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KMOD

(7,906 posts)
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:34 AM Jan 2015

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I appreciate your musical offerings! Lars39 Jan 2015 #1
It does take some effort to break through and establish friends on DU since there is a problem with TexasTowelie Jan 2015 #2
Did not realize DU was for making friends! Helen Borg Jan 2015 #13
May not be "what it's for," but it certainly happens. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #19
yeah, there are cliques, Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2015 #3
you want I should kick your clique-identifying ass, KMOD? Skittles Jan 2015 #4
The number of times F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #6
you want I should kick your ass, F4lconF16? Skittles Jan 2015 #9
Put 'em up! F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #12
when I enlisted, women were not even allowed in the academies Skittles Jan 2015 #16
I know, right? cwydro Jan 2015 #43
Please don't stop posting. bravenak Jan 2015 #5
Agreed 1step Jan 2015 #7
There do seem to be long-term posters who are suspicious of everybody... MadDAsHell Jan 2015 #8
You probably picked up people on their guard. There's been lots of trolls of late... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #10
I always like your posts KMOD. lovemydog Jan 2015 #11
Meta! Iggo Jan 2015 #14
Most definitely. tblue Jan 2015 #15
I meant to respond to your "Who do you people think I am?" post ... betsuni Jan 2015 #17
"purely out of spite" OrwellwasRight Jan 2015 #30
Do you frequently perceive people as being cliquey? vlyons Jan 2015 #18
I didn't find DU until late 2008 magical thyme Jan 2015 #20
Agreed. There's days when its hard on long term posters too riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #21
Just act like you don't care whether or not people like you My Good Babushka Jan 2015 #22
the thing is Phentex Jan 2015 #34
Long-time DUers can post "Bweh?" and get 300 recs 1step Jan 2015 #23
And it's not just long time DUers OrwellwasRight Jan 2015 #31
Boring posts with lots of recs My Good Babushka Jan 2015 #35
Not sure what you mean? OrwellwasRight Jan 2015 #39
Hey, KMOD, Aloha.. I'm glad I caught your OP to see how you were feeling about it here. I would Cha Jan 2015 #24
Thanks for posting this instead of just disappearing. brer cat Jan 2015 #25
Don't go away. Borchkins Jan 2015 #26
It just takes awhile to get "noticed" around here. femmocrat Jan 2015 #27
Okay, maybe I've missed out on something. That does happen, things go right over my head...but Fla Dem Jan 2015 #28
Wanna join my clique?--I'm the only one in it so far..... panader0 Jan 2015 #29
Just post. You'll find your DU niche. Tobin S. Jan 2015 #32
You CANNOT judge anything by the number of replies. Ever. One of Du's most beloved... Phentex Jan 2015 #33
i was going to say it's better than it used to be fizzgig Jan 2015 #36
I'm so clueless that it all just goes right over my head anyway. dawg Jan 2015 #37
Good post. cwydro Jan 2015 #44
I guess I'm foolish in my old age, elleng Jan 2015 #38
You've already gotten the coveted threat of an ass kicking. Just post and "let it go" UTUSN Jan 2015 #40
Yeah, I sometimes wonder Jamaal510 Jan 2015 #41
I've been here for years. cwydro Jan 2015 #42
Thanks KMOD Jan 2015 #45

Lars39

(26,540 posts)
1. I appreciate your musical offerings!
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:55 AM
Jan 2015

I love to explore and find new music. As someone who only gets a response to about every 20th post, I understand your frustration.

TexasTowelie

(127,350 posts)
2. It does take some effort to break through and establish friends on DU since there is a problem with
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:59 AM
Jan 2015

trolls on DU. I made my mark initially by posting within the Texas group and spread out from there.

It also helps if you share some information about yourself so you might want to include some vitals about yourself within your profile. It doesn't have to get personal--race, gender and approximate age are usually good starts. I would not include any information that you don't want to share because the trolls out there will use that information against you.

That said, I have been surprised at how friendly some of the people here at DU are. I was going through some very troubling times during the first half of last year and the support from DU was amazing. If you find someone who you admire, then send them a DU mail and let them know. It might serve as an ice-breaker.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
13. Did not realize DU was for making friends!
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:08 AM
Jan 2015

Perhaps that is why I'm not disappointed? ...

