Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:33 PM

Taverner (55,476 posts)

When you die, there will be nobody waiting to greet you

There will be no white light, no reunion with loved ones, no long gone pets, children or parents.

Friends who died before you won't meet you in the afterlife, and there will be no paradise.

That is because there is no heaven. No hell.

Just now.

Just here.

If you regret something you did, you will never have a chance to change it.

All we have is now - RIGHT now, as a matter of fact.

So what are you doing right now?

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When you die, there will be nobody waiting to greet you (Original post)	Taverner	Feb 2013	OP
living like today was my last one	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#1
Sad...I was expecting	Sekhmets Daughter	Feb 2013	#25
timing is everything	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#26
Is that the secular version of 72 virgins?	undeterred	Feb 2013	#39
absolutely...I don't think	Sekhmets Daughter	Feb 2013	#40
Reading this post.	WilliamPitt	Feb 2013	#2
Replying to this point	Duer 157099	Feb 2013	#10
Regreting I read this post. This is depressing.	Katashi_itto	Feb 2013	#63
You're in a dark place today, my dear Taverner...	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2013	#3
Excellent Poem!	Taverner	Feb 2013	#11
Aw, thank you! I'm glad you like it...	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2013	#22
Kudos to you Peggy	Frosty1	Feb 2013	#154
Prove it.	Wait Wut	Feb 2013	#4
RIGHT now?	DFW	Feb 2013	#5
Where do you get tangarines this time of year?	TrogL	Feb 2013	#21
Mostly from countries within a 3 to 4 hour flight from here	DFW	Feb 2013	#54
i believe differently from you so i see life differently	loli phabay	Feb 2013	#6
"Hell is other people" - Sartre	Gorp	Feb 2013	#7
Oh No! Does this mean also no rainbow bridge????	HERVEPA	Feb 2013	#8
Or no doggie heaven? I was hoping to see my canine friends. n/t	RebelOne	Feb 2013	#14
this whole topic is a not true	trueblue2007	Mar 2013	#167
Waiting around to die.	callous taoboy	Feb 2013	#9
Did I just hear a request for Townes Van Zandt?	Taverner	Feb 2013	#12
For you, I'd go with this	pintobean	Feb 2013	#19
Visited Townes' grave a few years ago. That was heavy.	callous taoboy	Feb 2013	#31
The version from "Heartworn Highways" is just staggering.	nomorenomore08	Feb 2013	#113
That was beautifully moving	Frosty1	Feb 2013	#155
I'm respectfully disagreeing with you.	Loryn	Feb 2013	#13
I disagree with thee! I disagree with thee! I disagree with thee!	Taverner	Feb 2013	#16
Any evidence for this disagreement, or do you just feel you need to believe it?	HERVEPA	Feb 2013	#18
no. n/t	orleans	Feb 2013	#53
I'm hoping that intelligent life somewhere in the universe	aint_no_life_nowhere	Feb 2013	#15
"He who is not busy being born is busy dying" - Bob Dylan eom	Taverner	Feb 2013	#17
imo: Dylan is wise	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#62
I believe it's all Energy. Up to us how we use it--whether we seek the growth/better/wise	BlancheSplanchnik	Feb 2013	#20
Since resuscitation methods have improved, millions who would have died in the past are now being	Cal33	Feb 2013	#23
The "white light" reported is just what your synapses do when shutting down	Taverner	Feb 2013	#24
Thank you. nt	raccoon	Feb 2013	#27
There are international institutions that have been involved in debates and discussions	Cal33	Feb 2013	#28
If this is true, why have scientists never been able to document "out of body experiences"?	Taverner	Feb 2013	#29
Questions like yours have been asked thousands of times. If you do not intend to do	Cal33	Feb 2013	#30
These charlatans fake corrleation for cause...	Taverner	Feb 2013	#76
wow--	orleans	Feb 2013	#86
Any research that does not use the Scientific Method is flawed	Taverner	Feb 2013	#129
Question...how would a born-blind patient know how to describe things around him/her?	Heddi	Feb 2013	#116
To begin with (1) The patient also described what s/he had heard the doctors	Cal33	Feb 2013	#122
You do know that blind people use the part of their brain, normally used for sight...	Taverner	Feb 2013	#144
I have not heard of this before. But I am familiar with the idea that it is possible for nearby	Cal33	Feb 2013	#146
I see it as the other way around, we created god in Man's image	Taverner	Feb 2013	#148
Yes, many are doing that, especially those who claim that others who don't believe the way they do,	Cal33	Feb 2013	#160
