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[Para722]

1. 911

Call an ambulance and have her taken to the ER.
Stop asking for money and get her to the ER
A GLF (ground level fall is a very serious thing and shouldn’t be used as a prop to raise cash for what’s basically lunch money
Take your mom to the ER Medicare will cover the 911 ambulance

[MotownPgh]

6. Has someone tracked this poster down?

This woman needs to be checked on. Mainly to see if she's real.

[JoseBalow]

28. Yes, he shared his address with us yesterday

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182107971#post61

He would have us believe he is living in squalor.

Map shows he is within a short walk to public transportation, with plenty of shopping and services nearby.

Everything he claims is bullshit, and he never provides proof of his claims.

[ForgedCrank]

52. I think

it's worse than that. I think this is actually real. I think he refuses to get a job and is using up her already tight benefits that are designed to help support only one person. As a result, she is living her days short on food and medical care because of it. Why? Because he'll go to any lengths to avoid getting a damned job and pulling his own weight. I can't believe he has the stones to keep this up. Giving him anything at this point is nothing more than enabling him and hurting her.

[Basso8vb]

2. Get her to the hospital NOW!

My 83 year old uncle died on Friday due to a fall.

Please take her in.

[mvd]

3. She's been to one - no break fortunately

Didn’t hit her head. This is a normal doctor’s appointment but she really needs a follow up.

[JoseBalow]

30. Alleged mom needs Dr; Spends all day online trying to scam $50

Pathetic

[XanaDUer2]

4. Call 911!

She could be in danger!

[quaint]

5. Begging season but I have l relatives and friends with great needs who don't ask.

[mvd]

7. She's doing better with the arm, but..

Still hasn’t felt well. Really should go. I don’t mean to beg. I included the picture people wanted and will do that when I can.

[XanaDUer2]

8. But didn't she break her wrist last fall?

She really needs to be seen even if you think she didn't hit her head.

[debm55]

10. Matt , please take your mom to the hospital , not to a doctor. She needs complete testing . Medicare will pay.

[mvd]

11. Hi Deb - she has been to one

The fall happened a week ago and she’s been treated for it. Would be very irresponsible if I let it go. I appreciate your concern.

[debm55]

12. She may have to do complete blood work and xrays done. That may take a day or twol

[mvd]

13. I'll take care of her, Deb

A mom is such a special thing. How are you and Rich doing?

[Harker]

9. 1-800-734-2020

That's the elder abuse/neglect hotline for your county.

Would you like me to call for you?

[JoseBalow]

32. REPORT ONLINE FRAUD AND/OR ELDER ABUSE HERE:

Report online fraud and/or elder abuse here:

Royersford, Pa Police Department

610-948-3305
Chief of Police: Scot Fennelly – [e-mail]
Sergeant: David Taylor – [e-mail]

PA Office of Attorney General

717-787-3391
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/contact/

Montgomery County Sheriff's Office

610-278-3331
https://www.montgomerycountypa.gov/397/Sheriffs-Office

Or contact the FBI at [phone], or online at www.fbi.gov or tips.fbi.gov

[Harker]

35. Thanks for the contacts...

If there's a continuation of this, the County Sheriff might be able to make a wellness check.

[JoseBalow]

36. He posted the alleged address here yesterday:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182107971#post61

Here is the listing. Only posting personal info since I gave permission for this to be locked:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/317-Fairfield-Cir-S-Royersford-PA-19468/104373065_zpid/

Although the place looks empty to me, so who knows

[Harker]

37. Yeah, I had that previously, his name, his mother's name.

I'll have to do some more digging to make a proper call, if needed.

[JoseBalow]

40. I saw another forum that has multiple threads discussing his DU scamming

Needless to say, it makes him (and us) look pretty pathetic. He's a stain on this community.

[Harker]

41. I tried using the alert button, but it's not allowing me to report this as being

outside the forum's stated purpose. Specifically, there's a "no drama" statement.

And these ongoing lounge-a-thons are definitely drama.

