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HipChick

(25,612 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:30 AM Mar 2013

How difficult would it be to replace a fuse?


Multiple electrical outlets are not working

No fuses appear to have been tripped

Have tried to flip off and on fuse which controls outlets..nada

so thinking fuse itself is bad...I have googled countless youtube videos that guide me to taking the whole panel apart to replace said fuse

Do I just flip all switches off and after a quick trip to Lowes or HomeDepot, replace said fuse?

If there is a short somewhere, how do I even start tracking down said short?

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How difficult would it be to replace a fuse? (Original Post) HipChick Mar 2013 OP
Call the electrician, and have them replace it~! MADem Mar 2013 #1
I replaced the entire fusebox about 3 years ago HipChick Mar 2013 #3
If bluedave Mar 2013 #11
Then you shouldn't have fuses, you should have circuit breakers .... Scuba Mar 2013 #14
Be sure to turn off the main switch Sekhmets Daughter Mar 2013 #2
Hopefully that is in the same panel as the box HipChick Mar 2013 #5
Usually. Sekhmets Daughter Mar 2013 #12
G'morning. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #7
Can you describe the fuse? Let's start with that. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #4
It just says 15A GE brand HipChick Mar 2013 #6
So it's a rectangle not round. Taking a photo is a good idea. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #8
Rectangle...and not round HipChick Mar 2013 #9
Ouch! How many fuses are there in your panel? In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #10
2 stacks of about 10 I think HipChick Mar 2013 #13
These sound like circuit breakers, not fuses. Do they each have a switch on them??? Scuba Mar 2013 #16
Yes..there is a switch on them...I believe they are circuit breakers HipChick Mar 2013 #18
Then DO NOT remove them. THey have live wires attached. Scuba Mar 2013 #34
Not necessarily A HERETIC I AM Mar 2013 #46
Can't you remove them if the main switch is off HipChick Mar 2013 #20
Yes, but ... Scuba Mar 2013 #35
You need to unplug everything on that fuse. Are there any spares in the box? In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #17
No spares, but that was going to be my next test HipChick Mar 2013 #19
Unplug everything you can first. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #26
fuse or circuit breaker? Ptah Mar 2013 #15
Flipping circuit breaker switches Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #21
Nicely done. Betsy Ross Mar 2013 #49
This is a circuit breaker and not a fuse. Grantuspeace Mar 2013 #22
This circuit breaker has tripped a few times in the past... HipChick Mar 2013 #23
Sometimes the outlets can loosen up and slide against the ground wire or touch the sides of a metal Grantuspeace Mar 2013 #24
If I shut everything off, is it safe to take the panel cover off to take a look? HipChick Mar 2013 #25
Only if you throw the main breaker shutting all power off to your house. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #28
PLEASE DISREGARD ALL POSTS PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE! Callmecrazy Mar 2013 #27
Thanks heavens you showed up! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #29
This post previous to yours seems to be full of professional information Ptah Mar 2013 #30
You're right Ptah... Callmecrazy Mar 2013 #31
I'm not a helpless female..just get skiddish when it comes to electrical stuff HipChick Mar 2013 #33
Didn't mean to imply that you were... Callmecrazy Mar 2013 #38
No offense taken...but that's the thing, the breaker never tripped.. HipChick Mar 2013 #40
Have you tested and reset all of your GFCI oulets? Callmecrazy Mar 2013 #32
Not sure I have any HipChick Mar 2013 #36
The one that handles most of my house is in the guest bathroom. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #37
They're the plugs with the test/reset buttons on 'em... Callmecrazy Mar 2013 #39
Replacing a circuit breaker is pretty easy, but you do need to be careful. Old and In the Way Mar 2013 #41
hmm...removing wiring? HipChick Mar 2013 #42
The main breaker is usually marked as 100 or 200 on the switch lever. Old and In the Way Mar 2013 #43
Yeah... Callmecrazy Mar 2013 #45
I don't know that I'd go to a 20 amp breaker... Callmecrazy Mar 2013 #44
Good point....I always use 12ga Romex on all of my wiring projects, but this might not be the case. Old and In the Way Mar 2013 #47
I agree... Callmecrazy Mar 2013 #48
Thanks for all your help...I picked up a 15A CB at the store HipChick Mar 2013 #50

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. Call the electrician, and have them replace it~!
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:33 AM
Mar 2013

If your panel is old, you may not be able to buy the fuses easily. Sometimes the electricians will have an old panel with "good" fuses in it and they will swap 'em out.

You've tried shutting off the main power and resetting, to no avail...?

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
3. I replaced the entire fusebox about 3 years ago
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:42 AM
Mar 2013

and they also replaced the wiring in there too, so I should be able to get fuses

I smelt a funny smell coming from it, went to look,and there were orange sparks flying from it...apparently I had a fire brewing in there due to substandard wiring and didn't know it

bluedave

(366 posts)
11. If
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:52 AM
Mar 2013

you had sparks flying out of the panel U'd best get an electrician and leave it alone.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
14. Then you shouldn't have fuses, you should have circuit breakers ....
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:55 AM
Mar 2013

Is everything off? Then trying resetting your "main" breaker.

