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Jilly_in_VA

(14,085 posts)
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:05 PM Jan 12

Grammatical pet peeves

There are some things that just grind my gears, yet they are so common, even in journalism, that they are almost standard today. I can't really tell you which is my no. 1, so I'll just list them in no particular order.

1. Could of, would of, should of. NO! It's could HAVE, would HAVE, should HAVE! I learned this in fourth grade, FFS!!! Where were you? This is just lazy.

2. "Here's what" to know. Grrr. Unnecessary verbiage, and silly besides. Either "What to know", which makes perfect sense and is concise and to the point, or "This is what to know," which is grammatically correct but unnecessary verbiage. "Here's what" is lazy.

3. What I call the "sportscaster glitch" because that's where I hear it most often, and usually (forgive me) from male sportscasters. The women don't seem to do it as much. "He ran such and such, did Lawrence," is my imperfect example, but anyone who's listened to or watched football or basketball has heard this absolutely cringey thing repeatedly.

Okay, what are yours? This is my diversionary tactic on a Monday morning.

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Grammatical pet peeves (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Jan 12 OP
To play "Outstanding" justaprogressive Jan 12 #1
Asking "Right?" following every other statement. Frasier Balzov Jan 12 #2
Diversion Greatly Appreciated! The Roux Comes First Jan 12 #3
To quote Calvin and Hobbes Jilly_in_VA Jan 12 #4
The journalism problem comes from fewer and fewer actual editors on the job... Wounded Bear Jan 12 #20
I Wholly Agree About the Underemployment of Those Trained in Correct Use of the Language in Print The Roux Comes First Jan 12 #37
I have never known a spell checker that knew better than I on common text... Wounded Bear Jan 13 #41
All of the... 2naSalit Jan 12 #5
apostrophes used to make a plural yellow dahlia Jan 12 #32
"Irregardless" drives me insane as does your #1 re: "Of" instead of "have". LoisB Jan 12 #6
Same here question everything Jan 12 #14
"Invite" used as a noun. Croney Jan 12 #7
I have an particular dislike for "impactful." I find it clunky and awkward. 3catwoman3 Jan 13 #55
Everything listed on the thread but lately, all the "Gamer" terms for everything: "Level Up," most hlthe2b Jan 12 #8
Using "I" instead of me as the object of a preposition. Thinking Diane on Cheers among many. efhmc Jan 12 #9
Great minds think alike! MIButterfly Jan 12 #11
It is odd that people mess this up so much. 3catwoman3 Jan 12 #24
With you. yellow dahlia Jan 12 #33
I have just recently become aware of "level up". I do not understand it at all. LoisB Jan 12 #16
People misusing "I" and "me." MIButterfly Jan 12 #10
Just reading those examples made me want to scream. efhmc Jan 12 #12
Nor do you hear anyone say, "Us had our picture taken." 3catwoman3 Jan 12 #25
How about that song "Me and Julio down by the schoolyard"? CTyankee Jan 13 #52
Improper use of between and among. Callalily Jan 12 #13
"Media" and "data" are plural nouns Rastapopoulos Jan 12 #15
I could care less. boonecreek Jan 12 #17
Then/than sorcrow Jan 12 #18
Nope. Sorry. Number 2 has led to two whole generation who think "What to know" is a question. Iggo Jan 12 #19
I'll throw in misuse of "lose" and "loose".... Wounded Bear Jan 12 #21
it is odd Skittles Jan 12 #30
In the Liberty Mutual "Limu Emu" commercials, Totally Tunsie Jan 12 #22
Sadly, that kind of twisted language makes good ad copy... Wounded Bear Jan 13 #42
"I" being turned into a possessive, as in John and I's vacation. Aauuugggghhhhh! 3catwoman3 Jan 12 #23
Ask as a noun. Grrr Blues Heron Jan 12 #26
I'm an author... Rizen Jan 12 #27
Incorrect apostrophes...it's.. it's surfered Jan 12 #28
Thank you! Examples: "Go Cub's!" "The Smith's" MIButterfly Jan 13 #47
"I SEEN" Skittles Jan 12 #29
Finger nails on the blackboard. yellow dahlia Jan 12 #34
I used to see it in work emails Skittles Jan 13 #38
Ugh! yellow dahlia Jan 13 #50
OH and using CAUSE instead of BECAUSE Skittles Jan 13 #53
I feel using real sentence structure and words that mean something helps keep us sharp. yellow dahlia Jan 13 #54
"What do you got?", or "what have you got?"... Enter stage left Jan 12 #31
Blame Gibbs... Wounded Bear Jan 13 #43
AnywayS. I hear it on tv often, and I correct the person. yellow dahlia Jan 12 #35
"It was like, really funny!" bif Jan 12 #36
I am a bit of a grammar freak. Jeebo Jan 13 #39
Now you're getting into regionalisms, though Jilly_in_VA Jan 13 #40
"regionalisms" are still incorrect Skittles Jan 13 #48
"Grammer" is a common misspelling Ptah Jan 13 #44
Nucular instead of Nuclear Talitha Jan 13 #45
Using "normal" to mean average GreatGazoo Jan 13 #46
Saying you're "filming" with your cell phone. Jeebo Jan 13 #49
Improper use of reflexive enid602 Jan 13 #51

justaprogressive

(6,594 posts)
1. To play "Outstanding"
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:16 PM
Jan 12

which would suggest that "Outstanding" is the name of a game!