that seems clear to me too.	barbtries	Feb 2013	#163
Especially since gawd evolved as man did	Taverner	Mar 2013	#164
This thought has crossed my mind also: The representation of God as an old man in the clouds	Cal33	Mar 2013	#166
I watch a lot of people die and I personally think you are wrong.	mucifer	Feb 2013	#119
not all the nde report seeing any white light even though ALL of their	orleans	Feb 2013	#55
I agree ~ open your mind	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#64
My mind is open to reasonable explanation	Taverner	Feb 2013	#74
who said anything about heaven? i certainly did not.	orleans	Feb 2013	#85
welcome back	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#90
What you are implying is that the human brain (or at least the brightest ones) is capable of	Cal33	Feb 2013	#91
Why? Why does gravity bring you toward it rather than push you away?	Taverner	Feb 2013	#159
There are more things on heaven and Earth Horatio....	Frosty1	Feb 2013	#156
Perhaps, but the only way we can truly understand them is Scientific Research	Taverner	Feb 2013	#158
There is no evidence that it's "your synapses." You choose to believe that, like others	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#79
There is actually quite a bit of evidence...	Taverner	Feb 2013	#81
I'm familiar with scientists' explanations. It's not evidence of anything.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#84
you can also..	sendero	Feb 2013	#89
An interesting website	felix_numinous	Feb 2013	#32
What am I doing right now?	davidthegnome	Feb 2013	#33
I can only go by the evidence	Taverner	Feb 2013	#34
There may be evidence beyond your evidence.	kwassa	Feb 2013	#43
This may be true, but Occam's Razor suggests not	Taverner	Feb 2013	#111
You may be right.	davidthegnome	Feb 2013	#47
it's the one thing we will never know, never have certainty about	datasuspect	Mar 2013	#174
Whoa. I just came for the strudel.	zonkers	Feb 2013	#35
I came for the porn, or, something like that.	Kennah	Mar 2013	#172
I have had far, far too many things happen in my life	tavernier	Feb 2013	#36
well said	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#65
I'd be happy if just my dogs were there.	Mr.Bill	Feb 2013	#37
Yes, me too. n/t	RebelOne	Feb 2013	#38
No one will be there, except for this guy:	MrScorpio	Feb 2013	#41
Hah! I can leave the holodeck anytime I want.	hunter	Feb 2013	#42
Of course. I'm not welcome in the afterlife	Generic Brad	Feb 2013	#44
Sounds like you've come across too many rigidly fundamentalist type of people. Are you	Cal33	Feb 2013	#108
Rigid fundamentalism is more a state of mind than a place	Generic Brad	Feb 2013	#109
Of course it's a state of mind. But I'd say you'll find a higher percentage of them in	Cal33	Feb 2013	#114
I do agree	Generic Brad	Feb 2013	#132
Respectfully disagree -- partially, and in terms of form.	VOX	Feb 2013	#45
Just because there is energy, doesn't mean its you	Taverner	Feb 2013	#128
Don't tell me that.	femmocrat	Feb 2013	#46
I believe your dogs are "up" there too.	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#48
That's a lovely image.	femmocrat	Feb 2013	#49
I like that!	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#52
I don't have anything to lose by believing and being wrong.	Separation	Feb 2013	#50
I'm eating a sub. All I had ended 5 years ago.	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#51
~ ~ ~	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#59
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2013	#56
he cannot	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#57
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2013	#58
but then	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#60
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2013	#61
When I die, the universe ends as far as I'm concerned.	hobbit709	Feb 2013	#66
I'm keeping my options open	union_maid	Feb 2013	#67
ponder this along your way today:	In_The_Wind	Feb 2013	#68
Thank you dear ITW	union_maid	Feb 2013	#69
Sorry but I will go along with Blaise on this	whistler162	Feb 2013	#70
I disagree.	Glassunion	Feb 2013	#71
Okay, gonna get serious, right here in the Lounge	pink-o	Feb 2013	#72
Wondering why someone would post something like that.	Festivito	Feb 2013	#73
Because I am sick of this war menality!	Taverner	Feb 2013	#75
Oh, well, I was kind of enjoying the wonder.	Festivito	Feb 2013	#82
I hear you and I agree 100 percent!	Frosty1	Mar 2013	#165
