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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWho is going to see Catching Fire this holiday season?
Saw it last night. Riveting. Solid cast. Big names. Great direction. Fast moving. Great costume and make-up!
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riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)fizzgig
(24,146 posts)i'm going to re-read the books first and wait for the crowds to thin out a bit.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)good movie overall, but I think I liked the first movie better.
I liked the second book the best of the series, though.
jmowreader
(50,530 posts)The movie would have been vastly improved by making the Victory Tour a series of quick cuts between the rebellion in the districts and Snow getting more and more pissed off, and leaving out almost all the dialogue on the train. Gary Ross described it as such: in a book you can have eight pages describing someone opening a door. It's fine for a book but it's death for a movie. I think they spent way too much time on Katniss and Peeta's love affair of convenience and too little on the Quarter Quell. I know this was the installment for 16-yo girls but come on, the crowd all knows Katniss loves Gale rather than Peeta. Do the tour in ten minutes, the party at Snow's house in fifteen, five minutes of Snow deciding to use previous Victors as this year's tributes, twenty minutes on pre-Games festivities and the rest of the two hours on the Games.
The other problem is a technical one: the Arena was shot on IMAX. When you shoot IMAX you consign yourself to overdubbing all your dialogue because the camera is very loud...and a movie that's completely overdubbed sounds like it was. The next two are apparently scheduled to be shot digitally because there's a lot of confined-space work in them; digital cameras are silent so this should be better.
It looks like the producers finally felt comfortable showing how Capitol citizens actually look...when the crowds accepted Effie and Cinna, it gave them permission to style everyone else in the Capitol that way.
In one of the next two they need to get a little deeper into why Snow is the way he is. The dude is Cthulhu with a kindly grandpa's veneer, and he may have skinned out a grandpa in front of grandpa's whole family to get that veneer. They kind of alluded to the self-inflicted wounds in his mouth...come on guys, movies based on books are good when they're a treat for people who memorized the books, excellent when they're a treat for people who read them once and brilliant when they're a treat for people who haven't read the books. This movie was somewhere between good and excellent. Take a couple of minutes and show Snow's Soviet purges, please.
Kudos to the filmmakers for not shooting in 3-d. They didn't have time, but the temptation to have weapons flung or shot into the audience would have been too great.
See the movie, but do so in the knowledge you'll wonder when they're going to get to the point more than once.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)I think the reveal on Snow is coming in the next movie. Remember, they broke up the third book into two movies...(whhhhhhhyyyy!) So there still is room for a lot of character development.
I'm getting a sense of Pru more in the movies than I did in the books. I think they needed to develop the special relationship between Gale and Katniss in this movie, to make sense of what comes next.
I plan to see this a second time, so I'll see if I can find the points where you thought it lagged. I'm just a major fan of Vi Neill so I enjoyed the sensory aspects of the make-up and costumes.
jmowreader
(50,530 posts)Do a real quick dissolve to a flashback of his poisoning his allies.
This is a rare one: a movie I would see in the theatre again. Normally I watch them once in the cinema then wait till it comes out on Blu-ray.
rug
(82,333 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Those movies don't interest me, although I love Jennifer Lawrence.
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)This one is like the "Empire Strikes Back" of the series. It's darker and things get more complicated.
I liked they stayed quite true to the book. But I imagine the 3rd one is going to get butchered in order to make it into two movies.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)If you recall, Effie was really self-centered throughout the book. She was upset about the quarter quell because she was about to lose her greatest achievement and status. But in the second movie she seemed to have a soul.
The third book really lost me because I didn't really have much a commitment to the secondary characters. I think they can pump up the romance between Joanna Mason & Finnick, for instance. Or, at least, do a better job of showing the unrequited love.
Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)Including the cliffhanger at the end. It raised a lot of questions that force you to go see the next movie. Overall, I liked it.