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Niagara

(12,397 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 05:54 PM Jun 4

Is this a recipe box?

I'm probably asking in the wrong area but I'm super curious. Google AI image search is telling me it's a 19th-century Italian wooden puzzle box.



The top:




Inside: The first wooden slate is removable, the second wooden slate doesn't really move. I don't want to force it.





The bottom:


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Is this a recipe box? (Original Post) Niagara Jun 4 OP
I thought a puzzle box had some hidden compartments that were unnoticeable bucolic_frolic Jun 4 #1
It's a recent purchase. I bought it because I thought it was a recipe box Niagara Jun 4 #3
I think it is likely a recipe box SheltieLover Jun 4 #6
Thank you, SheltieLover Niagara Jun 4 #8
Those cutouts are so you can grsb whatever you have in there with your fingers. Figarosmom Jun 4 #13
Niagara, pull out the removable slat... LuckyCharms Jun 4 #2
I pulled out the removable slat Niagara Jun 4 #4
"I paid for it, I promise" LuckyCharms Jun 4 #5
lol Niagara Jun 4 #9
Hahaha! LuckyCharms Jun 4 #10
I would think a recipe box would have more divisions. Whatever it is, it's LoisB Jun 4 #7
I'm still uncertain. I've never seen anything like it before, LoisB Niagara Jun 4 #11
Protein, sides and desserts. marble falls Jun 5 #27
Could be recipe Figarosmom Jun 4 #12
Is it bigger than a bread box? Marthe48 Jun 4 #14
It's about the same size as a recipe box Niagara Jun 4 #17
When American servicemen returned home after WWII Marthe48 Jun 4 #20
Interesting history here, Marthe Niagara Jun 5 #22
well it has no resemblance to the green metal one my mother unceremoniouy bobalew Jun 4 #15
We won't drop anything on your head while bathing you in the kitchen sink, bobalew Niagara Jun 4 #18
'Splains everything. marble falls Jun 5 #28
No expert, but recipe box makes sense. Wonder if it was brought home in WWII? Wounded Bear Jun 4 #16
You're input on the WWII timeline is helpful, Wounded Bear Niagara Jun 4 #19
I know nothing about recipe boxes True Dough Jun 5 #21
Thank you, True Niagara Jun 5 #23
There can be no doubt about it, Niagara True Dough Jun 5 #24
You must be our DU oracle, True Niagara Jun 5 #25
Not exactly. True Dough Jun 5 #34
What big fangs you have Niagara Jun 5 #36
Hope it wasn't this one: True Dough Jun 5 #37
Not the one lol Niagara Jun 5 #39
I'm super tired today so please bear with me Niagara Jun 5 #41
That looks... True Dough Jun 5 #42
Yes Niagara Jun 5 #43
It says "che sara sara" which is the correct Italian spelling of the phrase Wiz Imp Jun 5 #38
If this is a recipe box, I'm betting the nude chef left frying bacon to others. ... marble falls Jun 5 #26
Oh you! Niagara Jun 5 #30
Writing "Che sara sara what shall be shall be" Bluestocking Jun 5 #29
A three sectional wooden box is often used to hold momentous Bluestocking Jun 5 #31
Thank you for that info, Bluestocking Niagara Jun 5 #32
Does the box have residual scent Bluestocking Jun 5 #33
My nose says no Niagara Jun 5 #35
Etymology: che sara sara Donkees Jun 5 #40

bucolic_frolic

(56,300 posts)
1. I thought a puzzle box had some hidden compartments that were unnoticeable
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 06:02 PM
Jun 4

unless you knew where to look, or what to shift. Wonder that the circular cutouts are for. Did something lock in place there.

The inlay on the lid looks Italian, typical Venetian with lacquer over.

Niagara

(12,397 posts)
3. It's a recent purchase. I bought it because I thought it was a recipe box
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 06:09 PM
Jun 4

Vintage recipe boxes are so overpriced on Ebay and Poshmark.

It does have a tiny keyhole in the front but it didn't come with a key.

I've never seen a picture type recipe box. I'm not really sure what it is.

Figarosmom

(14,617 posts)
13. Those cutouts are so you can grsb whatever you have in there with your fingers.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:58 PM
Jun 4

Especially useful when cards are in there rather tightly. The cutouts allow you to get a finger hold further down on the paper or card instead of just the edge.

LuckyCharms

(23,378 posts)
2. Niagara, pull out the removable slat...
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 06:08 PM
Jun 4

and see if the bottom slides to the right or the left.

That's how those old puzzle boxes were designed, if that is indeed a puzzle box.

To me, that looks like a regular box that might have originated in Asia.

Unless you stole it from some Italian, which knowing you, you did

Niagara

(12,397 posts)
4. I pulled out the removable slat
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 06:15 PM
Jun 4

The bottom doesn't slide at all.

The bottom reads Pompei (that's how it's spelled) 1943 so I believe it's Italian.

I paid for it, I promise that I didn't steal it, Lucky! lol

LoisB

(13,742 posts)
7. I would think a recipe box would have more divisions. Whatever it is, it's
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 06:32 PM
Jun 4

definitely beautiful.

Niagara

(12,397 posts)
11. I'm still uncertain. I've never seen anything like it before, LoisB
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:24 PM
Jun 4

The wooden recipe box that I've had for the last 30 years is falling apart but I bought it from the Dollar General.

Thank you!

