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CTyankee

(68,160 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 10:56 AM Jul 2024

Can you die from dementia?

If so, how does it cause death to occur?

I'm asking because I am mourning the death of a wonderful man who developed dementia and after 18 days in the hospital passed away.

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Can you die from dementia? (Original Post) CTyankee Jul 2024 OP
Our experience Dave in VA Jul 2024 #1
Dementia can cause a decline in various ways that can be fatal. Ocelot II Jul 2024 #3
here is background for this post CTyankee Jul 2024 #2
It takes ( sad to say ) years to die from Alzheimer's demosincebirth Jul 2024 #4
My mother died from dementia. surfered Jul 2024 #5
Likely a secondary cause LiberalFighter Jul 2024 #6
My mom quit eating and went into a fetal position. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #7
One of my friends went to the nursing home murielm99 Jul 2024 #8
Exactly. My dad visited three times a day. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #10
From my family's experience... Eugene Jul 2024 #9
Sister died at 55 from LPPA (a type of dementia) Prairie_Seagull Jul 2024 #11
My grandmother succumbed to dementia this past April Niagara Jul 2024 #12
Yes CountAllVotes Jul 2024 #13
My mother-in-law deRien Jul 2024 #14
That is what happened to my late husband CountAllVotes Jul 2024 #15
We were given the deRien Jul 2024 #16
I left at the end CountAllVotes Jul 2024 #17
My sister-in-law deRien Jul 2024 #19
My late husband had 39 nieces and nephews & one living sister CountAllVotes Jul 2024 #20
Cats are deRien Jul 2024 #21
Exactly! CountAllVotes Jul 2024 #22
We were with my mom mgardener Jul 2024 #26
It was the saddest moment in my life CountAllVotes Jul 2024 #27
My father-in-law was at the end of his life. GumboYaYa Jul 2024 #28
It's called "terminal restlessness" TexasBushwhacker Jul 2024 #29
No one could tell me what was going on CountAllVotes Aug 2024 #30
You don't know what you can handle TexasBushwhacker Aug 2024 #31
It was my husband CountAllVotes Aug 2024 #32
Leading cause of death is aspiration pneumonia (brain damage leading to swallowing & other neuro-affective difficulties) hlthe2b Jul 2024 #18
i had 2 friends die from that horrible thing.:( AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #23
it's what killed AC/DC guitarist Malcolm Young Skittles Jul 2024 #24
Thank you. That is so helpful! CTyankee Jul 2024 #25
Yes agalisgv Aug 2024 #33
I believe the technical term is GusBob Aug 2024 #34

Dave in VA

(2,285 posts)
1. Our experience
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:02 AM
Jul 2024

is with both our mothers. They both had a medical power of attorney.

Wife's mother died as a result of her dementia by being unable to swallow and her POA stated no feeding tube if it was not going to result her her condition improving.

My mother died as a result of her anxiety getting so extreme that her heart rate was over 300 bpm and finally gave out.

Don't know if this helps in your situation.

Sorry for your loss.

Ocelot II

(130,439 posts)
3. Dementia can cause a decline in various ways that can be fatal.
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:13 AM
Jul 2024

Or, the dementia can be caused by an underlying condition such as strokes or other brain damage, that weaken the person and cause their death.

surfered

(13,349 posts)
5. My mother died from dementia.
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:14 AM
Jul 2024

From what I’ve read, it’s usually from some underlying condition the weakened body can no longer fend off.

murielm99

(32,971 posts)
8. One of my friends went to the nursing home
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:55 AM
Jul 2024

every day to feed dinner to her sister. Her sister had forgotten how to feed herself. Eventually, the sister refused food and died.

Eugene

(67,092 posts)
9. From my family's experience...
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 11:55 AM
Jul 2024

Late stage dementia led to decline and loss of motor functions,
especially the ability to eat. Infection, pneumonia and sepsis followed.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,677 posts)
11. Sister died at 55 from LPPA (a type of dementia)
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 12:03 PM
Jul 2024

Logopenic primary progressive aphasia. I think dementia is a bit of a catch all. Her doc said she just gave up and stopped breathing. I believe he was just being kind I guess, but there it is.