Sometimes a breaker can look like it's in the 'on' position, but need to be reset. Trying throwing and resetting all of them.

If in doubt, call an electrician.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
2. Be sure to turn off the main switch
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:35 AM
Mar 2013

that cuts all power to the box! Unless you like being knocked on your ass...or worse! It's not that difficult at all and there should be someone there to give you further guidance.

Also be sure to know exactly what type of fuse, and model number. Depending on the age of your home, you may need a different type of fuse.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
12. Usually.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:54 AM
Mar 2013

But you may have look for it elsewhere. Again, it you take all the models numbers to HD or Lowe's they should be able to tell you.

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
6. It just says 15A GE brand
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:43 AM
Mar 2013

I'm going to take a picture on my cellphone and take it with me when I go to Lowes/HD

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
8. So it's a rectangle not round. Taking a photo is a good idea.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:47 AM
Mar 2013

Are you renting? If so ... call someone else to do all of this for you.
It's the owners responsibility.
If you goof you are the one who will pay for your mistake.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
16. These sound like circuit breakers, not fuses. Do they each have a switch on them???
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:57 AM
Mar 2013

Don't remove a circuit breaker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DANGER

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
34. Then DO NOT remove them. THey have live wires attached.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:53 AM
Mar 2013

Try flipping them back and forth. If that doesn't work, call a pro.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,876 posts)
46. Not necessarily
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:34 AM
Mar 2013

Many switch type circuit breakers simply plug into a socket in the panel;



You may have to remove the panel face, but many circuit breakers require little more than pulling them out.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
35. Yes, but ...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:55 AM
Mar 2013

... the can have a stored charge. After turning off the main, attach a fan or small light to the circuit to consume any stored energy. Then they can be removed.

But circuit breakers seldom fail and are not considered a user-maintenance item.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
17. You need to unplug everything on that fuse. Are there any spares in the box?
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:05 AM
Mar 2013

You can try changing another one in place of that as a test.
Sometimes the fuse will go bad.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. Flipping circuit breaker switches
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:13 AM
Mar 2013

This has happened to me quite a few times. One thing that happens that I learned the hard way: FLIP THOSE SWITCHES ALL THE WAY ON, THEN ALL THE WAY OFF, THEN ALL THE WAY ON AGAIN. Then do it again. THEN GO OUTSIDE TO THE HOUSE'S MAIN ELECTRICAL SWITCH (mine is outside on the wall of the back of house)...FLIP THAT SWITCH ALL THE WAY ON, THEN ALL THE WAY OFF, THEN ALL THE WAY ON AGAIN. Then do it again.

When a circuit overloads, sometimes the main house switch or the individual switches need to be what I call "reset." Breaker switches also tend to do this when they get old.

My fuses look like this, and just screw in - they all sit in a circuit panel like the breaker switch panels, except they are screw-in fuses instead of flip switches (they're pretty cute, aren't they? They are different colors.):


Circuit breaker vs. fuses

I have both fuses and circuit breaker panels, because my house is old (the fuse system) and prior owner added new circuits (the circuit breaker panels).

My fuses are old fashioned round fuses, glass heads, and say amps on top (15A, 20A, 30A).

My circuit breakers look like all circuit breakers, and look similar to these:





I wouldn't go into the circuit panel, if something is malfunctioning there. That really is professional electrician time, IMO. Dangerous. I would only change a fuse if it's a screw-in fuse, meant for homeowners to change.

Betsy Ross

(3,150 posts)
49. Nicely done.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 12:11 PM
Mar 2013

Our 1918 house has one little panel of fuses hiding at the top of the linen closet. We did have to find it at an awkward time. But still better than the rental where the front stair we replaced with brick; you had to crawl under the house the reach the breakers that were adjacent to the stairs. That happened on a raining New Year's eve just after moving in. We can laugh about it today.

Grantuspeace

(873 posts)
22. This is a circuit breaker and not a fuse.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:15 AM
Mar 2013

I am a master electrian with over 25 years experience. Unplug everything that is not working and examine any cords. Visually inspect the outlets after unplugging everything that isn't working. Turn off all the lights that aren't working. Check outside for outlets that aren't working often water can get into these. If you have a detached garage often the underground wiring can go bad in the spring.

My experience says you have a defective light fixture or appliance or extention cord plugged in somewhere. GE brand circuit breakers can be difficult to discern whether or not they are tripped.
When restting circuit breakers, do not stand directly in front of the box. Take a step or two to either side and reach over.