Well, you don't KNOW that. You believe that. There's a difference.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#77
I don't - but I am CONVINCED that there is NO GOD	Taverner	Feb 2013	#78
Others are equally convinced there is a God or a supreme being of some sort.	Honeycombe8	Feb 2013	#80
+1	Jamaal510	Feb 2013	#161
Yup. One can make up any fairy tale they like. There are whole books of them.	HERVEPA	Feb 2013	#101
before answering this post -	LiberalElite	Feb 2013	#83
I never expected all the false glory when I die so...	Jasana	Feb 2013	#87
I believe that many become atheists as a reaction (whether consciously or not) to	Cal33	Feb 2013	#88
Thank you for your kind words Cal33	Jasana	Feb 2013	#92
I went through a very long journey	Taverner	Feb 2013	#98
Science deals with the physical. God, by definition, is non-physical. You can't	Cal33	Feb 2013	#120
Nope. Most atheists just realize the belief in a god or an afterlife makes no sense.	HERVEPA	Feb 2013	#102
Or very young. He was still a teen-ager -- a freshman at college, I believe, and very	Cal33	Feb 2013	#118
You know that you're making an offensive and belittling statement, right?	Orrex	Feb 2013	#124
My husband's family lost a child (his sibling)	Arugula Latte	Feb 2013	#150
I have no quarrel with atheism at all. You seem to be simply following what feels right to you.	Cal33	Mar 2013	#170
BS.	darkangel218	Feb 2013	#93
Yep, and who cares. I've got stage 4 cancer, and I don't want an afterlife.	Evoman	Feb 2013	#94
Am sorry to hear of your condition. I am open to most ideas about the hereafter. But, don't be	Cal33	Feb 2013	#95
Got any evidence other than antecdotal?	Taverner	Feb 2013	#97
Yeah, I'm not buying it.	Evoman	Feb 2013	#99
I had a long-time neighbor whose mother passed away. A few days later while (I'll call her Mary)	Cal33	Feb 2013	#106
These are both examples of antecdotal evidence	Taverner	Feb 2013	#112
Your traumatic experience probably was the slow type and in small doses, and it	Cal33	Feb 2013	#123
You're welcome to believe in woo.	HERVEPA	Feb 2013	#103
Eh, I don't care.	Evoman	Feb 2013	#145
I'm so sorry	Taverner	Feb 2013	#96
Thank's bud....I appreciate it.	Evoman	Feb 2013	#100
Right now, I'm reading your post.	hamsterjill	Feb 2013	#104
I believe in neither god/s, heaven, hell, an afterlife nor ghosts ... but	Arugula Latte	Feb 2013	#105
I'm an agnostic, uncomfortable with these absolutist statements	DerekG	Feb 2013	#107
My husband is too...	a la izquierda	Feb 2013	#117
Yes, there will be.	edbermac	Feb 2013	#110
What I do know, is people have all sorts of experiences that, while perhaps not "objectively" real	nomorenomore08	Feb 2013	#115
So what am I doing right now?	kentauros	Feb 2013	#121
I'm fucking my hand...	Taverner	Feb 2013	#126
That's just not true at all	Capt. Obvious	Feb 2013	#125
....	Taverner	Feb 2013	#127
I died and was resusitated.	hollysmom	Feb 2013	#130
Wondering why you dumped this in the Lounge.	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#131
Or "Took a dump in the Lounge"	kentauros	Feb 2013	#133
I am reality. Hear me poop.	Taverner	Feb 2013	#140
He wasn't thinking.	pintobean	Feb 2013	#134
Says the guy with a huge transparency page.	Rex	Feb 2013	#135
Go ahead!	Taverner	Feb 2013	#138
So grandpa really can't see you masturbating?	Major Nikon	Feb 2013	#136
And this concludes Taverner's Cheerful Thought of the Day. (c)	Tommy_Carcetti	Feb 2013	#137
What can I say? I'm just puppy dogs and fucking rainbows!	Taverner	Feb 2013	#139
Somebody needs to throw a Crocogator in a Hurricane into the mix.	Tommy_Carcetti	Feb 2013	#141
Can crocogators fly?	Taverner	Feb 2013	#142
This needs to be explained to the walking dead WalMart shoppers because	graywarrior	Feb 2013	#143
The neuroscientist claims he was brain dead but yet he remembers.....	yellowcanine	Feb 2013	#147
I don't pretend to know one way or the other...	LanternWaste	Feb 2013	#149
Wishing I could take back that I opened this post	liberal N proud	Feb 2013	#151
How will someone be waiting for me when I'm not going anywhere?	LiberalFighter	Feb 2013	#152
maybe, maybe not.	barbtries	Feb 2013	#153
Oh, darn.	Still Blue in PDX	Feb 2013	#157
Until there is some type of device that can revitalize deceased people,	Jamaal510	Feb 2013	#162
Actually, I will be greeted by a surgeon -- I'm donating my organs. nt	eppur_se_muova	Mar 2013	#168
Wouldn't you love to come back for like 5 seconds	Taverner	Mar 2013	#169
Says who?	SpartanDem	Mar 2013	#171
i'm about as "feet in the ground" as much as the next guy	datasuspect	Mar 2013	#173

