Chewing tobacco...what is the effect?

[blueamy66]

Curious to know...

[OriginalGeek]

1. Vomit

when I see it, anyway.

[valerief]

2. dirty mouth

[blueamy66]

3. Okay, other than those...

Does it give a high?

[Lars39]

4. Sometimes cancer.

Well, you asked.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Tobacco/smokeless

[blueamy66]

5. Got it!

Can someone tell me why people do it?

Don't need to hear anymore ill effects.

I'm asking because a friend is driving 40 miles to the next town to get pouches (wtf) cause they are sold out here in our town.

Thanks.

[sharp_stick]

7. Ahh yes pouches

little tiny packs of snuff instead of putting an actual pinch of the stuff between your cheek and gum. They were less messy but tasted just as bad.

[Taitertots]

8. Nicotine is addictive n/t

[Callmecrazy]

9. I would argue that...

But I'm not gonna hijack the thread.

[blueamy66]

11. Go ahead and hijack the thread.

nt

[blueamy66]

10. It must be, cause he's gone out at 11 at night to buy more.

I've never smoked a cigarette, so I don't get it.

Now alcohol, I get that.

[easychoice]

13. they are addicted to nicotine.

They absorb it through their lips ,gums.tongue and esophagus.
The problem is that it causes a lot of oral cancers per thousand.The actual chemical addiction lasts 3 days but the behavioral effects can cause extensive relapsing if the craving and triggers aren't identified and dealt with.

[rurallib]

29. I was told many years ago by a chewer that there is actually tiny bits of

fiberglass in each pouch to open the skin (lips, gums, cheeks) so the nicotine can get right into the system.

don't know if it is true, but I would not doubt it as sleazy as tobacco companies are.

[easychoice]

30. Well the mouth is real close to the brain so it gets there pretty fast anyway..

I am pretty sure those scumbags would load the packets with horse dung if it polished up their bottom line.
Maybe they do, it tastes like I would imagine horse dung tastes.
Also,I won't kiss a woman who chews.That's right out!!!

[sharp_stick]

6. It's very similar to smoking

you get the nicotine high and you don't have to light up.

but man the taste is foul. Growing up on a farm I had to try the stuff when I was a kid and everyone I knew seemed to use one form or another. Varieties we had around were usually either snuff (Copenhagen, Skoal) or actual chew (Beech Nut, Red Man).

I still remember the taste and smell vividly.

[blueamy66]

12. Do you know what kind of high?

I know my questions sound stupid....but I need to know...

[sharp_stick]

14. Just like smoking

Can induce a more relaxed feeling. Just do a search on nicotine effects for a surprisingly long list.

[blueamy66]

16. I've Googled....

just wanted a real person's opinion/insight

[easychoice]

15. there is no high

just a general feeling of well being because of a lack of craving.
Nicotine is worse than heroin where addiction is concerned.

[blueamy66]

17. Then why even start?

nt

[easychoice]

19. social pressure,just like smokin butts.

Susceptible personalities and all that.

[blueamy66]

20. I drink alcohol. I get a high from it.

I don't get a sense of well being.

He gives me shit for drinking but thinks that his pouches are just fine.

[easychoice]

22. most addicts are combative when they feel their addiction being threatened.

Like my whole family,lol.
Alcohol addiction and Nicotine addiction are two totally different cans of worms.

[blueamy66]

23. He brought it up.

I don't care that he chews.

I drink a bit.

He was the one that says that chewing is nothing like drinking.

Yeah, I'm not the one going out at 11 p.m., driving 40 miles, to get a can of beer...ya know?

[easychoice]

24. Yep!

he is seriously addicted.
Um,how often do you drink? Once or twice a month?

[blueamy66]

26. No, more than that.

nt

[easychoice]

31. well you may want to keep an eye on that going forward.

I went to the bars every friday or saturday night for 25 years and I didn't feel like it was an issue at all.I finally quit due to a congenital Liver issue that was diagnosed through a blood test.But I never craved it when I quit,I just stopped.

