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Lars39
(26,540 posts)I love to explore and find new music. As someone who only gets a response to about every 20th post, I understand your frustration.
TexasTowelie
(127,350 posts)trolls on DU. I made my mark initially by posting within the Texas group and spread out from there.
It also helps if you share some information about yourself so you might want to include some vitals about yourself within your profile. It doesn't have to get personal--race, gender and approximate age are usually good starts. I would not include any information that you don't want to share because the trolls out there will use that information against you.
That said, I have been surprised at how friendly some of the people here at DU are. I was going through some very troubling times during the first half of last year and the support from DU was amazing. If you find someone who you admire, then send them a DU mail and let them know. It might serve as an ice-breaker.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Perhaps that is why I'm not disappointed? ...
Pacifist Patriot
(25,212 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)But you can rise above them. In doing so, you'll make a new bunch of friends that also don't like clique mentality.
Skittles
(171,715 posts)I'D DO THAT FOR YOU MY SWEET
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)That I saw posters threaten to call you and schedule an ass-kicking before I had any idea who you were
it was very properly intimidating
Skittles
(171,715 posts)I used to kick F16 pilot ass when I was USAF enlisted
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)
I hear tell that you're not an official member of DU until you've had your ass kicked by Skittles at least once, so lets go!
What did you fly?
Skittles
(171,715 posts)they've come a long way baby
cwydro
(51,308 posts)KMOD has made it into Du and doesn't even know it.
Skittles has never threatened to kick my ass.
Wake up OP!
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Most definitely.
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)And they're so paranoid and obsessed about possible trolls that they do pretty much run off most new posters.
Just 2 cents from a long-time lurker who, after registering, fairly quickly realized why most stick to lurking.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)No surprise between the cops shooting black males like its free and the gun rampages and the expected mid-term gloating by right wingers.
I always tell people that the Internet is a very hostile place.
Want proof?
I'm here.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I agree with you on this one too.
I don't know why so many jump down each other's throats. Fuck that paranoia.
We have nothing to fear but fear itself. FDR said that.
Happy new year.
tblue
(16,350 posts)I haven't cracked the code either. Doesn't really matter or change anything for me. I don't expect or expose enough of my personal details to make friends on any website, nor would I want to. But don't feel too alone or sad if people aren't as open as you'd like. Online personalities are not necessarily anything like the people they represent so you really never know who or what you're dealing with.
In any case, I'll be your friend!
betsuni
(29,078 posts)because I felt exactly the same way (sorry, I'm lazy and did not). I couldn't believe how mean people here were to me at first, was sure they were mistaking me for someone else, someone bad. I know there are lots of trolls here, but have some proof first, man. I became paranoid, felt I should preface every comment with, "Please don't hurt me, this is just a sentence or two and there's no hidden meaning, no agenda, I am on your side." But of course that would be suspicious because trolls are adept at sucking up to people, so ... you can't win. I'm afraid I hold a grudge or two.
It's vexing to get few or no replies to OPs, I know. In small groups it's fine, but in a group with so many members it's discouraging. In real life nobody likes me, though, so no surprise nobody online likes me either. I continue to post things online purely out of spite.
OrwellwasRight
(5,312 posts)Love it! Me too, dammit!
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Did you get snubbed in high school by the in crowd? You have a hyper-sensitivity to perceiving people as excluding you. Your perception is completely subjective -- as is every one else's for that matter. But the marvelous way that the mind works is that you can change your point of view and attitude about your perceptions. Not once has it ever occurred to me that DU is "cliquey." Yes I have observed some folks are very friendly and have ongoing in-jokes for years here. But I never feel "left out," because my assumption is that I belong just as much as any one else. Stop trying so hard to "fit in," and assume that you already do. Choose to change your point of view.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)and while there are cliques here, as well as some afraid of trolls and cyber-stalkers, I found there are also people who are open to newbies.
So just keep hanging in, hang out with those that are open, and don't worry about the cliques. It's the same thing in the real world; some people never really left high school.
I like you KMOD and appreciate your perspective and everything you bring to the table!
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Because of the cliques.
Keep on keeping on however. You're voice is welcome here by me!
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)that makes you cool.
like me, I'm cool.
Phentex
(16,709 posts)you ARE cool. And already a lounge staple.
1step
(380 posts)Newbs can lay out a full socioeconomic platform for the transformation of the country and get no response whatsover.
This thread of yours should be in GT, KMOD!
OrwellwasRight
(5,312 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 4, 2015, 03:11 PM - Edit history (2)
It's ones with post counts of 50, 60, 70 K.
I've been here since 2004. And my post in GD drop like stones.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)are still boring posts, though.
It's not worth getting all tore up over it.
OrwellwasRight
(5,312 posts)Only boring posts don't get discussions going? I don't agree.
