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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWhat was GOOD about Soviet Communism?
Having traveled to a few Marxist-Leninist and Maoist states, I noticed a lot of things. Going to the USSR with a Church Group in the 1980s, Cambodia, Vietnam and Laos in the 1990s, and Cuba in the early 2000s - I was able to talk with locals, and get a feel for life in a Communist state.
Most people were sick of it - they wanted choices and they wanted freedom of expression. They also knew that with those things came the dog-eat-dog world of Capitalism. Ideally, all of them, every single last one of them, wanted something in between.
Just as every Empire or State can be capable of horrific things, there can also be some good - even if small. I still say the only thing that was good about the Third Reich was Albert Speer. The Stalinist USSR had a few more good things, but it also had a few more bad things. I think Stalin killed 10 for every 1 Hitler killed.
However, the Moscow Subway system? That has to be seen to be believed. You really got the idea that it was a palace of the people.
So, in looking at the good things under Communism, here's a few I can think of.

- Gazirovannya Voda Machines. These things were great - you paid like one ruble for plain mineral water, 3 rubles for flavored mineral water. They all had a communal cup that for some reason, was never stolen. If you were afraid of catching germs from another comrade, you didn't have to worry: the cup would clean itself after use.

- Ampelmännchen: East German Pedestrian Walk Lights. Seriously, how can these not be cool? These were all over East Germany, and just looked so much more friendly than the generic 'walk dude.' Even more bizarre knowing these came not just from Germany, but Communist East Germany.
- Soviet Guitars. I love my Tonika and you can have it when you pull it from my cold dead fingers! This Tonika was supposed to be a Fender Telecaster. I don't see it....

- Soviet Architecture. Just like Albert Speer being the only good thing about Nazi Germany, Communist buildings were pretty cool too. They totally ran with the whole 'Sputnik Style.' Here's a few more cool creations:


RedCloud
(9,230 posts)Sort of makes me want to kick Hollywood in the nuts!
They took the brunt. We grabbed the glory.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Seriously, I agree 100%
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)and they had the firing squads to back it up if anyone turned around at the wrong time. There was no dissension allowed in the Soviet military.
They lost between 9 and 10 million in military deaths If you add in the number of civilians killed the Soviets lost around 23 million people or 14%.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)RedCloud
(9,230 posts)He includes the people who died becuase the graineries etc. were bombed and caused massive famine.
lastlib
(28,269 posts)...when I was doing a paper for a college class on Communist systems. The ratio of women to men who would have been of military age during WWII was something like 3.8 to one. Almost an entire generation of young men decimated. It has had a ripple effect through Russian life ever since. There is more balance in the younger generations, but that older generation was utterly shattered.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)and there was some no-name guy they called Gagarin...
and the "Ampelmännchen" figures have a huge cult following even today among the nostalgia/kitsch crowds...
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Yeah, I have heard there is a huge cult following over all things East Germany.
According to a German woman I know, she said it is a typical example of the German "joke within a joke within a joke"
ohiosmith
(24,262 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)But that is more of a journal of everyday experiences of Germans
I knew Albert Speer recanted, and yeah he was a great architect, but there's no forgiveness for that man. You buy the ticket, you take the ride.
RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)I would love to have a Tonika!
Here's a Tonika bass for sale on eBay... A little rich for my blood this month...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tonika-ural-FIRST-Soviet-Russian-Electric-Axe-Bass-Guitar-VINTAGE-RARE-jolana-/180982734277?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a23695dc5
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Great guitar if you:
Replace the tuners, pickups and bridge
Have a 5-pin converter
Once you do that, it's actually a screaming guitar. The body has a lot of sustain to it, and the necks on those are solid!
Turbineguy
(40,076 posts)A guy walks into a butcher's shop and says "Do you have any fish today?"
The man behind the counter says "We don't have meat here, they don't have fish at the shop across the street!"
kwassa
(23,340 posts)as Hitler overreached. Incredible sacrifice.
I also liked the subways in Moscow. Full of bronze statues ....I was there in 2002.
Women had professional opportunities under Communism that were way ahead of the capitalist west.
Everyone in Moscow has free heat, and as much as they want.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Oh, and the constructivist propaganda art rocked.

yellowcanine
(36,792 posts)


sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)if you were lucky enough to be in one of the model or protected cities you could live pretty well. But the blandness of the average Soviet city is something else.
ret5hd
(22,502 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)for all things Russia, past and present, including former soviet states. I've spent hours wandering through this (huge) site; its worth checking out.
http://englishrussia.com/
BlueCollar
(3,859 posts)yellowcanine
(36,792 posts)How can you not like a guy who pounds his shoe on the podium?

edbermac
(16,449 posts)
"I enjoy being in America: it's fun, you know, because you have so many things we never had in Russia like warning shots."
"In Russia we only had two TV channels. Channel One was propaganda. Channel Two consisted of a KGB officer telling you: Turn back at once to Channel One."
"In America you have American Express Card, 'Don't leave home without it'. We have Russian Express Card, 'Don't leave home'."
"The first time I went to a restaurant, they asked me 'How many in your party?' and I said 'Six hundred million'."
dawg
(10,777 posts)Officers are elected, but generally in the form of a list of unopposed candidates that *someone* must have nominated. Sometimes the one with the title isn't the one with the power. Who knows what the hell the directors actually do. Things just .... happen.
lastlib
(28,269 posts)(Well, actually they did, but they kept their mouths shut, and didn't have
television or radio stations....almost paradise!--
)
Taverner
(55,476 posts)But that's just me
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Constantly?
Kennah
(14,578 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)They were still using the Julian calendar before the Bolshevik revolution, for Pete's sake!
Enrique
(27,461 posts)even though they invented it to get us to waste all our time.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,198 posts)They wanted to see if it was a mind control plot by the USSR to control US citicens.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)according to my cousin, who grew up in Estonia when it was a Soviet captured nation.
TheMightyFavog
(13,770 posts)The tank that broke Hitler's back.

And the IL-2 Sturmovik, the Airplane that helped.

Sgent
(5,858 posts)achieved the fastest economic growth in the history of the world, and essentially turned a feudalistic agricultural economy into a fully industrialized one.
That being said, the 5 year plan also caused millions to die from starvation, instituted work conditions so severe that they were worse than what peasants had before hand, etc.
Archae
(47,245 posts)It ended.
Otherwise it was fascism, cronyism and corruption. Nothing else.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)but they're technically "free"
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Woadvanced in all the professions.
Literacy rates from below 40% in 1917 to near 100%.
Oh, and they reecovered Hitler's head.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Occasionally he'd take it out and pass it around
Tabasco_Dave
(1,259 posts)They sold them in the US i could buy any composer's music for $3.50 and it was all recorded by the Moscow symphony orchestra.
This is something made from communist China i'd love to have. Notice it's better quality than the capitalist crap they make today.
bif
(27,000 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)were open to and made on behalf of all. Those first five to 10 years -- marred as they were by civil war and misapplied priorities -- were amazing.