The Walking Dead 5.16 "Conquer" Season Finale (Spoiler Alert)

[NewJeffCT]

DVR Alert - the finale is 90 minutes vs the normal 60.

Daryl finds trouble while on a run; Rick and the group feel like outsiders in Alexandria, where trouble approaches the gates.

[hlthe2b]

1. IRL, Daryl sold his Atlanta house, triggering an unfortunate rumour....

I will not be able to watch TWD if they kill off Daryl! OMG!

Someone please convince me that they wouldn't?!

[NewJeffCT]

2. To quote Game of Thrones

Valar Morghulis (All Men Must Die)

[didact]

171. Valar dohaeris

ya

[Joe Shlabotnik]

8. I think I recall Emily Kinney doing the same last summer.

[NewJeffCT]

17. Norman Reedus talks prep for his death

http://www.inquisitr.com/1964978/norman-reedus-talks-prep-for-daryl-dixons-death-the-walking-dead-season-finale-video/

[GOLGO 13]

158. Daryl is probably the safest of all the characters other than Rick.

Daryl is the IP of the TV network and not of TWD author. Meaning only the network can OK his death and Daryl is too popular to kill off.

[NewJeffCT]

3. some photos from the finale

at the link below

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/28/the-walking-dead-season-5-finale-photo-preview

[NewJeffCT]

4. Michael Cudlitz (Abraham) talks the finale

“Motherd—k!” We’re guessing we might all be quoting one of our favorite Abraham Ford-isms after The Walking Dead’s Season 5 finale, at least according to what Abraham’s portrayer, Michael Cudlitz, hints to us about the March 29 season ender.

“It’s going to piss you off,” the actor tells Yahoo TV. “There will be tears, but also, once again, like the writers have been doing pretty consistently, it tees up a new beginning in a very, very different way.”

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/walking-dead-abraham-season-5-finale-114137243635.html

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Jeez. That means Daryl or Carol, or both.

Makes no sense. The rumor is they signed on for Season 6.

[NewJeffCT]

10. it could also be

that the season ends in a cliffhanger.

[NewJeffCT]

5. 15 memorable season 5 lines

No "Mother Dick" or "Dolphin Smooth"?

http://www.cleveland.com/tv-blog/index.ssf/2015/03/15_memorable_fifth-season_lines_from_the_walking_dead.html

[Rhythm]

6. I am more excited for tonight than i should be (most likely)

The build-up of tension through the season has been amazing...

I have a running-joke at work that we should start a betting pool about who dies tonight...
no one is a deal-breaker for my fandom of the show, though in the back of my head all i keep muttiering is "No Daryl" and "No Michonne"...

I'll be stuck at work tonight, but the bartender and i have an agreement that he will put EVERY TV above the bar on AMC tonight for me, and turn the TV sound on instead of having the usual music.

[NewJeffCT]

12. that's cool of him

to do that.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. There are supposed to be spoilers on the latest article in this website,

but my malwarebytes won't allow me to go into it. Or rather, I can get to the main homepage, but I can't get into the article that provides the spoilers. Anyone know anything about the wetpaint website?

http://www.wetpaint.com/spoilers/walking-dead

[NewJeffCT]

11. I've never had problems with it before

spoiling dead fans has a full summary of the episode, if you're interested.

[Baitball Blogger]

13. Are you talking about the wetpaint website?

[NewJeffCT]

14. sorry, yes

no problems with wetpaint - they'll probably ask you to follow them on twitter or facebook, though.

[Baitball Blogger]

15. I tried again and I got a cover sheen with the facebook request.

I was able to read through the sheen and, frankly, wasn't too impressed by the spoilers.

[NewJeffCT]

16. it's a short summary

Of spoiling dead

[NewJeffCT]

18. Interesting Washington Post article

on The Walking Dead.

Scholars who think about monsters have long noted that vampires and zombies reveal something to us about ourselves and about our humanity. And during AMC’s “The Walking Dead” Season 5 finale, viewers will have an opportunity to ponder life during a post-apocalyptic world.