Niagara

(11,809 posts)
12. My grandmother succumbed to dementia this past April
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 12:13 PM
Jul 2024

In the end, the progression of dementia causes swallowing difficulties, whether it's choking, aspiration, dehydration or malnutrition. Aspiration can cause pneumonia.


Even though my grandmother was already in a nursing facility, hospice came to check on her on the daily as she declined from dementia.


I'm sorry about your beloved loss, CTyankee.


deRien

(328 posts)
14. My mother-in-law
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 12:22 PM
Jul 2024

was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. It is my understanding that you loose the ability to do anything like read, do math, button/zip clothes, walk, eat, swallow, recognize family/friends because these are all things that you do automatically but are sequential. She fell and broke her hip which led to her death.

CountAllVotes

(22,210 posts)
15. That is what happened to my late husband
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 12:27 PM
Jul 2024

He was is bad shape and fell and broke his hip.

He couldn't have weighed more than 110 lbs. at that point as he couldn't eat or swallow; he had no appetite.

The greedy doctors decided to operate on the broken hip and when he came to, he couldn't breathe or swallow.

It was off to hospice for $500/day until he died about a week later.

Hell of a way to go, that's all I can say.



deRien

(328 posts)
16. We were given the
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 12:31 PM
Jul 2024

choice of surgery. It was either sit in pain in a wheelchair or have surgery and be pushed down the dementia road. The hospital lost her teeth so she was unable to eat. It took about 7 weeks for her to pass away. Skeletal thin also. I'm sorry for your loss. It is so hard to watch and wait as a loved one passes.

CountAllVotes

(22,210 posts)
17. I left at the end
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 12:41 PM
Jul 2024

Hospice called and told me to come there ASAP.

So, off I went and there he was in a bed going up and and down, up and down non-stop.

I couldn't just sit there and watch that and he was out of it in the head. He had no idea I was there.

So, I left.

He died a few hours later.

What a hell I have been through since he died.


deRien

(328 posts)
19. My sister-in-law
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 12:59 PM
Jul 2024

spent a couple of hours with her mom then left. We got a call at 6:15 am that she had passed. She hadn't been conscious for a while but I think she was waiting for her daughter to come. Be kind to yourself ~ many times a person waits for someone to come or maybe in your case to leave. A hospice nurse told us about a woman who gathered all her family around her then told them to go have dinner. She died shortly after they left. I'm so sorry that you are living in "hell" since he passed. Do you have someone to share your feelings with? Or grieve counseling?

CountAllVotes

(22,210 posts)
20. My late husband had 39 nieces and nephews & one living sister
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 01:07 PM
Jul 2024

None of them did jack shit.

Despicable lot.

I learned.

Now the Area One on Aging is trying to get me to take in a roommate, something I am not keen on at all.

I prefer been a cat lady.



CountAllVotes

(22,210 posts)
22. Exactly!
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 01:39 PM
Jul 2024

You never know who you will end up with and it isn't easy to get rid of one of them.

I was not a good roommate to have in my college years, I know that much!

mgardener

(2,349 posts)
26. We were with my mom
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 08:40 PM
Jul 2024

For a day and a half leaving for meals.
She appeared stable BP etc so we went home to sleep and return the next day.

Just gotten in bed when we got the call that she had died.
Went back into NYC to say goodbye.
The Dr told us she had seen it before where people wait to be alone to die.
I was sad that she died alone, but we did what we thought was best at the time.

I am so sorry.

CountAllVotes

(22,210 posts)
27. It was the saddest moment in my life
Wed Jul 31, 2024, 12:07 PM
Jul 2024

Last edited Wed Jul 31, 2024, 01:23 PM - Edit history (1)

I was not prepared for his death. He wasn't either.

It has left me alone with nothing for a 36 year marriage. I get $23 a month in food stamps, that is it.

