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And for our finale, Niyad, is this you???

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Another trip back to the '70s (Original Post)
True Dough
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some_of_us_are_sane
(3,480 posts)1. Ah.......... memories
It was a lifetime ago, but man..........it was 'a BLAST'!
niyad
(133,692 posts)2. Now how did you find that photo of me???
True Dough
(27,171 posts)3. EVERYTHING is on the internet!
Marie Marie
(11,456 posts)4. Far out and groovy.
Figarosmom
(12,967 posts)5. That little boy sure knew he looked cool.
Ha, JC can save America. I remember those posters. And Boney M German disco!
Emile
(43,042 posts)6. LOL he sure did.
True Dough
(27,171 posts)7. Boney M
was the 1970s Milli Vanilli. But that was some good music just the same!
jfz9580m
(17,709 posts)8. Reminds of one of Nicholas Carr's posts
(I used to love his blog and wait for new posts and then he joined Substack and somehow his posts are a bit blah now.)
https://www.roughtype.com/?p=9139
Rob Horning, in a new essay in Real Life, describes how he happened upon an online trove of snapshots taken in the 1980s. That was the last pre-internet decade, of course, and the faded, yellowing, flash-saturated shots might as well have been taken on a different planet. The people portrayed in them have a relationship to photography, and to media in general, that is alien to our own. The subjects usually know that they are being watched, writes Horning, but they cant imagine, even in theory, that it could be everyone watching.
It is as though who they were in general was more fixed and objective, less fluid and discursive. Though they are anonymous, they register more concretely as specific people, unpatterned by the grammar of gestures and looks that posting images to networks seems to impose.
Horning is entranced, and disoriented, by the pictures because he sees something that no longer exists: a gap between image and being. Before we began to construct ourselves as patterns of data to be consumed through media by a general audience, the image of a person, as, for instance, captured in a snapshot, and the person were still separate. The image and the self had not yet merged. This is what gives old photographs of people their poignancy and their power, as well as their strangeness. We know, as Horning emphasizes, that back then people were self-conscious they were aware of themselves as objects seen by others, and they composed their looks and behavior with viewers in mind but the scale of the audience, and hence of the performance, was entirely different. The people in these photographs were not yet digitized. Their existence was not yet mediated in the way ours is.
Its revealing that, before the arrival of the net, people didnt talk about authenticity as we do today. They didnt have to. They understood, implicitly, that there was something solid behind whatever show they might put on for public consumption. The show was not everything. The anxiety of the deep fake had not yet taken hold of the subconscious. The reason we talk so much about authenticity now is because authenticity is no longer available to us. At best, we simulate authenticity: we imbue our deep fakeness with the qualities that people associate with the authentic. We assemble a self that fits the pattern of authenticity, and the ever-present audience applauds the pattern as authentic. The likes roll in, the views accumulate. Our production is validated. If were lucky, we rise to the level of influencer. What is an influencer but the perfection of the deep-fake self?
Horning is entranced, and disoriented, by the pictures because he sees something that no longer exists: a gap between image and being. Before we began to construct ourselves as patterns of data to be consumed through media by a general audience, the image of a person, as, for instance, captured in a snapshot, and the person were still separate. The image and the self had not yet merged. This is what gives old photographs of people their poignancy and their power, as well as their strangeness. We know, as Horning emphasizes, that back then people were self-conscious they were aware of themselves as objects seen by others, and they composed their looks and behavior with viewers in mind but the scale of the audience, and hence of the performance, was entirely different. The people in these photographs were not yet digitized. Their existence was not yet mediated in the way ours is.
Its revealing that, before the arrival of the net, people didnt talk about authenticity as we do today. They didnt have to. They understood, implicitly, that there was something solid behind whatever show they might put on for public consumption. The show was not everything. The anxiety of the deep fake had not yet taken hold of the subconscious. The reason we talk so much about authenticity now is because authenticity is no longer available to us. At best, we simulate authenticity: we imbue our deep fakeness with the qualities that people associate with the authentic. We assemble a self that fits the pattern of authenticity, and the ever-present audience applauds the pattern as authentic. The likes roll in, the views accumulate. Our production is validated. If were lucky, we rise to the level of influencer. What is an influencer but the perfection of the deep-fake self?
That site in that article is cool. And as he puts it disorienting. Nostalgia is in the air these days.
Bengus81
(10,320 posts)9. I had a brand new 73 Cutlass Supreme. Very nice and sporty looking
$5200 list if I remember right. Two door,black,black interior,black vinyl roof and tons of options including air shocks.
The AC in that thing would freeze your azzz off even years later.
malthaussen
(18,606 posts)10. That top pic must be very late 70's, judging from the prices.
Or else Pink was gently gouging his customers.
-- Mal