Correct: to play Outstandingly

to play outstanding football

XXXX whose play is outstanding...

Adjectives are not adverbs!

Frasier Balzov

(4,943 posts)
2. Asking "Right?" following every other statement.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:21 PM
Jan 12

Not so much a grammatical error, more of a verbal crutch.

As though the speaker is desperately seeking unearned concurrence.

Once you notice it, you will begin to observe how pervasive a speech pattern this has become.

The Roux Comes First

(2,217 posts)
3. Diversion Greatly Appreciated!
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:22 PM
Jan 12

Several come to mind.

I never subscribed to the idea that "data" suddenly transformed into a singular noun. It's as if we suddenly moved wholesale to the metric system without even any real debate on the subject.

There are several less-common verbs that seem to be frequently cast recently as no longer having separate forms for various tenses. I'm struggling to think of the two or three I see every week or so, where the over-simplistic lazy approach of adding a suffix is commonly used now. The verb "slide" is not one, but it comes to mind I guess because at least one offender starts with "s." I have yet to see "slided" in use, but it would be the equivalent, with "slid" having been discarded.

And a more general "bone" is what seems like an overall deterioration in the quality of editing and proofreading in journalism. Onerous grammatical and even spelling errors feel rampant these days, even in headlines. Or is it just my growing curmudgeon?

Wounded Bear

(63,975 posts)
20. The journalism problem comes from fewer and fewer actual editors on the job...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 08:53 PM
Jan 12

Many articles are published directly by the author, all of whom should really know better, but apparently don't.

The Roux Comes First

(2,217 posts)
37. I Wholly Agree About the Underemployment of Those Trained in Correct Use of the Language in Print
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 11:22 PM
Jan 12

Most of the technically trained engineers and scientists I worked with for decades "knew" they were gifted with the language (look at all the education they had!) and tended to disrespect and even dodge proofers and editors (and rarely if ever even knew the difference), and greatly resented it when their foibles (not to mention their self-delusion!) were pointed out, often through multiple drafts.

A secondary point - never rely on built-in spell-check and other features if you care how you come across in print. Re-read your work before publishing. And then re-read it again. Of course that assumes you are a careful and thorough reader - often not a good assumption.

Wounded Bear

(63,975 posts)
41. I have never known a spell checker that knew better than I on common text...
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 10:33 AM
Jan 13

I check sometimes with unfamiliar words, but generally I turn off spell check and proof read myself.

2naSalit

(100,969 posts)
5. All of the...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:49 PM
Jan 12

Peeves mentioned above plus misplaced apostrophes!

And the inability to know the difference between then and than.

That's all I can think of at the moment. Disclaimer though, sometimes I misused words and spelling for expression in some contexts.

Croney

(4,994 posts)
7. "Invite" used as a noun.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:57 PM
Jan 12

Yes, I know it's accepted usage now. I just don't like it. Also, "impact" as a verb. Same reason.

3catwoman3

(28,888 posts)
55. I have an particular dislike for "impactful." I find it clunky and awkward.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:10 PM
Jan 13
Influential works fine, and sounds so much more sophisticated.

hlthe2b

(113,196 posts)
8. Everything listed on the thread but lately, all the "Gamer" terms for everything: "Level Up," most
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:19 PM
Jan 12

recently. There is a woman who does a commercial for Shopify (I think) and it is constantly all about how she "leveled up" with her business this and on and on...That is where I have heard the term most recently (and constantly), but I know it is in use for other ads too--as well as among the talking heads in round-table discussions about anything but gaming.

Other than that, the constant use of "me and him/her/group etc." went somewhere or did something. Even those who should (seemingly) know better. Ditto the use of "ain't" when I know they know better and that is increasingly being used in ads. I don't mean when they are intentionally trying to make a point, but just use it.

I will add the mandatory qualifier that I have been known to make my share of grammatical errors as well as spelling mistakes (or typos). But, I don't make the most obvious ones (or at least not more than once if pointed out).

efhmc

(16,210 posts)
9. Using "I" instead of me as the object of a preposition. Thinking Diane on Cheers among many.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:30 PM
Jan 12

Use to holler at the TV every time she did it. Which was often: i.e."between you and I"

MIButterfly

(2,310 posts)
10. People misusing "I" and "me."
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:41 PM
Jan 12

Example: "He took a picture of my brother and I." You wouldn't say "He took a picture of I"; why would you say "He took a picture of my brother and I"? I know it's extremely common; I hear it all the time. I even see it written by professional writers, such as authors and journalists (in other words, people who should know better) and I don't understand it at all. Is it trendy? Grammar isn't supposed to be trendy.