Pacifist Patriot

(25,212 posts)
19. May not be "what it's for," but it certainly happens.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 08:50 AM
Jan 2015

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
3. yeah, there are cliques,
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 04:07 AM
Jan 2015

But you can rise above them. In doing so, you'll make a new bunch of friends that also don't like clique mentality.

Skittles

(171,715 posts)
4. you want I should kick your clique-identifying ass, KMOD?
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 04:30 AM
Jan 2015

I'D DO THAT FOR YOU MY SWEET

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
6. The number of times
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 04:49 AM
Jan 2015

That I saw posters threaten to call you and schedule an ass-kicking before I had any idea who you were

it was very properly intimidating

Skittles

(171,715 posts)
9. you want I should kick your ass, F4lconF16?
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 05:10 AM
Jan 2015

I used to kick F16 pilot ass when I was USAF enlisted

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
12. Put 'em up!
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 05:42 AM
Jan 2015


I hear tell that you're not an official member of DU until you've had your ass kicked by Skittles at least once, so lets go!

What did you fly?

Skittles

(171,715 posts)
16. when I enlisted, women were not even allowed in the academies
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:38 AM
Jan 2015

they've come a long way baby

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
43. I know, right?
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jan 2015

KMOD has made it into Du and doesn't even know it.

Skittles has never threatened to kick my ass.

Wake up OP!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
5. Please don't stop posting.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 04:45 AM
Jan 2015
 

1step

(380 posts)
7. Agreed
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 05:01 AM
Jan 2015

Most definitely.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
8. There do seem to be long-term posters who are suspicious of everybody...
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 05:05 AM
Jan 2015

And they're so paranoid and obsessed about possible trolls that they do pretty much run off most new posters.

Just 2 cents from a long-time lurker who, after registering, fairly quickly realized why most stick to lurking.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. You probably picked up people on their guard. There's been lots of trolls of late...
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 05:12 AM
Jan 2015

No surprise between the cops shooting black males like its free and the gun rampages and the expected mid-term gloating by right wingers.

I always tell people that the Internet is a very hostile place.

Want proof?

I'm here.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
11. I always like your posts KMOD.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 05:13 AM
Jan 2015

I agree with you on this one too.

I don't know why so many jump down each other's throats. Fuck that paranoia.

We have nothing to fear but fear itself. FDR said that.

Happy new year.

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
14. Meta!
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:14 AM
Jan 2015

tblue

(16,350 posts)
15. Most definitely.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:34 AM
Jan 2015

I haven't cracked the code either. Doesn't really matter or change anything for me. I don't expect or expose enough of my personal details to make friends on any website, nor would I want to. But don't feel too alone or sad if people aren't as open as you'd like. Online personalities are not necessarily anything like the people they represent so you really never know who or what you're dealing with.

In any case, I'll be your friend!

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
17. I meant to respond to your "Who do you people think I am?" post ...
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 07:18 AM
Jan 2015

because I felt exactly the same way (sorry, I'm lazy and did not). I couldn't believe how mean people here were to me at first, was sure they were mistaking me for someone else, someone bad. I know there are lots of trolls here, but have some proof first, man. I became paranoid, felt I should preface every comment with, "Please don't hurt me, this is just a sentence or two and there's no hidden meaning, no agenda, I am on your side." But of course that would be suspicious because trolls are adept at sucking up to people, so ... you can't win. I'm afraid I hold a grudge or two.

It's vexing to get few or no replies to OPs, I know. In small groups it's fine, but in a group with so many members it's discouraging. In real life nobody likes me, though, so no surprise nobody online likes me either. I continue to post things online purely out of spite.

OrwellwasRight

(5,312 posts)
30. "purely out of spite"
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jan 2015

Love it! Me too, dammit!

