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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
2. I watched the original before Quentin's movie
Mon May 13, 2013, 03:57 AM
May 2013


So I got the Franco Nero reference.

With Quentin I knew what would happen, still the decision to kill Candy by Schultz seemed stretched and illogical to me.
 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
7. I like the illogic of Schultz's decision...
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:38 AM
May 2013

it showed that even a man as cool and collected as Schultz has a breaking point. In his case, it was Beethoven in the hands of savage slaveowners.
Also, Schultz had to die so that Django could act through his own agency.

Call Me Wesley

(38,187 posts)
8. I assume you're white ...
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:18 PM
May 2013

There was nothing stretched nor illogical by Schultz killing Candy. He despised what he stood for and has watched him killing two men, then defend his racist position over and over again. Forced to shake the hand of a mass-murderer, Tarantino made this his masterpiece by 'I'm sorry, I had no choice.'

He had no choice. He had to kill the mass-murderer. I don't see what's illogical here unless you want to defend the character of 'Candy.'

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
9. He seemed to make all those complicated plans, he killed wanted men in front of their children
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:25 PM
May 2013

without problems. But he made this rushed decision, it just seemed forced.
He could have walked away and killed him later without endangering himself, if he wanted to.

I guess the movie was too long anyway. Quentin had some problems with the end, but I don't know what they were.

http://www.craveonline.com/film/articles/192219-comic-con-2012-jamie-foxx-details-last-minute-django-rewrites

Call Me Wesley

(38,187 posts)
10. Django killed a guy in front of his kid (which age is not shown,)
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:52 PM
May 2013

just the 'Pa? Pa!' line. So there was actually no 'men in front of their children.' I'm not sure who's the one exaggerating right now, you or Tarantino.

The ending of the movie was about Django, not Schultz, and probably of blowing up the Southern mansion or not.

I still don't get why you think it was forced. I totally get it. He had to do it, and this was his chance to do it. He'd go down, too, but it was worth it. The fact of Candy reaching out his slimy hand left him no choice at this point.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
13. Quentin made sure they had no chance to kill Candie before, just after their cover was blown.
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:56 PM
May 2013

That would have been a good time to kill Candie, if not for the guns in their backs.

(One interesting thing in that scene is that DiCaprio really bleeds)

Schultz just stays there with all the time in the world and says: "Sorry, I couldn't resist", after he shoots Candie.
He could've walked away, but Candie insisted to shake his hand, so he killed him. And now he is standing there as a target and just waiting for the guy a couple of feet away from him, to draw his weapon and kill him.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
12. havent seen the original in years, my wife was wondering why an american slave would be called
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:43 PM
May 2013

Django, that part made no sense to her.

Baitball Blogger

(52,712 posts)
14. I take it that it's an entirely different story.
Mon May 13, 2013, 07:14 PM
May 2013

I went through three quarters of the trailer and did not see one guy.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
3. It was probably the movie I most enjoyed this year.
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:09 AM
May 2013

Just for the sheer delight. That ba--da--da--doing tooth.

And for giving me a reason to hate Leonardo DiCaprio other than his being obscenely beautiful....which isn't rational.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
6. I think I liked it even more than my Marine Corps spouse
Mon May 13, 2013, 09:41 AM
May 2013

...and Christoph Waltz is fantastic.

Call Me Wesley

(38,187 posts)
11. Quarantino's best.
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:56 PM
May 2013

If you ask me, a masterpiece, and he had the guts to go where no one has gone before.



That's where 'Roots,' had it gone that way, would have be cancelled ... Your history, right here.
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