Drives me straight up a wall.

And then they'll say "Me and my brother had our picture taken" instead of "My brother and I had our picture taken."

3catwoman3

(28,888 posts)
25. Nor do you hear anyone say, "Us had our picture taken."
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:54 PM
Jan 12

If you can get it right in the plural, why not in the singular.

Callalily

(15,325 posts)
13. Improper use of between and among.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:58 PM
Jan 12

Use "between" for two distinct items, concepts, or points in space/time

Use "among" as a preposition meaning in the middle of, included with, or in a group of three or more things/people, indicating a collective or indistinct relationship

Rastapopoulos

(734 posts)
15. "Media" and "data" are plural nouns
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:08 PM
Jan 12

and require plural verbs, to be strictly correct. I've pretty much given up on those, though.

sorcrow

(660 posts)
18. Then/than
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 03:53 PM
Jan 12

I worked with a PhD engineer who consistently exchanged them. He would have done better if he had just used one of them, and then he would be right at least half the time.

Regards,
Sorghum Crow

Iggo

(49,755 posts)
19. Nope. Sorry. Number 2 has led to two whole generation who think "What to know" is a question.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:03 PM
Jan 12

(See YouTube video titles for mountains of evidence.)

It’s a sentence fragment. The whole sentence is “Here is what to know.”

Wounded Bear

(63,975 posts)
21. I'll throw in misuse of "lose" and "loose"....
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 08:55 PM
Jan 12

Funny thing is, that it's usually "loose" being used wrong, and it's a letter longer.

Skittles

(170,197 posts)
30. it is odd
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:41 PM
Jan 12

goose is not pronounced GOOZE, moose is not pronounced MOOZE so I don't really understand why people get LOSE/LOOSE wrong so often

Totally Tunsie

(11,672 posts)
22. In the Liberty Mutual "Limu Emu" commercials,
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:11 PM
Jan 12

"You only pay for what you use."

NO!

You don't "only pay"...You pay for only what you use.

I wince each time I hear that misplaced usage.

3catwoman3

(28,888 posts)
23. "I" being turned into a possessive, as in John and I's vacation. Aauuugggghhhhh!
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:51 PM
Jan 12

And the plural possessive of guys is guys', NOT guyses! I've even heard Rachel Maddow use this. It makes me want to scream.

Blues Heron

(8,521 posts)
26. Ask as a noun. Grrr
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:18 PM
Jan 12

Also missing T’s but that’s more of a pronunciation peeve.

And of course “of course” instead of “your welcome”

MIButterfly

(2,310 posts)
47. Thank you! Examples: "Go Cub's!" "The Smith's"
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:51 AM
Jan 13

No, no, 1,000 times no.

Who the hell started that? I see it everywhere.



Enter stage left

(4,378 posts)
31. "What do you got?", or "what have you got?"...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:42 PM
Jan 12

It should be "what do you have?"

I hear it constantly on TV and normal conversation, it drives me crazy.

yellow dahlia

(5,204 posts)
35. AnywayS. I hear it on tv often, and I correct the person.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:47 PM
Jan 12

Disrespect as a verb. It may have become acceptable in the vernacular, but not by me.

Jeebo

(2,554 posts)
39. I am a bit of a grammar freak.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:19 AM
Jan 13

Last edited Tue Jan 13, 2026, 02:14 PM - Edit history (1)

I retired 11 years ago after 45 years in the newsroom of a morning newspaper. For some reason, some grammar errors don't really bother me, but there are quite a few that drive me up the wall. There is the difference between "lie" and "lay", for example. Many of my former co-workers don't get that. Ditto the difference between between "waiting for" and "waiting on". "Waiting on" is an active state; "waiting for" is a passive state. That's why your waitperson in your favorite restaurant is actively waiting on you, while you are sitting there passively waiting while the waitperson is filling your order. I have lots more, but no time to think of them now. Some have been noted in this thread by other posters, though.

-- Ron

On edit: Fixed misspelling, can't believe I did that. I worked as a proofreader for that newspaper, too, but that was 50+ years ago, and my aging eyes just can't spot typos like they used to.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,085 posts)
40. Now you're getting into regionalisms, though
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 07:18 AM
Jan 13

"Waiting on" is perfectly good Southern-speak, and I'm quite used to it, having heard perfectly genteel older folks use it for much of my life. It's like waiting "on line" which I never heard until I was exposed to New Yorkers in college, or a number of other regionalisms.

GreatGazoo

(4,520 posts)
46. Using "normal" to mean average
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 11:31 AM
Jan 13

Normal is a range. Average is a specific number.

And why is "wind chill" only applied when it is cold and "with the humidity" only applied when it is hot?

Jeebo

(2,554 posts)
49. Saying you're "filming" with your cell phone.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 04:01 PM
Jan 13

I always want to ask, "What kind of 'film' did you have in your cell phone? 8mm? 16mm? 32mm?" If you recorded the scene with your cell phone, you did not "film" it.

-- Ron

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