[blueamy66]

36. I know the risks/dangers....

My ex fiance has cirrhosis. I've cut down quite a bit.

[sharp_stick]

18. You can also

Get just as addicted to the stuff as smokers are to cigarettes.

[Phentex]

21. I got nauseated and a little dizzy...

and never touched it again!

[bigwillq]

25. My friend puked the first try he tried it

in high school. Don't think he's gone back to it, but he does smoke cigarettes. I've never tried chewing tobacco, but I do smoke.

Smoking gives me a relaxed feeling. If I don't have a smoke in like 10 or 12 hours or so, when I do light up again, I get a little dizzy.

[Capt. Obvious]

27. A wonderful high

[blueamy66]

28. thanks for the info

nt

[ailsagirl]

32. If you've got a strong stomach, go here...

Changes in the oral tissues cells have been seen as early as 10mins of placement of smokeless tobacco product in the mouth.

http://www.identalhub.com/article_effects-of-smokeless-tobacco-on-oral-tissues-327.aspx

[easychoice]

33. Yep! the stuff is horrifying...

no teeth,no gums,no jaw bone.
No Jaw Bone!!!
erg...

[ailsagirl]

34. ...

gruesome

[blueamy66]

37. Lovely....

I think he knows.

[Separation]

35. Lots of military chew and not smoke

Several reasons, smoking will eventually cause you to suck wind when running. If you are out in the field more than likely ya can't smoke at night because ya can see a lit cigarette from miles away with NVG's. Also ya can't smoke while flying anymore, so guys/gals will chew. Some pilots however will not let the aircrew and passengers chew, but that is rare.

[blueamy66]

38. Interesting.

nt

[JoeyT]

39. It will give you a slight buzz and the buzz lasts longer than the one from smoking.

What you're talking about upthread, the pouched snuff, is sort of a middle ground between the two. Loose snuff is stronger than pouched because there isn't really much in a pouch, so you tend to use more.

Even a heavy smoker can make themselves heartily sick with a big chunk of Copenhagen. (strongest kind) We're talking a staggering around unable to function until it wears off drunk. So I'm not sure where the idea that there isn't a high is coming from.

The first time I ever tried the stuff was on top of a steam tower in a No Tobacco mill (Before people cheer: That's a Koch brothers policy to keep the employees paranoid about one another) when I still smoked heavily. A good chunk of Copenhagen later, and I was too fucked up to climb the 200 feet back down the ladders to get off it.

So it's like super cigarettes, only you're not giving the people around you cancer.

[blueamy66]

41. Hmmm....

Thanks for the information.

Super cigarettes...

[sweetapogee]

40. I had a roomie

in college that was a "professional" tobacco chewer. This guy could sit through an entire 90 minute lecture without spitting. From Monday morning to Friday afternoon, he would go through a case (10 bags) of Mail Pouch. Sometimes he would run out before Friday.

So I asked him the same question as the OP. He told me and this is my advice, just try it. Get some Beech Nut (candy he called it) and give it whirl. Just don't swollow any of the juce, that will kill you.

First try is say 2 minutes. You will not get addicted to it. I used up my pouch over the course of a few weeks and suffered no lasting ill effects at all. I do think it is foul to do in public and I'ts not for me overall.

A good medium to full strength handrolled cigar on the other hand, will leave you weak in the knees.

[blueamy66]

42. I find the pouches that he sometimes doesn't discard foul.

nt

[LynneSin]

43. My uncle chewed that stuff for decades

My uncle, who passed away a few years back, had part of his jaw and tongue removed.

[KamaAina]

44. Ask Tony Gwynn

oh, right, he just died from cancer because of it.

[blueamy66]

45. I loved Tony

But you know that's not what I was asking...

[astral]

46. It'll clear out your intestinal parasites. NT

[yellowdogintexas]

47. Bee stings (and related stings) the one good use for it

if you chew up some tobacco and make it into a sort of poultice, it will draw the inflammation right out of a bee wasp or hornet sting. My dad would just break off part of a cigarette and chew it up and put it on our stings. It really works.

[blueamy66]

48. Wow.

That's good to know!