Who is the most infamous person you've met?
I'll start:
I could have met Nixon when I was about 7, but I hid from him in our car. My cousin did not and there is a photo of Nixon, my 5 year old cousin and Nixon's golf caddy smiling at the camera. Lol. This was in San Clemente, California in the mid-70s.
I met G. Gordon Liddy after a lecture where he was a guest speaker for a college poli sci convention (I was an officer in the club that arranged the convention so we all had to meet/introduce the speakers); I met Bernie Goetz at a hamfest (amateur radio festival) - he saves and rehabilitates squirrels injured in various NYC parks; and met Oliver North at a northern Virginia CostCo. A good friend of ours worked in the Pentagon and we were shopping with him; he knows North and it was inescapable.
How about you?
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That is creepy. D: 
A good friend of the family hitch hiked from So. Cal. to Oregon in 69 or so. Her and her good friend and their two dogs. They ended up hitching a ride with Dennys manager (who was not happy to see they had two big dogs with them after he agreed to give them a ride) who was asking them why they didn't wear bras, wouldn't stop et al. They jumped out asap (it was night time in the mountains, very isolated) and hide till he left. She claimed he was possibly the same person who'd murdered a girl(s) with an axe.
He was looking for his ax apparently when Jackie and her friend were hiding. They'd taken it with them.
Second hand story, but I'm sure there is some truth in it. Scared us kids to death. 
living in Tallahassee, and I walked past his residence ("The Oaks"
EVERY DAY on my way to class. I have no idea whether I've actually met him, but I am certain I saw him a few times. I was his type -- long brown hair parted in the middle. (
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The dorm where he attacked those 4 girls was about a mile from my house. The student who was attacked in her own house lived about a quarter mile from the house where I lived with my female roommate.
When we woke up to the news that a killer was still loose, we were totally freaked out. The stores in Tallahassee were instantly sold out of guns, bullets, etc. You couldn't even get a dog from the pound, IIRC. It was a horrible time; very frightening.
Years later, when I read some of the techniques he used to pick up girls to murder, I shuddered. I would have totally fallen for some of them. (He used to wear a cast on his arm and ask you to help him put something in his VW -- then he'd bash you over the head and throw you in, too.)
Haven't met him but that would be the tops!
Fun story, after my divorce 12 years ago, I did some online dating, it starts with emails.
I happened to have tickets to see the Dalai Lama at the Shoreline Amphitheater (a venue for many events including music).
Asked by one "date" what I had planned for the weekend, I replied that I was going to see the Dalai Lama at the Shoreline.
She responded, "Oh, what kind of music do they play?"...
Needless to say, there was no date to follow.
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It's all just an act -- he was such a good ole boy I actually asked him, "Aren't you supposed to crouched in a corner hurling lighting bolts and pro-Satanic epithets at everyone?"
rocktivity
Glen Benton is a god of metal!!!!
Sheesh!!! 
He stiffed us for a lot of money. Plus I just always had a viscerally bad feeling around the guy.
He was pressing the flesh at the Journal Square PATH station one morning. I took the opportunity to say "You're a pig!" as I went down the escalator. 
1970 Alabama gubernatorial campaign. Hated him, but it
was a school assignment to attend the rally and write a report.
Even had to shake his hand. 
It was at a convention in Los Angeles.
...Your name wouldn't happen to be Forrest Gump, would it? Because that's a pretty cool list.
Saw him at B. Dalton in the mall on my birthday. He was so short he looked like a Larry King puppet.
Later that night, he aired the live Perot interview that launched his candidacy.
It was a meeting of the shortycakes.
...I did artwork for an underground comic book based on and endorsed by Leary - Timothy Leary Neuro Comics - Last Gasp, 1979.
The comic was instigated by George DiCaprio, who wrote the script for the book, based on Leary's writing.
So, infamous or not, I also know/worked with Leo's dad.