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. Do you frequently perceive people as being cliquey?
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 08:10 AM
Jan 2015

Did you get snubbed in high school by the in crowd? You have a hyper-sensitivity to perceiving people as excluding you. Your perception is completely subjective -- as is every one else's for that matter. But the marvelous way that the mind works is that you can change your point of view and attitude about your perceptions. Not once has it ever occurred to me that DU is "cliquey." Yes I have observed some folks are very friendly and have ongoing in-jokes for years here. But I never feel "left out," because my assumption is that I belong just as much as any one else. Stop trying so hard to "fit in," and assume that you already do. Choose to change your point of view.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
20. I didn't find DU until late 2008
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:01 AM
Jan 2015

and while there are cliques here, as well as some afraid of trolls and cyber-stalkers, I found there are also people who are open to newbies.

So just keep hanging in, hang out with those that are open, and don't worry about the cliques. It's the same thing in the real world; some people never really left high school.

I like you KMOD and appreciate your perspective and everything you bring to the table!

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
21. Agreed. There's days when its hard on long term posters too
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:11 AM
Jan 2015

Because of the cliques.

Keep on keeping on however. You're voice is welcome here by me!



My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
22. Just act like you don't care whether or not people like you
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:19 AM
Jan 2015

that makes you cool.

like me, I'm cool.

Phentex

(16,709 posts)
34. the thing is
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:41 PM
Jan 2015

you ARE cool. And already a lounge staple.

 

1step

(380 posts)
23. Long-time DUers can post "Bweh?" and get 300 recs
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:21 AM
Jan 2015

Newbs can lay out a full socioeconomic platform for the transformation of the country and get no response whatsover.

This thread of yours should be in GT, KMOD!

OrwellwasRight

(5,312 posts)
31. And it's not just long time DUers
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:06 PM
Jan 2015

Last edited Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:11 PM - Edit history (2)

It's ones with post counts of 50, 60, 70 K.

I've been here since 2004. And my post in GD drop like stones.

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
35. Boring posts with lots of recs
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 02:36 PM
Jan 2015

are still boring posts, though.
It's not worth getting all tore up over it.

OrwellwasRight

(5,312 posts)
39. Not sure what you mean?
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jan 2015

Only boring posts don't get discussions going? I don't agree.

Sure, some OPs fail because they are boring. Others just don't attract the attention because they are posted by someone without a huge following.

But yes, you just have to learn to live with it if you want to stay on DU.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
24. Hey, KMOD, Aloha.. I'm glad I caught your OP to see how you were feeling about it here. I would
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 09:56 AM
Jan 2015

have wondered where you'd gone to. It's such a big place, though.. sometimes it takes a bit to realize.. hey, I haven't seen KMOD in awhile! I still wonder what happened to Texas4obama? She use to post all the time.. the best things and poof.. gone!

Anyway, hope you think about posting still.. I'd miss ya! clique hug)



brer cat

(27,587 posts)
25. Thanks for posting this instead of just disappearing.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 10:34 AM
Jan 2015

I hope you will hang in here. You will be missed if you stop posting.

Borchkins

(735 posts)
26. Don't go away.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 10:42 AM
Jan 2015

I've been lurking for years. It's not a bad thing.
B

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
27. It just takes awhile to get "noticed" around here.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:28 AM
Jan 2015

I didn't even realize you were "new" until I just looked at your post count. I thought you had been posting for a long time! I never sensed that you did not feel welcome.

The answer---really--- is to post more, not less. I don't click on music links, but have enjoyed seeing your posts and hope you will continue to visit the Lounge.

Over the years, I have seen "cliques" come and go. Honestly, I see far LESS of that kind of activity in the past couple of years. Some posters do know each other outside of DU, but most just show up here, check in, say a few words, and go back to their daily lives. Please don't take it personally or give up!

Fla Dem

(27,633 posts)
28. Okay, maybe I've missed out on something. That does happen, things go right over my head...but
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:41 AM
Jan 2015

where are these cliques? Where do they hang out; at the local soda shoppe? Do they have a secret password or hand shake? Is it the cute boys and girls, or the cheerleaders and football players? Or maybe it's a clique of the really smart kids and they can't tolerate anyone with an IQ below 130.

