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blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:58 PM Feb 2013

Sick of filling out online job applications...

Why doesn't a cover letter and resume suffice? Is it an HR thing??? Must have app on file?

And if one more interviewer asks me what my greatest strengths and weaknesses are or "tell me about a time when you had to deal with adversity in the workplace" I am going to scream!!!

On edit: 4th interview in 3 days.....it seems to be harder than working!!!!

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Sick of filling out online job applications... (Original Post) blueamy66 Feb 2013 OP
Tell me about it. drm604 Feb 2013 #1
You took the words right outta my mouth! blueamy66 Feb 2013 #3
It's def. for HR midwest irish Feb 2013 #2
Very silly. blueamy66 Feb 2013 #4
I can tell you why my agency requires them. yewberry Feb 2013 #5
I can understand needing forms and such for possible future lawsuits, kentauros Feb 2013 #6
Nothing like being given a spelling test by a HR person. blueamy66 Feb 2013 #9
I've had tests like that, kentauros Feb 2013 #11
On my last job interview in which I was hired, RebelOne Feb 2013 #17
I remember a thread around here some time back, kentauros Mar 2013 #18
It's extremely stressful being unemployed. Boomerproud Feb 2013 #7
Here's what I really hate bif Feb 2013 #8
And there's no "save" button! kentauros Feb 2013 #10
all job seekers would be served by reading Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2013 #12
thanks snagglepuss Feb 2013 #15
They have the computer screen you first. alarimer Feb 2013 #13
I hear you. GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #14
I'm sorry that you haven't been getting any interviews. blueamy66 Feb 2013 #16

drm604

(16,230 posts)
1. Tell me about it.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:18 PM
Feb 2013

Why do I have to spend time filling out a job history that's already covered in the resume that they asked me to attach? All I'm doing is cutting and pasting from the resume. I'm spending 20 minutes filling out an application that has about a one in a thousand chance of leading to anything, and the information is already there in the damned resume!

And don't get me started on the damned interview questions. It's HR people blindly reading from a list of questions and eliminating anyone who hesitates in thinking of an answer. Technical questions about my job skills are fine, but that's not what they're doing. All they're doing is screening for people who are good at giving canned answers to canned questions. It's just an arbitrary way to cut down the number of applicants.

Then there's the jobs I "almost got". After the interview the recruiter strings you along for a week or two saying things like "they love you", "you're exactly what they're looking for", "they just have to finish the paperwork", and then a week later telling you "upper management says that they are not hiring anyone for any reason at this time". Yes, that really happened to me.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
3. You took the words right outta my mouth!
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:27 PM
Feb 2013

To make it worse, I am applying for both myself and my fiancé. He's in the restaurant mgt business, so there are a lot of companies that want an online app filled out. I'm in admin, so I have been pretty lucky with just sending a résumé in, with a nice cover letter.

Maybe someone in HR can shed some light on all of this business...

 

midwest irish

(155 posts)
2. It's def. for HR
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:24 PM
Feb 2013

I recently applied, interviewed and received a job. However, I had not filled out the application form in HR. So in my first week of employment I needed to fill out an application form. How silly is that.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
4. Very silly.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
Feb 2013

And some of the apps that are to be filled out in office are so antiquated and so obviously copied 8 million times....makes the company look stupid.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
5. I can tell you why my agency requires them.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:32 PM
Feb 2013

The place I work had a reputation of favoritism & nepotism in hiring for a long time-- that era is over, but as a result every recruitment is required to use identical criteria in making hiring decisions. Also, we get sued for not hiring people about once a year, and we have to be able to produce all of the materials we used for any given hire and justify every decision.

Pain in the behind, but that's what we have to do.

And yeah, those interview questions suuuuuuck.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
6. I can understand needing forms and such for possible future lawsuits,
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:53 PM
Feb 2013

but what exactly do those question fulfill? The answers are arbitrary, and at least one of them can't be answered in a way that would get you the job (i.e., "Where do you see yourself in five years?&quot

The best interviews I ever had, whether I got the job or not, were from the people that would be my bosses. The worst interviews were from HR personnel, and all too often they not only didn't know what the position entailed, but had no idea what questions to ask (I do drafting and expect either engineering or surveyor questions, not BS HR questions.)

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
11. I've had tests like that,
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:56 PM
Feb 2013

from recruiters that were just beginning to branch out into tech fields. Their tests were still directed towards the admin-assistant or clerical personnel and had nothing to do with the tech fields. Made me wonder how many applicants blew them off after going through that...

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
17. On my last job interview in which I was hired,
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:00 PM
Feb 2013

I was asked, "Where do you see yourself in five years?" I answered, "Making more money." I was hired. I worked there for 13 years until the company went downhill, and I was laid off. And I was not making a lot more money.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
18. I remember a thread around here some time back,
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:13 AM
Mar 2013

where it was all about these idiotic questions from HR. The analysis of that question was that if you answer with "I expect to still be doing my job" that you lack ambition and won't be hired. Whereas, if you answer with "I expect to be in a management position (or whatever is higher than what you're applying for)" then you are seen as having too much ambition and won't be hired.

The implication was that no answer was satisfactory, which begs the further question, "Why is it asked at all?"

Boomerproud

(9,360 posts)
7. It's extremely stressful being unemployed.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:56 PM
Feb 2013

I am almost at the crack-up point. I'm also 50+. Enough said. I can't even get even get a face to face interview at McDonald's, and I have 34 years office/admin. experience.

bif

(27,226 posts)
8. Here's what I really hate
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:59 PM
Feb 2013

You spend about a half hour filling out an online form, you get near the end and there's an error. You know if you hit the "back" button, everything will be lost!

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
10. And there's no "save" button!
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:55 PM
Feb 2013

Especially when they have page after page for just the application form, all based on Flash or Java, because, you know, it has to be edgy to get the right candidates!

I wonder how often they get letters from people that know their stuff in web-development telling them what a POS their online application site is...

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
13. They have the computer screen you first.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:32 PM
Feb 2013

It looks for key words that you must have otherwise you won't screen through.

GoCubsGo

(34,998 posts)
14. I hear you.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:10 PM
Feb 2013

At least you are getting interviews. I haven't even been able to find any jobs to which I can apply for the past few weeks, let alone get an interview.

You know what irritates me WAY more than those questions you mentioned? When they ask you to tell them about your experience. It's all on the fucking resume/application.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
16. I'm sorry that you haven't been getting any interviews.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:59 PM
Feb 2013

We are both getting interviews, but no serious job offers.

I always think that I do/did so well, but don't get the darn job!

We just have to keep plugging along.

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