Response to Taverner (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:37 PM

In_The_Wind (72,300 posts)

1. living like today was my last one

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When you die, there will be nobody waiting to greet you

1. living like today was my last one

25. Sad...I was expecting

26. timing is everything

39. Is that the secular version of 72 virgins?

40. absolutely...I don't think

2. Reading this post.

10. Replying to this point

63. Regreting I read this post. This is depressing.

3. You're in a dark place today, my dear Taverner...

11. Excellent Poem!

22. Aw, thank you! I'm glad you like it...

154. Kudos to you Peggy

4. Prove it.

5. RIGHT now?

21. Where do you get tangarines this time of year?

54. Mostly from countries within a 3 to 4 hour flight from here

6. i believe differently from you so i see life differently

7. "Hell is other people" - Sartre

8. Oh No! Does this mean also no rainbow bridge????

14. Or no doggie heaven? I was hoping to see my canine friends. n/t

167. this whole topic is a not true

9. Waiting around to die.

12. Did I just hear a request for Townes Van Zandt?

19. For you, I'd go with this

31. Visited Townes' grave a few years ago. That was heavy.

113. The version from "Heartworn Highways" is just staggering.

155. That was beautifully moving

13. I'm respectfully disagreeing with you.

16. I disagree with thee! I disagree with thee! I disagree with thee!

18. Any evidence for this disagreement, or do you just feel you need to believe it?

53. no. n/t

15. I'm hoping that intelligent life somewhere in the universe

17. "He who is not busy being born is busy dying" - Bob Dylan eom

62. imo: Dylan is wise

20. I believe it's all Energy. Up to us how we use it--whether we seek the growth/better/wise

23. Since resuscitation methods have improved, millions who would have died in the past are now being

24. The "white light" reported is just what your synapses do when shutting down

27. Thank you. nt

28. There are international institutions that have been involved in debates and discussions

29. If this is true, why have scientists never been able to document "out of body experiences"?

30. Questions like yours have been asked thousands of times. If you do not intend to do

76. These charlatans fake corrleation for cause...

86. wow--

129. Any research that does not use the Scientific Method is flawed

116. Question...how would a born-blind patient know how to describe things around him/her?

122. To begin with (1) The patient also described what s/he had heard the doctors

144. You do know that blind people use the part of their brain, normally used for sight...

146. I have not heard of this before. But I am familiar with the idea that it is possible for nearby

148. I see it as the other way around, we created god in Man's image

160. Yes, many are doing that, especially those who claim that others who don't believe the way they do,

163. that seems clear to me too.

164. Especially since gawd evolved as man did

166. This thought has crossed my mind also: The representation of God as an old man in the clouds

119. I watch a lot of people die and I personally think you are wrong.

55. not all the nde report seeing any white light even though ALL of their

64. I agree ~ open your mind

74. My mind is open to reasonable explanation

85. who said anything about heaven? i certainly did not.

90. welcome back

91. What you are implying is that the human brain (or at least the brightest ones) is capable of

159. Why? Why does gravity bring you toward it rather than push you away?

156. There are more things on heaven and Earth Horatio....

158. Perhaps, but the only way we can truly understand them is Scientific Research

79. There is no evidence that it's "your synapses." You choose to believe that, like others

81. There is actually quite a bit of evidence...

84. I'm familiar with scientists' explanations. It's not evidence of anything.

89. you can also..

32. An interesting website

33. What am I doing right now?

34. I can only go by the evidence

43. There may be evidence beyond your evidence.

111. This may be true, but Occam's Razor suggests not

47. You may be right.

174. it's the one thing we will never know, never have certainty about

35. Whoa. I just came for the strudel.

172. I came for the porn, or, something like that.

36. I have had far, far too many things happen in my life

65. well said

37. I'd be happy if just my dogs were there.