[JoseBalow]

45. Forum hosts don't seem to care

Also not "relaxing," "friendly," or "welcoming" to watch our generous and vulnerable members being taken advantage of and solicited with lies. I have alerted all his scam threads, they don't seem to care. Maybe if more people alerted it would convince them that these campaigns are not welcome here.

[Harker]

49. I'll keep trying.

If I had a reasonable doubt about this being a scam, I would not have piped up about it, or monitored the saga.

As it is, the the inconsistencies in the storyline are telling, and like you, I don't like seeing good, kind DUers chucking their money into the black hole that is mvd.

Ah, just remembered his last name.

[Mike 03]

58. I really appreciate all of those who spoke up. I was midway through

writing a DM to the OP asking if he accepted PayPal when I decided to just check some of his earlier posts and found long thread from two days ago where DUers were cautioning about these types of appeals. And some very good questions were asked in the replies section that didn't seem to have reasonable answers.

So it did help me probably make a better decision. I can't believe I've been at DU so long and hadn't seen this type of activity before--but then I mostly am in the GD and Breaking News forums.

[Harker]

66. I'm pleased that you took a closer look, Mike 03.

It's in our nature to want to help, but not all who ask are deserving.

[Fla Dem]

54. That certainly raised my antenna. Not a stitch of furniture in the houe. Bathroom empty.

Even in hard times they would have the furniture they've had for years. The last time this house was sold was March 2014, 10 years ago. Certainly they've not been living w/o furniture for 10 years.

So I assumed that was just a bogus listing he plucked from Zillow and said it was his home.

[JoseBalow]

61. A simple internet search

turns up records showing the owner with his same last name.

But you're right, it's an empty house in clean condition. Yet his last scam was begging for money to clean it.

Lies, lies, and more lies.

Nothing but lies from this scammer. I hate to see the good people here keep falling for his lies.

[bif]

14. Again with the begging?

[mvd]

15. I'm surprised some only see this as begging

I would never say that to people. Especially at holiday season.

[JoseBalow]

26. How can you be surprised? Your bullshit has been called out dozens of times

Your act is stale and pathetic, just give it up already. Stop posting, delete your account, and give up this ongoing scam.

All you do is dream up of ways to prey on the generosity and good nature of the kind people here. Many of whom are elderly and vulnerable to manipulation by seasoned scammers like you.

I am tempted to contact law enforcement to report your fraud and scamming.

I can't believe that DU allows this to continue.

[ForgedCrank]

59. That's because

it is begging. It's not the same as going through "A" hard time because of circumstances. You are both the creator and cultivator of this disaster, and your elderly mother is the ultimate victim because of it. You've been doing this for years, and I'd bet money you are running this same begging campaign on other sites as well. Why? Because you won't man up and get a job.
Have you no shame?

[anciano]

17. Yep, 2nd time this week.....

the old rinse and repeat routine.

[JoseBalow]

25. He'll be back again for his Xmas/New Years scam

His bullshit is as predictable as the tide.

[madibella]

16. It sounds like your mom is in danger. You posted a link to your address and from what I'm reading here

Medicaid will pay for ambulance and ER.
Should an ambulance be summoned for her care? That would take care of the need for $50.
She’ll be fed at the hospital too I would imagine.

[bif]

18. It looks like you're more interested in getting some money

Than actually doing the right thing. Folks on here have told you what to do, but you seem to be ignoring their advice.

[mvd]

19. What am I ignoring?

She’s been to the ER and treated. The fall happened a week ago. There isn’t one bit of advice here I have ignored..

Some people on the thread I can’t see because they repeatedly attack me.

[Harker]

21. You have repeatedly ignored the voluminous suggestions on how to take care of it.

If you're poor and in need, there are government agencies at all levels that can be called upon.

I'm one step from calling your county authorities tip line with your name and address.

If you truly need help, get it yourself, and get it properly.

[JoseBalow]

24. Oh you see it all, you just pretend to ignore it

[ForgedCrank]

65. She wouldn't

have an open wound had she been treated properly. My father refuses to sit still and be careful, he's always falling off of a tractor or something ridiculous. And with the very thin skin as is common in the elderly, he gets these all of the time. I know what treating it looks like. Infection is coming for your mother who deserves so much better. What is happening to her right now is a direct result of what YOU are doing, which is soaking up her monthly benefits and refusing to work. You need to think about that mister.
You fix this by getting a job and feeding yourself, and by picking up your share of the utilities etc. and don't tell us how you will think about it. Get off your hind end, and do it.