I know there are a number of people, the really high volume posters, or those on everyday, or those who have a specific political or social philosophy/agenda, or those that just make nice comments and bring a smile to the table. You get to know them and in some cases I guess bonds are made. And perhaps those I speak of get a larger share of the responses. Although I have found that if you post a good, thoughtful OP, people will respond.

But I've never felt excluded from a discussion. I get my share of responses to comments I post. Overall I find DU to be a rather welcoming forum, except during presidential elections, then you better be for the right candidate or put on your helmet and prepare for battle.

I'm sorry if you have felt unappreciated. Do give us a second chance.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
29. Wanna join my clique?--I'm the only one in it so far.....
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 11:55 AM
Jan 2015

Tobin S.

(10,420 posts)
32. Just post. You'll find your DU niche.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:41 PM
Jan 2015

I have found that a lot of the time when your threads get a lot of attention it is because people are fighting in them. I'll take a three response thread in the lounge any day over a 300 post barn burner in GD.

I noticed that you have been posting a lot of music threads. People usually do not respond much to music threads from anyone, especially if it's mainly just a Youtube video. It's not just you.

Phentex

(16,709 posts)
33. You CANNOT judge anything by the number of replies. Ever. One of Du's most beloved...
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 01:39 PM
Jan 2015

is someone we lost just about a year ago (Middlefingermom). He posted almost to the point of spamming nearly every day. He would make us laugh. He made us think. He was the king of Photoshop. And he was one of a kind.

Every once in a while, he'd get his feelings hurt because he'd get only a few or no replies to some of his threads. I'd give him a hard time about it sometimes because he often didn't post very many replies himself to other people's posts. Plus, I knew people read his posts. We would miss them when he was too sick to post or when he took a little break. And when we did lose him, people came out from everywhere to post their feelings of loss. He was a DU treasure. Point being, he got many a goose egg on some of his posts.

I know people read more than post and I think that's natural. I think it would be impossible to reply to every post we read. So if you are only going to post with the intention of getting replies, you will probably feel disappointed. But it doesn't mean people aren't reading and getting to know you.

And while it may seem cliquish, I think it's better than it used to be. There was a time when people were called out by name in the threads and then you really felt like conversations were being had in front of you but not with you. I haven't seen that very much lately.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
36. i was going to say it's better than it used to be
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 02:46 PM
Jan 2015

the lounge was really a miserable place there for awhile. i stopped really participating because i didn't know what shit i was stepping in when i'd reply to an innocuous-seeming thread.

dawg

(10,777 posts)
37. I'm so clueless that it all just goes right over my head anyway.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 02:55 PM
Jan 2015
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
44. Good post.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 04:11 PM
Jan 2015

Yes.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
38. I guess I'm foolish in my old age,
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:04 PM
Jan 2015

I did understand 'cliques' when I was in high school, was a member, but don't get it here at DU. I respond when interested in a post, often say 'hi,' and go on. Friendliness? Dunno, interest in subject matter is more like it. Please stay, KMOD, as some of yours have been interesting to me, as I recall. (Keep in mind my memory may not be as good as that of others!)

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
40. You've already gotten the coveted threat of an ass kicking. Just post and "let it go"
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:18 PM
Jan 2015

The way the sun, rain, and music fall on everybody alike!1

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
41. Yeah, I sometimes wonder
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:25 PM
Jan 2015

why my threads always sink like stones in the Lounge and in GD while other threads of similar (or lesser) quality get more attention, and maybe cliquishness is why. It's odd because I've been on here for almost 3 years now, so I'm not new. In fact, I wasn't mentioned once in the GD's poster appreciation thread from early last year, despite having over 5K posts in over two years and despite getting replies to my comments regularly. I wonder if I need to get into more arguments here.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
42. I've been here for years.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:45 PM
Jan 2015

I'm not in any clique.

I've met great folks on DU. Some of whom are friends now.

When I post OPs - lol, most times they sink like a stone. Sometimes not.

Don't take it personally.

DU peeps are good peeps on the whole.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
45. Thanks
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 04:18 PM
Jan 2015

It's not about rec's, it's about dialogue. It can be very uncomfortable discussing topics.

Anyway, it's not a big deal, I just think I'm more comfortable lurking, that's all.

xoxo

KMOD

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