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Why did Elliott Smith have to die? Why Lennon? Why Cobain? (Original Post) Taverner May 2013 OP
Music is a helluva drug. 7wo7rees May 2013 #1
Only the good die young... nomorenomore08 May 2013 #2
Fuck if I know mokawanis May 2013 #3
God Said No. vanlassie May 2013 #4
God is dead Taverner May 2013 #5
Oh. Good to know Do you like Dan Bern? vanlassie May 2013 #6
People often pay a high price for being born with above average intelligence and creativity. Locut0s May 2013 #7
Don't I know it... Aspiring novelist/short-story writer here... nomorenomore08 May 2013 #8
Hey - let's start a band... Taverner May 2013 #17
Yeah, no musical talent to speak of here. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #22
Why do any of us die. In_The_Wind May 2013 #9
Because all we are is Phentex May 2013 #15
They live hard and they die young. femmocrat May 2013 #10
Well, John Lennon was shot Art_from_Ark May 2013 #29
I know that. nt femmocrat May 2013 #30
Perhaps, because they were not afraid to experience life Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #11
Mark Kozelek mentions them on "Among the Leaves" Myrina May 2013 #12
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #13
I comfort myself with the idea that people like Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley, and Judee Sill 6000eliot May 2013 #14
Buckley is the one that really gets me. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #23
I'm reading Dream Brother right now. 6000eliot May 2013 #28
Yeah, his father's death really haunted him. Seems like it could've contributed to his own, nomorenomore08 May 2013 #31
We're human. Iggo May 2013 #16
Janis. Jim Morrison. Biggie. Tupac. KamaAina May 2013 #18
Loved that Stephen King story! Taverner May 2013 #19
And Scott Stapp lives on ... Arugula Latte May 2013 #20
Yes... Taverner May 2013 #21
To paraphrase Bill Hicks/Denis Leary, Stevie Ray Vaughan's dead and we can't get Jon Bon Jovi nomorenomore08 May 2013 #24
... warrprayer May 2013 #25
Why am I going to die? Why am I not immortal? kwassa May 2013 #26
Well, bullets/whatever's in a shotgun shell aren't conducive to being in the human body. harmonicon May 2013 #27

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
7. People often pay a high price for being born with above average intelligence and creativity.
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:00 AM
May 2013

The smartest and most creative are often tortured souls.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
8. Don't I know it... Aspiring novelist/short-story writer here...
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:52 AM
May 2013

Can't make any claims of being a great artist, but I try.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
22. Yeah, no musical talent to speak of here.
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:14 PM
May 2013

But just out of curiosity, what style(s) do you play?

Phentex

(16,709 posts)
15. Because all we are is
Thu May 9, 2013, 10:39 AM
May 2013

dust in the wiiiiiiind!




Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky!

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
10. They live hard and they die young.
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:08 AM
May 2013

And many of them engage in dangerous habits. But you already knew that.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
11. Perhaps, because they were not afraid to experience life
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:17 AM
May 2013

I think of John Lennon....

Or perhaps the opposite is true... Cobain & Smith, for example, may have feared life and tried to numb the experiences....

Why ask...there is neither rhyme nor reason to life.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
12. Mark Kozelek mentions them on "Among the Leaves"
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:36 AM
May 2013

His song "Track Number 8" is about the angst of being a songwriter and in it he mentions several of them.

Response to Taverner (Original post)

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
14. I comfort myself with the idea that people like Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley, and Judee Sill
Thu May 9, 2013, 10:28 AM
May 2013

died because they were just too good for this world.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
23. Buckley is the one that really gets me.
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:23 PM
May 2013

Sill, I'm not very familiar with, and Drake was basically non-functioning the last couple years of his life, due to severe depression. But Buckley was a once-in-a-generation talent, as both a songwriter and a singer, and he was working on a follow-up to one of the best albums of the decade - and one of the best debuts ever - when he drowned in the Mississippi. One of the most senseless musical deaths I can think of.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
28. I'm reading Dream Brother right now.
Thu May 9, 2013, 08:06 PM
May 2013

It alternates chapters on Jeff and his father Tim, who also died a senseless death at a young age. Drake made music of exquisite fragile beauty, as did Sill, who I compare with Brian Wilson for musical genius and William Blake for lyrical depth.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
31. Yeah, his father's death really haunted him. Seems like it could've contributed to his own,
Fri May 10, 2013, 01:06 AM
May 2013

subconsciously. And I agree on Drake - I think 'Bryter Layter' especially is a stunning album - although his stuff is, maybe not too intense, but too something for me to want to listen to it very frequently. I guess more than anything it's just incredibly sad music, not so obviously depressive in an Ian Curtis or Michael Gira sort of way, but more the expression of a poetic, lonely soul. Someone who feels intimately tied to nature and to the place he's from, yet also distant - in an almost alien way - from everything and everyone.

And I guess I need to check out Judee Sill, since you've given her very high praise indeed.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
18. Janis. Jim Morrison. Biggie. Tupac.
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:25 PM
May 2013

Amy Winehouse. Pigpen from the Dead. And so on...

You know they've got a hell of a band...

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
24. To paraphrase Bill Hicks/Denis Leary, Stevie Ray Vaughan's dead and we can't get Jon Bon Jovi
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:25 PM
May 2013

on a fuckin' helicopter???

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
27. Well, bullets/whatever's in a shotgun shell aren't conducive to being in the human body.
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:33 PM
May 2013

The body naturally reacts by dying.

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