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
23. This circuit breaker has tripped a few times in the past...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:19 AM
Mar 2013

but today is just dead..no extra appliances was plugged in

Grantuspeace

(873 posts)
24. Sometimes the outlets can loosen up and slide against the ground wire or touch the sides of a metal
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:21 AM
Mar 2013

box. Any detective work you do can save you $$$ by shortening the electricians service call.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
28. Only if you throw the main breaker shutting all power off to your house.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:28 AM
Mar 2013

Don't go that far!

Callmecrazy

(3,070 posts)
27. PLEASE DISREGARD ALL POSTS PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE!
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:28 AM
Mar 2013

Hello HipChick. I am hear to rescue you from the amateurs (no offense).
I am 18 years a journeyman electrician. I need you to answer a few question.
1.What circuit is not working? Kitchen, bathrooms, living room?
2. Lights or outlets?

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
33. I'm not a helpless female..just get skiddish when it comes to electrical stuff
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:43 AM
Mar 2013

This is a bedroom circuit, but also controls another socket outside the bedroom - joining wall...only sockets in bedroom and this adjoining room..all outlets

Callmecrazy

(3,070 posts)
38. Didn't mean to imply that you were...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:07 AM
Mar 2013

in fact I think it's right to seek professional advice.
Everyone here wants to be helpful, which is great. I just wanted to cut through all the fog in the thread.
If you have unplugged everything from the circuit, reset any GFCI outlets and the breaker still trips, you may have a loose outlet that is hitting the box and shorting, or a bad breaker.
If you find a wiggly outlet on that circuit, it's suspect.
If not, time to call in a pro.

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
40. No offense taken...but that's the thing, the breaker never tripped..
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:13 AM
Mar 2013

Still in the on position...just no power

Callmecrazy

(3,070 posts)
32. Have you tested and reset all of your GFCI oulets?
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:42 AM
Mar 2013

They are like mini circuit breakers that control one or more outlets and can span more than one room.
They are always found in kitchens and bathrooms, garages and outdoor receptacles, basements.
The ones in the kitchen can control up to four outlets including the dining room.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
37. The one that handles most of my house is in the guest bathroom.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:03 AM
Mar 2013

It knocked out half of my house one night.

Callmecrazy

(3,070 posts)
39. They're the plugs with the test/reset buttons on 'em...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:12 AM
Mar 2013

If they are bedroom outlets, I doubt they'll be on GFCI, but check 'em anyway.
You might get lucky.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
41. Replacing a circuit breaker is pretty easy, but you do need to be careful.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:15 AM
Mar 2013

(1) Shut the main breakers off.
(2) remove the front panel cover...usually 2 screws that hold the cover on the box
(3) remove the black wire from the CB
(4) pop the circuit breaker out...the breaker is press fit on the neutral side by a metal blade in the box.

get a new 110V / 15A breaker (might go to a 20Amp breaker if this circuit is loaded with stuff that's drawing 15 amps or more)

If the circuit breaker trips immediately after turning on the main breaker, you have a short circuit condition....and that means you'll have to check all outlets/junction boxes that are tied to this circuit to determine where the short circuit is occuring.

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
42. hmm...removing wiring?
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:20 AM
Mar 2013

I think I'm at the point, where I going to have to resign myself to call an electrican if I cannot by certain identify and locate main breaker switch

A fried DU'er first thing in the morning is not good

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
43. The main breaker is usually marked as 100 or 200 on the switch lever.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:27 AM
Mar 2013

You have either a 100 amp or 200 amp entrance. The main breaker is at the top of the panel, usually isolated from the other circuit breakers.

Callmecrazy

(3,070 posts)
45. Yeah...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:30 AM
Mar 2013

After that, the day is pretty much shot.
Old and In the Way describes the procedure accurately and makes it sound easy... and to an electrician it's a chicken wing. But if your removing the dead front of a panel you can't be skiddish around it. Skiddish will get you hurt or worse.
Let a pro do it at this point.

Callmecrazy

(3,070 posts)
44. I don't know that I'd go to a 20 amp breaker...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:29 AM
Mar 2013

If it's 14 gauge wire on a 15 amp CB and is tripping frequently, it could be an overload and getting the wires hot. Putting a 20 amp on that circuit could create more heat and a fire hazard.
Stick with the 15A.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
47. Good point....I always use 12ga Romex on all of my wiring projects, but this might not be the case.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 11:56 AM
Mar 2013

I think the poster should try to audit what is on this circuit in terms of total amperage draw. It might well be that he/she might be exceeding the limitations of the circuitbreaker.

Callmecrazy

(3,070 posts)
48. I agree...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 12:03 PM
Mar 2013

There's a heat build up on the circuit. Take a device or two off the line and it should be good.
That'll take care of the next problem but it sounds like this breaker is shot.

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
50. Thanks for all your help...I picked up a 15A CB at the store
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:18 PM
Mar 2013

and a voltage detector...I'm going in...

I also pulled a bunch of items of this circuit now, so we will see

If I never post again....well...I'm sure you will be able to put two and two together

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