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abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:43 PM Nov 2013

Just walked away from a head on car collision

Driving my kids to school. Car was spun around 360 degrees hit by a large pick up truck. We're all OK despite being shook up and minor bruising. Cuts on my nose from the air bag. I just want to say thank you to the humans who invented car seat belts, air bags, and child safety seats. And to those who lobbied to create laws requiring manufacturers, drivers and passengers to install and use them. Please always wear your seatbelt!

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Just walked away from a head on car collision (Original Post) abelenkpe Nov 2013 OP
I'm glad you're OK sharp_stick Nov 2013 #1
I'm delighted that you and your kids are OK! lunatica Nov 2013 #2
cant stress enough why you got to wear a seatbelt loli phabay Nov 2013 #3
GOVERNMENT-REQUIRED airbags zbdent Nov 2013 #4
But they are designed for unbelted drivers jakeXT Nov 2013 #7
I'm amazed that seatbelt use is still so low here. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #10
Glad to hear that everyone is ok. How are your avebury Nov 2013 #5
Yeah they are still reeling a bit abelenkpe Nov 2013 #12
Always buckle up HarveyDarkey Nov 2013 #6
Make sure everyone gets checked out - including x-rays - haele Nov 2013 #8
Getting them both checked out now abelenkpe Nov 2013 #13
I'm old enough to remember when they first required lap belts hvn_nbr_2 Nov 2013 #9
Every industry does that when new safety features are required sakabatou Nov 2013 #15
I remember this commercial Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #37
Glad you are okay! Yes -- hooray for safety features! Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #11
Good for you being alright sakabatou Nov 2013 #14
Amazingly I just missed being hit head on yesterday... Vietnameravet Nov 2013 #16
I always wear my seat belt because if you are ever stopped RebelOne Nov 2013 #17
Keep in mind zentrum Nov 2013 #18
I agree deutsey Nov 2013 #19
Couldn't sleep at all last night abelenkpe Nov 2013 #22
thank goodness you are ok. no, you are not going overboard. magical thyme Nov 2013 #24
No--not overboard zentrum Nov 2013 #28
Thank you so much! abelenkpe Nov 2013 #32
One more thing..... zentrum Nov 2013 #35
Survivor of one here Blue Owl Nov 2013 #20
Phew! Good to hear, nobody got hurt badly. Bet it was scary! benld74 Nov 2013 #21
Depending where you live, you may need new child safety seats TrogL Nov 2013 #23
Thank you! abelenkpe Nov 2013 #34
Find out what the law is in your area TrogL Nov 2013 #38
If the car is fixed Mopar151 Nov 2013 #25
Good to know! abelenkpe Nov 2013 #29
Thank god for government mandated safety features liberal N proud Nov 2013 #26
Two thoughts: Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #27
Thank you! abelenkpe Nov 2013 #30
How are you feeling today? 24 -48 hours later are when the worst of the injuries will ache riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #31
Scrap on my nose abelenkpe Nov 2013 #33
I'm glad you're all okay pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #36

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
1. I'm glad you're OK
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:45 PM
Nov 2013

and as a former ambulance driver I'll second your thanks for all the safety features of modern driving.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. I'm delighted that you and your kids are OK!
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:48 PM
Nov 2013

And I agree with you about all those life saving gadgets!

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
4. GOVERNMENT-REQUIRED airbags
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 03:54 PM
Nov 2013

which the auto industry makes it look like they did that out of the generosity of their hearts ...

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
7. But they are designed for unbelted drivers
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:37 PM
Nov 2013
In 1983, 14% of USA drivers used seat belts; more modern estimates5 put the figure at up to 60%. Although this figure is improving, USA airbags have had to be designed to protect both the belted and unbelted occupant. To achieve this, airbags inflate rapidly (50 ms) under high pressure to a volume of 70 litres. In contrast, UK (and Western European) fitted airbags are only designed to protect a belted occupant and inflate to 30 litres within the same time. This is in part attributable to seat belt use in the UK and Europe, which is estimated at 88%–91% (dependent on sex and age, R Cuerden, et al, IRCOBI Conference, 2001).

http://emj.bmj.com/content/19/6/490.full
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
10. I'm amazed that seatbelt use is still so low here.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:55 PM
Nov 2013

It speaks to the combination of idiocy, stubbornness, and egotism of Americans.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
5. Glad to hear that everyone is ok. How are your
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:05 PM
Nov 2013

children holding up post accident? It is horrible for you because you were probably so afraid for your children and it had to be so scary for them.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
12. Yeah they are still reeling a bit
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 05:13 PM
Nov 2013

Had to get in a car to take them for a check up just a bit ago and they were pretty nervous about it as you can imagine.