Sure, some OPs fail because they are boring. Others just don't attract the attention because they are posted by someone without a huge following.
But yes, you just have to learn to live with it if you want to stay on DU.
Cha
(319,076 posts)have wondered where you'd gone to. It's such a big place, though.. sometimes it takes a bit to realize.. hey, I haven't seen KMOD in awhile! I still wonder what happened to Texas4obama? She use to post all the time.. the best things and poof.. gone!
Anyway, hope you think about posting still.. I'd miss ya!
clique hug)
brer cat
(27,587 posts)I hope you will hang in here. You will be missed if you stop posting.
Borchkins
(735 posts)I've been lurking for years. It's not a bad thing.
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femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I didn't even realize you were "new" until I just looked at your post count. I thought you had been posting for a long time! I never sensed that you did not feel welcome.
The answer---really--- is to post more, not less. I don't click on music links, but have enjoyed seeing your posts and hope you will continue to visit the Lounge.
Over the years, I have seen "cliques" come and go. Honestly, I see far LESS of that kind of activity in the past couple of years. Some posters do know each other outside of DU, but most just show up here, check in, say a few words, and go back to their daily lives. Please don't take it personally or give up!
Fla Dem
(27,633 posts)where are these cliques? Where do they hang out; at the local soda shoppe? Do they have a secret password or hand shake? Is it the cute boys and girls, or the cheerleaders and football players? Or maybe it's a clique of the really smart kids and they can't tolerate anyone with an IQ below 130.
I know there are a number of people, the really high volume posters, or those on everyday, or those who have a specific political or social philosophy/agenda, or those that just make nice comments and bring a smile to the table. You get to know them and in some cases I guess bonds are made. And perhaps those I speak of get a larger share of the responses. Although I have found that if you post a good, thoughtful OP, people will respond.
But I've never felt excluded from a discussion. I get my share of responses to comments I post. Overall I find DU to be a rather welcoming forum, except during presidential elections, then you better be for the right candidate or put on your helmet and prepare for battle.
I'm sorry if you have felt unappreciated. Do give us a second chance.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Tobin S.
(10,420 posts)I have found that a lot of the time when your threads get a lot of attention it is because people are fighting in them. I'll take a three response thread in the lounge any day over a 300 post barn burner in GD.
I noticed that you have been posting a lot of music threads. People usually do not respond much to music threads from anyone, especially if it's mainly just a Youtube video. It's not just you.
Phentex
(16,709 posts)is someone we lost just about a year ago (Middlefingermom). He posted almost to the point of spamming nearly every day. He would make us laugh. He made us think. He was the king of Photoshop. And he was one of a kind.
Every once in a while, he'd get his feelings hurt because he'd get only a few or no replies to some of his threads. I'd give him a hard time about it sometimes because he often didn't post very many replies himself to other people's posts. Plus, I knew people read his posts. We would miss them when he was too sick to post or when he took a little break. And when we did lose him, people came out from everywhere to post their feelings of loss. He was a DU treasure. Point being, he got many a goose egg on some of his posts.
I know people read more than post and I think that's natural. I think it would be impossible to reply to every post we read. So if you are only going to post with the intention of getting replies, you will probably feel disappointed. But it doesn't mean people aren't reading and getting to know you.
And while it may seem cliquish, I think it's better than it used to be. There was a time when people were called out by name in the threads and then you really felt like conversations were being had in front of you but not with you. I haven't seen that very much lately.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)the lounge was really a miserable place there for awhile. i stopped really participating because i didn't know what shit i was stepping in when i'd reply to an innocuous-seeming thread.
dawg
(10,777 posts)
elleng
(141,926 posts)I did understand 'cliques' when I was in high school, was a member, but don't get it here at DU. I respond when interested in a post, often say 'hi,' and go on. Friendliness? Dunno, interest in subject matter is more like it. Please stay, KMOD, as some of yours have been interesting to me, as I recall. (Keep in mind my memory may not be as good as that of others!)
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)The way the sun, rain, and music fall on everybody alike!1
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)why my threads always sink like stones in the Lounge and in GD while other threads of similar (or lesser) quality get more attention, and maybe cliquishness is why. It's odd because I've been on here for almost 3 years now, so I'm not new. In fact, I wasn't mentioned once in the GD's poster appreciation thread from early last year, despite having over 5K posts in over two years and despite getting replies to my comments regularly. I wonder if I need to get into more arguments here.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I'm not in any clique.
I've met great folks on DU. Some of whom are friends now.
When I post OPs - lol, most times they sink like a stone. Sometimes not.
Don't take it personally.
DU peeps are good peeps on the whole.
It's not about rec's, it's about dialogue. It can be very uncomfortable discussing topics.
Anyway, it's not a big deal, I just think I'm more comfortable lurking, that's all.
xoxo
KMOD