I also know, and have been weirdly associated with Aron Kay, the YIPPIE! Pieman. For example, I was his "official representative" at Jack Herer's memorial service.
(Search youtube: benedict arnold and the traitors death penalty for pot)
Plus, I knew Jack Herer - way before he died - when he was writing his famous "Emperor..." book, when he and me and we and McGee used to hang out with each other and others at my art studio in Pasadena CA, circa 1982-84.
In another area of "interest," right after the OJ Simpson "slow speed chase," I met Al Cowlings, at a garment manufacturing company I was freelancing for. That was creepy.
I have also met and conversed with El Duce of the Mentors - RIP - a fairly infamous early L.A. punk rock guy, often cited in "Curt Cobain was murdered by Courtney" conspiracy theories - when he used to hang out at the Cathay de Grande.
I also know the guy (I won't mention his name here) that ran the Los Angeles underground ("hippie" paper in the 60s, which ran Charles Manson's official statement after he and his cult gang were charged with the grisly Tate-La Bianca murders. The same statement from the paper was copied and used as the back cover art for Manson's "LIE" album, released by the Family and sold to raise money for The Manson Family defense fund.
I also knew a Psychic (aka charlatan) known as "Helias." One day in early 1978, he was called to consult Hustler Magazine publisher/pornographer/shit-stirrer Larry Flynt.
Helias told me he had to go to Georgia to "advise" Flynt, and he asked me if he could borrow my luggage for his flight.
This was one week before Flynt's assassination attempt, which left Flynt, well, all fucked up.
Helias returned from Georgia after (apparently, poorly) "psychically advising" Flynt, and I never got my luggage back.
Apparently, after that, Helias became a born-again, Psychic Debunker (aka charlatan), often appearing on the 700 Club.
I also knew, performed with, and own the former drums of the infamous drummer Dewey Martin of the Buffalo Springfield, RIP Dewey.
There are others...
...than the other weasel.
Oh, sure, there were those bodies, but She Who Shall Not Be Named trashed the whole country. I never would have expected it of her when I met her in 2006 when she was running for governor. She was pleasant and friendly, nothing like the harpy we all know and despise now. The fame got to her.
Jimmy, on the other hand, while interesting, did give off kind of a scary vibe. Essentially, I didn't want him to remember what I looked like. My hooker roommate, who was really quite sweet and very beautiful, had a habit of bringing around shady characters. One night she invited a bunch of bikers over to our house, telling them that she had three female roommates she wanted them to meet. The next thing we know, these biker outlaws all show up expecting to have their way with us. Problem being that I had brought home a bunch of guys that I ran into on the SF bus coming home from work who I had gone to high school with four years earlier, and I had invited them over, too. Chaos ensued, broken bones, smashed-in walls, a broken lease. As some people say, they "harshed my mellow."
Another chapter for my book. 
Dianne Feinstein, Willie Brown, et al., while working at City Hall in San Francisco.
The back story behind the November 27, 1978 shooting which never seems to have been covered, or be covered, in the MSM was that Dan White took a pay-off to vote in favor of re-zoning Pier 39 in favor of those who wanted to build restaurants and tourist attractions to compete with the nearby Fisherman's Wharf. He was told that he (in his wife's name) would receive the right to open a potato restaurant on Pier 39 if his votes and other votes went the right way. An underground newspaper had a curious reporter who went to the Recorder of Deeds, looked at some of the documents and uncovered the relationship between the future Pier 39 operators and White's wife. An embarrassed Dan White - who had a reputation as a straight arrow (unlike the always happy and smiling Willie Brown) - resigned and was then left jobless.
His Supervisor's pay wasn't very much. The position was a part-time one and the rumor was that the official salary was only in the $8,000 range. (It doesn't sound like much, but at the time you could buy a new car for less than half of that.) Except for George Moscone who was genuinely friendly and honest, and a few others, some of the Supervisors seemed to have friends who could help them with their investments, buy art work created by family members, etc. In the real world, it's called corruption. But the ticket is only good as long as a person held the title of "Supervisor."