 

HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
6. Always buckle up
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:30 PM
Nov 2013

I don't even start my truck until everyone's seatbelt is fastened. Glad everyone got out (relatively) safely.

haele

(12,676 posts)
8. Make sure everyone gets checked out - including x-rays -
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:40 PM
Nov 2013

Kidlet (sitting in the front seat) developed bronchitis breathing in the dust from the air-bag explosion and Laz had a hairline crack in his shoulder and wrist from the seat belt and the steering wheel when they were hit from behind and rear-ended the pick-up in front of them.
Airbags use a small cap explosive to deploy, so there can be some carbon dust effect for kids that have a susceptibility to asthma.
It takes a few hours for the pain to kick in.

Haele

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
13. Getting them both checked out now
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 05:38 PM
Nov 2013

Thanks for the info on airbags. Always concerned about my sons lungs. I'll mention it to his doc. Thank you!

hvn_nbr_2

(6,488 posts)
9. I'm old enough to remember when they first required lap belts
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:44 PM
Nov 2013

All the American car companies were like Chicken Little, crying that requiring them to put seatbelts in cars was going to destroy the industry and put them all out of business and, OH my God! the sky is falling.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
11. Glad you are okay! Yes -- hooray for safety features!
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 04:55 PM
Nov 2013

Thank you consumer advocates, including Ralph Nader!

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
17. I always wear my seat belt because if you are ever stopped
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 05:50 PM
Nov 2013

by a policeman, you will be ticketed. One time I was stopped and had just unbuckled my seat belt because it was an automatic reflex when I stopped my car. The policeman asked if I had been wearing my seat belt. Fortunately, he did not ticket me. Even though I had run a red light, I was just ticketed for not having any proof of insurance. I did, but I was so nervous that I couldn't find the card in my wallet.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
18. Keep in mind
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 06:14 PM
Nov 2013

Had something just like this about 4 months ago. Please know that even though you're all okay---you're all still in a kind of shock. The psychological aftermath may take a while longer. It's not terrible--and you will get through it all intact--but this was a deep limbic event. Your kids may be more easily upset at all kinds of unrelated things for a couple of months (!). Sleep may be restless. You yourself may find that your body is remembering past fear situations. You'll be overly vigilant while driving.

All of it will pass away but know that the body and brain has to really work out that you are all truly safe again. It's not like the movies, where people go through traumas and then walk away an hour later making clever quips to each other.

Anyway, that was my experience. Best of full recovery to you.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
19. I agree
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 06:27 PM
Nov 2013

I didn't feel the full repercussions of the head-on I was in right away.

Once the adrenaline wore off, I felt very fatigued and could barely walk because I banged my knees pretty bad during the collision. A huge, nasty bruise formed days later across the stomach area where the seatbelt had been strapped across. I had lots of minor things develop in my chest and other areas later and I did become very introspective thinking about how I could've been killed or more seriously injured.

Like the guy in Monty Python and the Holy Grail who was turned into a newt, I got bettuh.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
22. Couldn't sleep at all last night
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:08 PM
Nov 2013

Neither could the kids. They tossed and turned and woke up several times. The accident happened right in front of our building. Top it off, the little old lady (84 years old) who lives on the bottom floor was hit crossing the road two weeks ago and is still in the hospital. Talking to my next door neighbors yesterday they said their father got in two accidents right out front in the past 15 years. Our street is a popular cut through and everyone drives too fast. I spent my sleepless hours looking up the best child safety seats, safest car and downloading information to start a petition to add speed humps to our block. Am I going overboard?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
24. thank goodness you are ok. no, you are not going overboard.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:34 PM
Nov 2013

If people are routinely speeding and causing that many accidents, then speed bumps will be a good thing. And takng action is a positive way to deal with the stress of recovering from the shock of the accident. So it is a win/win.

Once you are sure there are no fractures, you may want to treat yourself and the kidlets to some bodywork such as therapeutic massage or sacro-cranial work to help with the injuries caused by being torqued like that.

A few decades ago I hit a patch of black ice and wrapped my car around a telephone pole . A couple years later, I started missing periods for months at a time, whereas I had always been very regular. I also kept getting a numb spot in my back if I sat for too long.

Then I ran into a sacro-cranial therapist who worked on horses and their riders. While we were setting up an appointment, with absolutely no talk at that point about any of my issues, she reached around behind my back and gently pushed one vertebrae into place. I haven't had the numb spot recur since. When she was actually working on me she asked if I'd been in a bad car accident. I said yes. She knew the car had been hit on the passenger side by the way my body had been torqued. When I thought I was standing straight, my right hip was actually about 1/2 inch ahead of my left hip. About 6 weeks after she worked on me, my periods returned to their normal schedule. She thought the uneven pressures caused by my being slightly twisted was cutting off circulation in my abdomen.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
28. No--not overboard
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:03 PM
Nov 2013

Do it! It's a healthy response and will save lives and more trauma. There's wisdom in how you're coping.