Figarosmom

(14,617 posts)
12. Could be recipe
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:55 PM
Jun 4

Or even a place to put bills in. One compartment foe the bills as they come in. Another for paid bills. And another for stamps and envelopes. Use it for a recipe box since that's what you bought it for. What will be, will be.😊

Marthe48

(23,735 posts)
14. Is it bigger than a bread box?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:27 PM
Jun 4


It looks like the hinges are newer than the latch. What do you think?

It's unusual. The design reminds me of the art from Italian frescoes.

Very nice!

Niagara

(12,397 posts)
17. It's about the same size as a recipe box
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:46 PM
Jun 4

It's about 6.5" by 4". It's possible the hinges are newer. Some people have the knack for repairing items.



I definitely think it's Italian.

I found Italian tea caddies but what I found online is they generally have two separate squares inside the box.

Then I found Italian stamp boxes and Italian document boxes.

I've never seen anything like it. I've been admiring it quite a bit today!

Marthe48

(23,735 posts)
20. When American servicemen returned home after WWII
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:06 PM
Jun 4

they brought home food ideas from places they had been stationed. Soldiers stationed in the Pacific arena brought home the idea of tikis and Polynesian food. We still have popular tiki bars in larger cities. The tableware is still pretty collectible. As for the European theater, those solders brought back with them, food like pasta and pizza! Outside of Italian homes, traditional Italian food was rarely eaten. By the 1950s, spaghetti was considered a romantic meal, and Chianti bottles in their wicker cases graced many homes. With every new thing, along came home decor that complimented the new found love for Italian cooking, and other things. So it makes sense that your recipe box is 40s era and well loved. Now, your turn

People have been using recipe boxes since the 1920s, and they have their own interesting history, even if not entirely romantic.



Niagara

(12,397 posts)
22. Interesting history here, Marthe
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:47 AM
Jun 5

This is my 30 year old recipe box from the Dollar General store.

It's now falling apart and I recently put it through a coffee maker accident which didn't help it at all.





bobalew

(500 posts)
15. well it has no resemblance to the green metal one my mother unceremoniouy
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:34 PM
Jun 4

dropped on my head while bathing me in the kitchen sink, when I was an infant.....

Wounded Bear

(64,824 posts)
16. No expert, but recipe box makes sense. Wonder if it was brought home in WWII?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:37 PM
Jun 4

Pompeii 1943 would fit the timeline for a young GI picking souvenirs out of the rubble or buying knick knacks from distressed locals in Italy. We went into Southern Italy at Salerno in Fall of 1943 about 30 miles from Pompeii. The artwork looks Roman to me.

They misspelled 'Que sera sera' as well.

Niagara

(12,397 posts)
19. You're input on the WWII timeline is helpful, Wounded Bear
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:59 PM
Jun 4

I certainly believe it's Italian.

I had my other half look at it and he said it was a poem or a song that he barely remembers. I did some digging on the internet. I just haven't told him yet that I found the Doris Day song. The lyrics aren't correct either. It's suppose to be "Whatever Will Be, Will Be".

One day I need an appraiser to come to my house and help me estimate and indentify my treasures!

True Dough

(27,637 posts)
21. I know nothing about recipe boxes
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:05 AM
Jun 5

But the writing underneath, is it a deliberate play on Que Sera Sera, I wonder? Looks to me like Che Sara Sara.

Niagara

(12,397 posts)
23. Thank you, True
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:51 AM
Jun 5

There's a bunch of writing errors on the bottom. It's suppose to be:


Que Sera Sera

Whatever Will Be, Will Be


Pompeii isn't spelled correctly either. Which is sort of strange timing because you recently posted about Pompeii.

True Dough

(27,637 posts)
34. Not exactly.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:39 PM
Jun 5

Since I've been in more of a historical mode, I'm thinking something along the lines of saber-toothed tigers!


Niagara

(12,397 posts)
36. What big fangs you have
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:45 PM
Jun 5

This image reminds me of a really well done documentary that had all these extinct animals in it.


I can't remember what it was called but it was interesting.

Niagara

(12,397 posts)
39. Not the one lol
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:47 PM
Jun 5

It's an older made with CGI about the extinct ice age animals.

I believe it's called Extinct from 2001.

Niagara

(12,397 posts)
41. I'm super tired today so please bear with me
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 07:14 PM
Jun 5

I think this is it, if not it's very similar. I vaguely remember watching this or whatever it was on Discover or Animal Planet years ago.


marble falls

(73,425 posts)
26. If this is a recipe box, I'm betting the nude chef left frying bacon to others. ...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:14 PM
Jun 5

... if it's a suspense file for bills, he obviously has lost his/her shirt.

Bluestocking

(876 posts)
29. Writing "Che sara sara what shall be shall be"
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:26 PM
Jun 5

on a three-sectional wooden box - often a vintage tea box, spice caddy, or trinket box - typically reflects a philosophy of acceptance, destiny, and letting go of worry over the future.

Bluestocking

(876 posts)
31. A three sectional wooden box is often used to hold momentous
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:30 PM
Jun 5

From different chapters of life. Past present and future or itemized caregorized by life phases

Donkees

(33,750 posts)
40. Etymology: che sara sara
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 06:22 PM
Jun 5

My guess is that it's a love-letter keepsake box because it has a lock.

Etymology
First constructed in the 16th century for English heraldic mottos, and notably quoted as che sera sera by Christopher Marlowe in his 1604 play Doctor Faustus (Act 1, Scene 1). From standard Italian quel che sarà, sarà (“what will be, will be”), ignoring the correct spelling and grammar (according to which a pronoun such as quel, quello or ciò is compulsorily needed at the very beginning of the sentence).

Popularized by the 1956 song “Que Sera, Sera”, which adopted a Spanish-like spelling.
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