[anciano]

20. ***Request Denied***

not "verifiably necessary".

Happy Holidays 🎄

[XanaDUer2]

22. Lord, that is a nasty gash

Stitches?

[JoseBalow]

23. Same scam as always - take your bullshit somewhere else

You've scammed over $12,000 from this community with your lies and bullshit begging stories. I wish someone would post a list of scam threads you've posted over the years.

You posted a link yesterday https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182107971#post61 to the Zillow listing that shows a $525,000 house that is clean and empty and in good condition, but you claim you desperately need money to clean it. Do you even live there?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/317-Fairfield-Cir-S-Royersford-PA-19468/104373065_zpid/

Now you post this pic claiming to be your alleged mom's injured arm, which proves nothing - did you find it on the internet? It's not even dated with a time stamp. Where is the pic of the damaged airbeds you claimed yesterday? Always a different story and a different "emergency" with you.

Same pattern of bullshit as always. You will shortly delete this message to shut any further discussion or criticism.

I am certain you will be back with more bullshit before the "holiday giving season" is done. Pathetic.

Your welcome is worn out here. I can't believe that DU allows you to scam this community like this.

[WhiteTara]

27. during my partner's recent fall, he broke his neck

and leg. He didn't realize it at first and I didn't take him to the hospital for two days. He could have been paralyzed from the neck down. Call 911 and have her taken to the hospital today.

BTW, if your mother were indeed low income, her SSA would arrive on the 3rd of each month, not the last week of the month. Just saying.

[mvd]

29. It comes by date of birth

My dad was born in September so we get it 4th Wednesday.

She has been to the hospital as it could not be ignored

[PennRalphie]

33. You keep saying "we"

That social security is your mother’s. It’s not yours. It’s hers. It’s all hers.

Do you steal her money? Does she have a bank account? In the past you’ve talked about “overdrafts” and you changed banks. That check is not yours. Your mother will have that direct deposited into HER account. Not yours. Unless you have a joint account.

The more you post, the more tangled it gets.

[PennRalphie]

31. Your mother's "injury"

Was so severe that yesterday, when you begged for $300, you never mentioned it. Do you remember that? It was all about the broken waterbed.

The picture you posted is a rather fresh wound. Hospitals would not allow your starving, sleepless, elderly mother to be discharged with a wound like that. Also, you do not need to accompany your mother to any doctor or hospital. I’m sure all of your neighbors (and there are plenty in that HOA) would gladly transport your mother to get medical care. Maybe it’s you they won’t transport. Who knows.

Anyhow, mvd, people here are tired of your stories. At this point, they are just that. Stories. I’m sure you beg for money elsewhere. Maybe what works on those websites just won’t work here.

If even 1% of what you post here is true, your mother is in danger. Your non existent social worker would help. So would your non existent lawyer.

[debm55]

34. But PennRalphie. We are caught between a rock and a hard place. We can;t let the mother suffer with that wound. Also my

bills come after the blood work. I never need money before Hospitals just need to see the cards. They bill it after. I haven't read it but maybe it for transportation. I don't know.Mom has open wound and that is not good. I don't know what to think.

[PennRalphie]

38. You live in PA like me

The PA lottery funds public transportation for seniors at no cost. There is also a shared ride program where the senior pays no more than 15% of the fare. PA pays the rest.

He know all of that, debm. I know you have a good heart, but if anything he’s said is true, HE is neglecting his own mother. One phone call and his mother goes to her doctor for a few dollars. Not a $50 uber ride. Why is he always accompanying her? So she can’t tell hospital personnel how she’s neglected?

Anytime he’s questioned on anything, he does the pretend ignore or he suddenly deletes the thread. When you constantly beg for money, and the reason changes daily, those handing over money deserve the truth.