When he resigned, it seemed that the future Pier 39 operators changed their mind. While being out of work with a tarnish reputation and with no opportunity to take money from tourists, White was desperate. Since George Moscone could appoint whoever he wanted to the open position, and since Moscone always seemed to be his friend and he had experience as a Supervisor, he somehow thought that he could convince the Mayor to re-appoint him. Bad thinking, probably influenced by good Scotch.
Then he went to City Hall and shot Moscone. Why did he shoot Milk? For one thing, at the Board of Supervisor's meetings, Harvey Milk used to entertain himself and part of the public by mocking Dan White in the meetings. On more than one occasion he would repeat Dan White's words as though they were silly in a mocking voice while smiling and moving his head from side to side. White apparently thought it was a rude thing to do.
I also knew White's attorney. The prosecutor was competent but overlooked what White's attorney was doing while selecting the jury. San Francisco is generally an open and tolerant city. White's attorney was purposely selecting those who did not share such views. The acceptance of the "Twinkie" defense was just a cover, an excuse, for their actions.
(2) A cousin of mine, Richard J. Daley. He started out in his career as a tax attorney, and he convinced me to go to law school and focus on tax law. I made enough money but did not have the political touch. Once, when I lost an election, I got him to laugh. He asked at a family gathering where I could have been embarrassed (or not), "Why did you lose?" Instead of giving a serious answer, I said with a straight face, "Not enough votes, mostly."
but just saying! LOL
I met Cheney when he was a member of the House and came onboard to observe a demo shoot on the SM2 MKII using AEGIS. He treated his aide (who was horribly sea-sick) like shit the whole time. No time for weakness in his world.
I was in charge of the CIC equipment, had to endure four hours with him seated right behind me, smoking away and taking occasional swigs from his flask or barking for coffee or grunting in response to other house members. (This was back when there were ash-cans installed as part of the consoles or crew seats).
He ignored the crew, showed no interest in the program (the reason he was out there) or the rest of us, and showed very respect to the C.O., according to the wardroom gossip. Just seemed bored the entire time, was the first off the ship as soon as we docked - heading for the nearest golf course, from what we were told.
Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. We were all just tools to him.
On edit, I also ran across him at an Engineering Officers conference back in the early 1990's when he was a speaker; I think he was SecDef at the time, or he had just stepped down or something. His ego had grown exponentially in the eight to ten years since the previous time I had experianced him.
I met Gen. Colin Powell at a commissioning party for the USS Keresarge (his wife was the sponsor) that our reserve unit attended. He was very personable, and his wife Alma was a sweet woman.
Haele
I grew up knowing John Erlichman's family. John's uncle was my Sunday school teacher for years. I was the same age at John's son and my mom photographed family portraits for them. I also went out with Wilt Chamberlain, smoked pot with Mason Williams (not infamous, though), and danced with James MacArthur (Book 'em Danno) in a club in Hawaii. Also when I worked in a T-shirt shop in Hawaii, I ironed Charlie Pride's money that he had forgotten to take out of his pocket when he went swimming, and I had a lovely conversataion with Lloyd Bridges while his wife was shopping in a different store (that was my favorite).
Spent about 45 minutes eating breakfast next to him one morning just by happenstance. I know his background and what he's done, but for the duration of that meal, he was a perfect gentleman to me, the servers, and everyone who badgered him for an autograph.
On edit: oh, and I also met Geddy Lee.
they certainly seem like a nice couple. Happy and well-adjusted.
Randall Terry, Don Treshman, Flip Benham, Shelley Shannon, the whole gang.
This was when I was working in court. They started protesting at the 1992 Republican convention in Houston and damaged the local Planned Parenthood offices. PP as plaintiffs in civil court got a temporary injunction and the civil trial was in 1994.
