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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsLos Angeles or San Francisco?
It is the Maryann or Ginger of California cities.
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17 (89%) |
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petronius
(26,604 posts)Also, did you say Boston was an option? NYC? Paris? New Orleans?
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)That's it. Paris, NOLA, Carmel, Anchorage, Oakland, Baltimore, Sydney, and Tirana are not options.
petronius
(26,604 posts)I'll have to do some calculating.
(OT: just noticed your 'post to be remembered by.' Very powerful...)
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)If you are ever in western South Dakota -- seeing Mt. Rushmore or the Wind Cave -- go to Wounded Knee. It's not pretty, but it's very moving.
I'm hoping through the modern miracle that is social media to get in touch with one of the Spotted Bears (a member of the family ran for tribal President this year) and learn more about the three Spotter Bears that are buried at Wounded Knee.
Having said all of that: San Francisco and LA are the basic choices here.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)Nice place to visit. Wouldn't want to live there.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)my home sweet home.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)also, the only place where a real estate ad boasts of a "nice, sunny neighborhood".
In SF you can still check out females without wondering what they've had done.
Feast on sourdough, Dungeness crab, and of course Anchor Steam.
Yep, "49 square miles completely surrounded by reality".
ohiosmith
(24,262 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)After years and years in the L.A. area I've come to loathe it. If I could sell my house I'd move back to S.F. or, more probably, a little town in the high sierra to get away from it all. Or ideally to the beautiful, unspoiled island of Corsica. Or more precisely, to the sparsely populated wild mountains in the central part of Corsica.
ohiosmith
(24,262 posts)total scumbags on the make. The traffic was horrendous. I lived ten miles from my office but it took an hour or more to get there.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I loved living in San Francisco and Berkeley. I used to go to LA frequently, and I always told myself to keep an open mind, but after about 24 hours I couldn't wait to get out of there and back to the Bay Area. I haven't been to LA in a long while, but it always struck me as being, forgive me, a dirty pit of a city.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)Easy access to Disneyland
Hollywood (even though the actual movie-making business is in Burbank)
Beaches where you can actually swim without a wet suit.
I've spent a lot of time in Berkeley, and I can tell you, it has none of thise things. It has many things I enjoy (and about an equal number that drive me #$%&ing nuts), but it has none of those things.
San Francisco does have cable cars; they invented Irish Coffee; they have lots of spoiled, overfed seals at Fisherman's Wharf that I enjoy visiting. It has really steep hills.
a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)Drool
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)It has for some time.
If you want to wait in a long line to eat a shitty hotdog, be my guest, but most people would think that's one reason that LA is a shit hole.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)Be my guest...wait, never mind.. I can't afford to pay for you to eat there.
My bad on In & Out Burger.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)..but I digress
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)in San Francisco, overpriced froufrou food comes from Gary Danko, and many, many others.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)More important is this burning question:
Froo froo
of
Frou frou
???
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)C'est francais, mon ami.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)from Ma Maison to Spago.
I dont understand why San Francisco gets the reputation for stuck up people when SoCal has people from places like Brentwood, Beverly Hills, Belair, Palos Verdes and Portuguese Bend, Marina Del Rey and, further south, Bixby Knoll, Newport Beach, Corona del Mar, Monarch Bay and other hang outs of the ultra rich. When I was young back in the 70s, I knew a young lady whose mother had a villa at the sea in Monarch Bay and her father had a house with a private pier in Newport Beach. She actually thought rich people were genetically superior to poor people and she wouldnt have even talked to me if she hadnt somehow gotten the impression I was wealthy myself (I kind of lied to her because she was unbearably, almost intolerably gorgeous).
sakabatou
(42,176 posts)Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)I like the general vibe and the rich Asian culture, although to be fair, LA has loads of Asian culture.
Besides, when I fly to Japan, I'd much rather connect at SFO than at LAX. For some reason, SFO seems clean and well organized, while LAX is grungy and inconvenient. Unfortunately, flying out of LAX is often significantly cheaper than flying out of SFO.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)than flying non-stop from MSP to NRT?
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)they overcharge the corporate types. Big time. I have never found the nonstop to be the cheapest flight, not to mention the fact that 13 hours in a 747 with poor seat pitch is not my idea of a good time. If I could afford business class, I might consider it, but not otherwise.
In contrast, both LAX and SFO are served by many airlines that fly to Asia. For some reason, LAX is about $200 cheaper than SFO, perhaps because the airlines feel that they have to bribe non-locals to fly out of it.
When I went in June, I saved $700 by flying through LAX, and that included the spending the night in LA.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I admit that I have been tempted to fly different carriers on my trips back to the US to try to save some money, but I have always been concerned about missing the flight with one carrier flying out of, say, my hometown, and then having to forfeit the connecting flight with the other carrier as a consequence. For example, the last time I flew out of Arkansas, my flight to the connecting international airport was cancelled because the plane that was supposed to have come into the Arkansas airport was stranded at another airport. Since I was flying on the same airline all the way to Japan, however, the airline was able to put me on an international flight for the next day (with a better seat, I might add).