[debm55]

44. Yes I live south of Pittsburgh. I know there is an ASESS program here. The story is very confusing to me PennRalphie. I

have decided not to read the posts for money. Thank you ,

[XanaDUer2]

39. Just left dr

I had zero copay met my deductible. Medicare

[debm55]

46. I have both and never have to pay. Even Rich's beam radiation was totally covered. Call me confused. on his Mom's

situation. The picture triggered me, I will not read or post on this thread again,

[JoseBalow]

42. If true, enabling his neglect doesn't help

I don't believe a single word he says, but if it were true, reinforcing his begging would only prevent the alleged mom from getting the actual proper care she would need.

The best thing anyone here could do is ignore his scams and hopefully he'll give up preying on your good nature, and that of this community. Don't encourage him.

DU should ban him, or at the least he should be banned from running scams in the Lounge.

[debm55]

48. thank you for you words of advice. I didn't mean to be an enabler. I will not post of the thread again. The picture

upset me. I guess it was supposed to.

[JoseBalow]

69. You are a kind and generous person, Deb

Scammers like him count on people like you to prey on.

And don't be upset, that picture is probably fake or of someone else, from who knows where or when.

Your best bet would be to put him on ignore and not give him another thought. Focus on making the Lounge a better place, as you always do.

[Lifeafter70]

68. I have serious doubts on who this poster really is.

The account was created in the very early days of DU. I thought poster was about 40 years old. If that is true he would have been in his teens when he created this account.
I suspect he is not the original account holder. It would be interesting to view post prior to the money request post.

[Raven]

43. I have been following these posts for months and this is what I have concluded: MVD is

sitting behind his computer everyday making money from well-meaning people on multiple SM sites. If he has a mother, she is perfectly well and he lives in a high end home. He has his grift down to a science and could teach TSF some new tricks. Put this person on IGNORE and be done with him.

[mvd]

47. Completely wrong

Really awful to be so wrong about me. I am not here making stuff up. Anyone want proof? I’ll give it no problem.

[Raven]

50. Go ahead, post it.

[Harker]

51. If you can offer proof, you can contact social services.

They'll be delighted to help.

[Raven]

53. Right! He's probably had the same problem with social services...he's a "frequent flyer" who won't

help himself or who won't provide proof.

[Harker]

63. I think that's a safe assessment. n/t

[Scrivener7]

55. Jose Balow has asked for proof multiple times. Does that not count?

He's offered you large amounts of money if you provide any proof.

[XanaDUer2]

57. At least show the broken airbeds

Thats been storied for quite a while.

[JoseBalow]

56. Where are the pics of the damaged airbeds?

Just more lies. You will delete the OP to stop discussion before you ever provide any real proof of anything, just like you always do. Frankly I am surprised you haven't deleted this one yet. Not that you won't be back again with another story in a week or two, we can certainly count on that. But never ever with any real proof.

I offered you $500 if you could prove a single thing you claimed. You chose to kill that thread and duck and run instead. That is proof that you are a scammer.

[Raven]

60. And I think he's a very wealthy scammer. n/t

[JoseBalow]

62. He has scammed MORE than $12,000 from DU members

Disgusting

[bif]

64. Why hasn't he been banned?

I don't get it!

[happybird]

67. Alerted on the OP

Hopefully something can be done to stop this bs. It seems there are always new DUers who are unaware of this ongoing scam and send money.

[Harker]

71. Ah! Finally got my alert button to function, and followed suit. n/t

[JoseBalow]

70. That's a great question, ask admins or the forum hosts.

[madibella]

72. OMG something just occurred to me. This person hasn't done any of the steps that have been offered to him

because he doesn’t exist in the realm of a person who would benefit from the advice. In other words, everyone is always asking why he doesn’t take any of the steps that are offered to him. And the reason perhaps that he doesn’t take any of those steps is because help isn’t available to the actual person that he is, not the person that he purports to be.

God that would be awful if this person is doing that. I hope I’m wrong, but it just hit me that that could be the case.

[mvd]

73. Ok I'm deleting

Lots of smearing, slander and misinformation. No one has come to me with any questions. They’d rather make up stuff here. If anyone still wants to send or ask questions, PLEASE PM me.