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I Want You to Want Me!!! (Original Post) LynneSin Sep 2014 OP
Oh. Aristus Sep 2014 #1
Well, um, gee... I don't know what to say. malthaussen Sep 2014 #2
Wow - thanks for the buzzkill LynneSin Sep 2014 #5
obviously Cheap_Trick Sep 2014 #3
Desiring to be desired by another - the desire of desire aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2014 #4

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
2. Well, um, gee... I don't know what to say.
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 11:53 AM
Sep 2014

I'll try and see if I can work you into my schedule.

In the mean time, I'll drive you crazy with this one:



Soft rock! Soft rock!

-- Mal

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
4. Desiring to be desired by another - the desire of desire
Tue Sep 2, 2014, 12:41 PM
Sep 2014

The transcendence of desire. Supposedly in Hegel, it's the recognition that other living things are not just objects to be used or consumed (animal desire) but that others are also desiring subjects and the recognition of the importance to be desired by them (human desire) that is at the basis of human consciousness as a subject and object and of his/her place in society and civilization. From Alexandre Kojeve in his Introduction To The Reading Of Hegel


“…Man can appear on earth only within a herd. That is why the human reality can only be social. But for the herd to become a society, multiplicity of Desires is not sufficient by itself; in addition, the Desires of each member of the herd must be directed - or potentially directed - toward the Desires of the other members. […] antropogenetic Desire is different from animal Desire (which produces a natural being, merely living and having only a sentiment of its life) in that it is directed, not toward a real, ‘positive,’ given object, but toward another Desire. Thus, in the relationship between man and woman, for example, Desire is human only if the one desires, not the body, but the Desire of the other; if he wants ‘to possess’ or ‘to assimilate’ the Desire taken as Desire - that is to say, if he wants to be ‘desired’ or ‘loved,’ or, rather, ‘recognized’ in his human value, in his reality as a human individual.”

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