About the accident---please be sure you're talking and journaling as much as you can about it or anything that attaches to it in your mind. I ended up making all kinds of life-shaping connections. Encourage the kids to draw. Unless you've been through something like this--it's hard to believe how long it takes and how far reaching it is.

Don't want to scare you about how long this takes---you will come out of it. Just be very very patient and honest. It shouldn't be repressed. Can't be rushed. The way out of this is through. It will happen.

Again--best to you and your family.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
32. Thank you so much!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:03 PM
Nov 2013

I'm only now getting a grasp on how much yesterday's events have changed things.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
35. One more thing.....
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:36 AM
Nov 2013

I think the advice you're getting here in these posts to get some bodywork is good advice. I didn't have such therapy---but I'm told it really helps the body release tension and trauma more quickly. So if you can do it---it will probably be very helpful and shorten the length of recovery.

(Just FYI--I discovered in hindsight that I was actually in shock for about 2 weeks. Not obvious to me at the time. Didn't have normal feelings about anything until the shock wore off. Then I got to all the rest over the next months.)

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
23. Depending where you live, you may need new child safety seats
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 02:14 PM
Nov 2013

My daughter's parked van was totaled by some out-of-control teenagers. Even though it was unoccupied at the time, the law here says all child car seats have to be replaced. Insurance covered it.

Mopar151

(9,997 posts)
25. If the car is fixed
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:08 PM
Nov 2013

Make sure the seatbelts are replaced, or PROPERLY inspected. Damage is likely to include some fusion of the webbing at the buckle - it's how Scandanavian accident investigators tell if seatbelts were in use or not.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
29. Good to know!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:37 PM
Nov 2013

That car is never going anywhere again though. But I'm researching new vehicles and if I get a used one perhaps this would be a sensible thing to do as well depending on it's history?

liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)
26. Thank god for government mandated safety features
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:14 PM
Nov 2013

Some today would say that the government has no place mandating such things.


The car companies didn't put those features in out of the goodness of their heart.


Sorry you had to experience an accident, good to hear you were able to walk away.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
27. Two thoughts:
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 04:53 PM
Nov 2013

1) as others have mentioned, PTSD is real. Keep an eye on yourself and your children and watch for signs. When I was in an accident 15 years ago, I walked away with minor injuries, but developed an almost paralyzing fear of driving. I sought help right away and got straightened out, but word to the wise - don't dismiss the symptoms.

2) no matter how you may be feeling right now, do not sign anything that the insurance company puts in front of you. Symptoms and problems can take a while to develop, and you don't want to sign away your rights to future treatment for you and your kids.

I'm glad you're okay and take care.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
30. Thank you!
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:52 PM
Nov 2013

I will keep your advice in mind. Pretty worried about my youngest. Been trying to distract her with humor and silliness. I've got a second appointment with her doctor for next week because it's time for her check up anyway. I'll be sure to mention any concerns then. Think I know what you mean. The idea of driving down our street right now is very frightening. That's why I want to try and get speed humps. Too many accidents have happened already. Thanks again!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
31. How are you feeling today? 24 -48 hours later are when the worst of the injuries will ache
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:59 PM
Nov 2013

Don't hesitate to get back to the doctor if anything is now flaring.

So scary.

So glad you all survived.


abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
33. Scrap on my nose
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:12 PM
Nov 2013

Is now two lovely black eyes. Guess the airbag was a bit more powerful than first thought. We all have bruises showing up all over. My son's is the perfect impression of his seat belt. Got an appointment to stop by the doc tomorrow just to make sure nose isn't broken. Saw the photos a neighbor took of the accident yesterday in an effort to document it. We are so very lucky!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
36. I'm glad you're all okay
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 01:23 AM
Nov 2013

In 1969 I witnessed a head-on on an Interstate with both vehicles traveling at 80-90 mph. At least 6 people, adults and kids, were thrown through the windshield of one car, and I was the first to reach the victims. That was a horrible experience.

More than a decade later I worked for passage of mandatory state child safety seat laws. My contribution was a study of kids in crashes, with recommendations to state governors and legislators for passage of laws. It was a federal agency study, "Child Passenger Protection Against. Death, Disability, and Disfigurement in Motor Vehicle Accidents." While the study was going on, my agency held three public hearings around the country to highlight the issue.

But I don't deserve any special any special thanks--I wasn't so special. There were a LOT of people working on the issue in those days. My rolodex for that project alone had 500-600 names in it, people all over the country working at every level of government and in safety orgs and law enforcement and medicine, etc. We knew that change was inevitable; it was just a matter of speeding it up. It was a privilege to be a small part of it.

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