Being I get more on Social Security than he did ($1201.00 a month!), that is what I still get. His extra $500 a month was a lot more helpful than I realized it was.

I'm a mess and its been 26+ months since he died.

Incidents that occurred have a way of burning scars into your brain that never heal.

He'd been sick for many years in hindsight. It was easier to turn a blind eye to the situation because he was in total denial.

I don't know how I lived through it really.

I have the house still but I don't know if I'll be able to hang-on to it being my income is so low and I got into a bad car accident last year in Sept. which totaled my car out.

I could find no help with transportation needs so I bought a used car and the dealer that sold it to me lied and misrepresented it. It was in two head on collisions, the first of which totaled it out and they patched it up and sold it to someone else that got into a second head-on collision. Needless to say, the car is a nightmare and I am in a lawsuit because of it. The payments are over $400 a month. Ugh.

I don't know what I will do as I burned through a lot of money from 2022 ----> present.

Thank you for your kind words. They mean a lot to me.

Hang-in there yourself!

GumboYaYa

(6,001 posts)
28. My father-in-law was at the end of his life.
Wed Jul 31, 2024, 02:07 PM
Jul 2024

He had dementia and a bunch of other health issues. We were visiting. He tapped my wife on the hand and said, it is time for you to go. He died within an hour after we left.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,196 posts)
29. It's called "terminal restlessness"
Wed Jul 31, 2024, 11:12 PM
Jul 2024

It's like the body's last surge of energy, tryin myg to survive. It's very common and hard to witness.

CountAllVotes

(22,210 posts)
30. No one could tell me what was going on
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:16 AM
Aug 2024

It was so confusing.

No one there could tell me a thing about what happened.

Was there a name for this?

It was like watching someone doing sit-ups really fast.

It was horrible.

I'm pretty sure he had no idea I was there as in the end he was almost deaf and had some eye sight left in one eye.

It has left me behind as a devastated mess as I was not prepared for any of it, much less this part at the end.

Was I wrong to opt to just get up and leave like I did?

I don't know and I'll never know.

Thank you btw.


TexasBushwhacker

(21,196 posts)
31. You don't know what you can handle
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:55 PM
Aug 2024

until you have to handle it. Shame on the hospital/hospice workers for not telling you what was going on. My mother had it about 2 days before she died. Her cancer was in her bones and brain, but she was still trying to get out of bed even through she risked fracturing her bones. Fortunately, I knew what it was. They could have sedated your dad.

CountAllVotes

(22,210 posts)
32. It was my husband
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 03:37 PM
Aug 2024

He was 20 years older than I am, 85 years old when he died. He had tried to escape from that god awful place. I asked them why they did not sedate him! They said they did!

Yeah right!

They offered me grief counseling for a brief time but they didn't seem to know anything either.

They got their $500 a day out of me and I've never had anything else to do with this place.

I'm sorry to read about your dear mother. It sounds like you've been through hell too.

hlthe2b

(113,842 posts)
18. Leading cause of death is aspiration pneumonia (brain damage leading to swallowing & other neuro-affective difficulties)
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 12:53 PM
Jul 2024

Blood clots (pulmonary emboli), sepsis (secondary to aspiration pneumonia, untreated/poorly treated bed sores or urinary tract infections, etc.), and fatal falls (head trauma/subdural hematomas) are also commonly associated causes of death.

Alzheimer's is, after all a leading cause of brain damage in the elderly. So its effects also depend on the areas in which leading damage occurs. Someone upstream mentioned overwhelming "stress" leading to uncontrolled heart rates in excess of 300 bpm. While I don't doubt that the patient was highly agitated, the (tachycardia) run of rapid heart rate most likely occurred as a result of damage to the autonomic nervous system and its feedback regulatory loops or an increase in specific neurochemicals--often independent of major primary heart disease.

GusBob

(8,245 posts)
34. I believe the technical term is
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 03:54 PM
Aug 2024

"failure to thrive"

that's what they put on my dad's death certificate

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