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)I started flying United when they instituted Economy Plus, and having met me, you can understand why I like that. Otherwise, coach is torture.
However, on my June trip, booking on United gave me a return trip on ANA, which I liked very much, so when it came time to make a brief trip for a meeting in October, I went ANA all the way.
No matter where I go, I try to avoid Delta, which bought up our hometown airline of Northwest and broke all the promises it made to get the merger approved. The remaining Northwest employees call it "fuckin' Delta."
I fly Icelandair to Europe (non-stops to Reykjavik with connections to the rest of Europe), Sun Country first class when I can (it's really reasonable) to domestic destinations, and United or other Star Alliance carriers to Asia (and United to destinations that Sun Country doesn't go to).
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I've never flown them, though. I've heard that they were a little pricey, but they are not so expensive out of LAX?
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)That's ANA.
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)the city of L.A. itself (just on the freeway heading to-and-from Disneyland). But from what I hear about it, I wouldn't mind visiting. I have heard about Hollywood, the Staples Center, the beaches, and all the attractive women.
I live right across the Bay from San Francisco, and I like visiting it, but what bugs me is that they have most of the entertainment in the Bay Area. They have the best nightclubs, they have all the big malls, Golden Gate Park, and the Academy of Science. The only thing they don't have is a theme park, which Vallejo does have a la Six Flags.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)Many years ago, shortly after dinosaurs disappeared from the earth, I was born in a small hospital at the corner of MacArthur & Broadway in Oakland. Here is what I like about the East Bay -- it has the view of San Francisco,which (let's face it) is what one really wants.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)is that it's the original home of the most funkalicious group of musicians ever. I saw these guys in 1970 in their first public appearance ever, the opening act for Jimi Hendrix at the Berkeley Community Theater.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)There are some good restaraunts, La Brea Tarpits are nearby and you get a feel for Old Los Angeles...
slutticus
(3,428 posts)take your pick.
pink-o
(4,056 posts)Oh, and BTW: GO NINERS!!!!!
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)even though i am much more comfortable in los angeles -it is ugly & i cannot tolerate the pace of life there. san francisco is much more picturesque...but not my kind of city....santa barbara or san luis are my haunts.
Bucky
(54,073 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)Lived near both and SF is the one and only best city in California, if not the USA!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)What can I say? I'm a Valley Boy...
Initech
(100,104 posts)a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)I miss that place
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)My parents (I am not making this up) treated it as if I were uttering a curse word if I called it that.
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)West-coast lifestyle never really appealed to me regardless of the city. I think AZ or NV is about as far west as I could make it and maintain sanity.
Brother Buzz
(36,469 posts)mokawanis
(4,452 posts)I've always called it Frisco and I caught all kinds of hell for it when I visited a friend there. To me it just makes sense to shorten San Francisco to Frisco.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)XRubicon
(2,212 posts)You don't say it
LWolf
(46,179 posts)OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)However, it is not one of the choices offered.
I think, technically, it's outside California.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I still pick Portland.
LA? Smog, traffic, earthquakes.
SF? Earthquakes.
I'll take the rain any day.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)people like it. I'm not into cars. In fact, I cannot stand them. I don't care for them. I don't like driving for long hours at a time. I don't even like being in a car for long hours at a time. But I understand that some people do enjoy that, so I don't judge them.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)I am not a Norcal snob
mokawanis
(4,452 posts)Both cities are great but if I had to choose one, for a visit or permanent residence, I would choose LA.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)I am obligated by law to vote for San Francisco.
RILib
(862 posts)Xithras
(16,191 posts)I'm really not a big city person, but I've lived in both (near anyway....Berkeley and Long Beach), and given the choice I'd take SF any day.
I was sitting on Treasure Island a few weeks ago watching the sun set over SF, and I was reminded again about how beautiful that city really is. Honestly, for the life of me, I can't think of a single part of LA that qualifies as "beautiful". There are parts that are unique, and parts that are interesting, but for the most part the city is just an sprawl of subdivisions and stripmalls.
San Francisco...
coyotespaw
(1,035 posts)Baltimore.
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)However, this is not an option in this thread.
Broken_Hero
(59,305 posts)XRubicon
(2,212 posts)Bonus for anyone who can name what I lived through.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)nor do I. Angelenos don't even think about SF.
LA is a great city. It gets bad press for no real reason, but I lived there for a long time and miss it. Wonderful neighborhoods and restaurants and beaches.
Zorro
(15,749 posts)The weather is better.
But I prefer SD over LA. Weather is mo' better.
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)Don't leave money on the table, especially when you are young.
What are the long-term prospects for your industry in each place?