Just being in the same courtroom with them was quite creepy. I felt like I had post-traumatic stress from being in the same room with them. I never spoke to them individually as that was not my job. One woman testified that she was very proud of her 19 year old son, who had placed a Molotov cocktail (gasoline bottle bomb) in the attic space of an abortion clinic to destroy it. They caught him when he left his wallet at the scene of the crime. He was in Federal prison at the time.
Their lawyers were pretty incompetent in civil court as they were used to dealing with their clients in criminal charges.
One man, Don Treshman, was asked on the stand if his group condemned the murder of Dr. David Gunn in Florida, and clinic escorts. He said, "We neither condemn it nor condone it." You could almost see the jury slide out of their chairs in shock in the jury box. They talked about several abortion doctor/clinic murders in this way.
The defendants had flyers in evidence which told people what doctors' houses to go to on Sunday to picket, and bring the kids as it's a family activity. They planted crosses in one doctor's yard and the doctor's wife came out, ripped the crosses out of the ground, cursed at them, and went back in her house. These people literally could not use their driveways or get in or out of their houses.
Mr. Treshman also stated that as part of the advice in his newsletter, you could pour gasoline on the carpet, under the locked door of an abortion clinic, and that the carpet would wick the gasoline into the office so you could start a fire. Yet Mr. Treshman vehemently denied that he was promoting terrorism, no, sir, he was not advocating terrorism or destruction of property at all.
They also engaged in butyric acid attacks and lock gluing.
This is the Texas Supreme Court's opinion pretty much upholding the trial opinion, and first appellate opinion, actual and punitive damages and permanent injunctions, for plaintiffs including Planned Parenthood, and buffer zones, including around the physicians' homes:
Operation Rescue,et al.,Petitioners/Appellants v. Planned Parenthood of Southeast Texas, etal., Respondents/Appellees.
https://www.supreme.courts.state.tx.us/historical/1998/jul/970171o.htm
Horrific. I was only sitting in the trial three or four days. Truly did a mindfuck on me to come face to face with people who will murder for their ideology, especially in the name of God.
The judge in whose court this was decided in was defeated for re-election and replaced by a guy who insists on putting the ten commandments in his courtroom and can't understand why anybody would object to that.
Shocking. Shocking. 
with the kid who got John Walker Lindh into Islam.
He was (and probably still is) a nice person who is going to be on a list for the rest of his life. 
Famous ? Michelle Pfeiffer, 1989, while she was filming the Russia House in Moscow. I guess she was tired and/or tired of fans, because she wouldn't talk to me
When I was out west years ago some guys I was riding with wanted to go to one of his book signings so I tagged along with them and met Sonny while we were there. He was hilarious, cracking one liners the whole time. 
The first was Australian Member of Parliament who was actually the first politician I can remember meeting face-to-face. I met him at a function when I was 15 and I was initially very impressed. He was very friendly and encouraging of me as a young member of his political party
Less than a decade later, he was convicted and imprisoned for accepting bribes and sexual favors from Chinese immigrants in exchange for visas. What a lovely guy
Incidentally another person probably at that same function and definitely at other political functions I attended in subsequent years was another MP who seemed to be an up and coming rising star of his party. He represented an adjoining seat to the one where I lived. Surprisingly, I never met him face-to-face but I know he was at quite a few of the same functions I was at. Later, he was convicted and imprisoned for having sex with an underage boy, indecent assault and supplying heroin and cannibis. One of the teenagers he took advantage of sexually, he met at a political function like the ones I attended. Considering I was a teenager at the time, I might have had a lucky escape
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when I used to bicycle with friends thru the Santa Susana Pass road, we stopped at Spahn Ranch one time to get some water to drink, Manson invited me and my friends into the main house for a drink of water, was really polite and accomodating.
Here's a pic of Spahn Ranch in the Santa Susana Mountains.
I'm ashamed to say I voted for him numerous times in primaries and general elections, but that was before he went insane.