Flashing back to an earlier season, though, a profound scene captured the existential quandary that survivors face in an upside-down world. During an episode in the second season, a herd of “walkers” (read: zombies) had just destroyed Hershel Greene’s family farm, where his family and Rick Grimes and his people had managed to establish a community free of flesh-eating zombies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/03/29/why-the-walking-dead-zombie-apocalypse-is-like-faith-and-rooted-in-a-hope-for-humanity/

[Joe Shlabotnik]

19. Not disagreeding with the authors analysis

about age old re-occurring themes of faith and hope, but that's not why the show appeals to so many, so deeply. George A Romero had it right; people fantasize about taking control of their lives in a zombie apocalypse because were so sick of helplessly existing in a mundane and cruel society anyway.

[NewJeffCT]

20. good point

zombies representing that cruel society

[Baitball Blogger]

22. I read somewhere that zombie movies are most popular during

economic downturns.

[NewJeffCT]

25. It wouldn't surprise me

and, the most recent has been a big one.

[RiffRandell]

21. My best friend met Glenn at Comic Con in Seattle yesterday.

Or Steven Yeun IRL. Said he was very cool; she told him she liked the storyline this season and he repeated that back to her so she took that as he's not going to make it.

FYI Norman Reedus put his house on the market because he needs more privacy since his popularity soared...I live outside of Atlanta. Hopefully!

My son thinks they are hyping everything up and no one is going to die...except maybe Pete. He's been right before; he predicted that Dave was laughing because he was bitten and they were eating tainted meat.

He just left to watch it at a friend's house...my husband volunteered to pick him up afterward so I made a cocktail and am nervously waiting.

ETA: Years ago before TWD show, I bought her The Zombie Survival Guide as we always loved zombie movies, and wrote in it that as my best friend, she has my permission to shoot me in the head if I ever become one. Steven Yeun signed the next page.

[NewJeffCT]

23. He's come a long way

from being Sheldon Cooper's old roommate.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

24. Just occured to me that an extra half hour of TWD

will translate into an extra 10 minutes of show, and 20 minutes more of commercials.

[NewJeffCT]

26. probably

hopefully, we'll get a preview of Fear the Walking Dead

[Baitball Blogger]

27. Everything I read suggests that the spin-off

will occur sometime in Season 6 for WD. I think we might have someone from our current group become a part of that group. May have been someone we have already encountered-like a cameo actor.

There aren't very many of those. But, I'm not sure how that happens since the setting of the next place is on the east coast. Around Los Angeles?

[NewJeffCT]

28. The rumor

was that the guy who played Jenner at the CDC from the season 1 finale would make an appearance

[Baitball Blogger]

29. Interesting.

That would make sense, since he had all the data and was convinced it was hopeless.

[Solly Mack]

30. Nervously waiting.

[NewJeffCT]

31. I have a feeling

Pete won't make it till the end of the episode.

[Solly Mack]

32. I'm OK with that.

I see nothing civil (as in Deanna's "this is civilization&quot about allowing a man to beat his family. Not even one who offers a necessary service.

Deanna is basically saying he gets a chance to kill his family and that's OK with her.

However, Daryl's, Glenn's or Judith's death (or Rick's, Michonne's or Maggie's..or Sasha's) would find me weeping copious amounts of tears.

I'm fond of Eugene and Tara as well.

I could get over Carol's death. Or Carl's. Or Rosita's.

As for Abraham...meh. I read the comics...so.

And...Fuck Gabriel.

[Laffy Kat]

70. Not Carl! How COULD you? nt

[Solly Mack]

87. I know. I'm awful.

Still....just not that attached to him.

Which is not to say I want him to die. I don't.

[NewJeffCT]

33. Here we go

previously on The Walking Dead

[NewJeffCT]

34. morgan

in a wrecked car!

[Baitball Blogger]

45. Looks like he's giving up that wreck car up to the zombies.

Stashed the Wolf men in the car and beeped the horn.

[NewJeffCT]

35. some guy approaches Morgan

with a gun

[NewJeffCT]

36. has a W carved into his forehead

tells him about the original settlers putting bounties on Wolves

[Baitball Blogger]

37. Wow. you're ahead of me.

I am just at the part where he told Morgan to put the cup down.

[NewJeffCT]

38. not sure about that

Morgan says he won't allow the guy to take him away

[Baitball Blogger]

42. Interesting that the wolves don't have bullets.

[NewJeffCT]

161. I think that will become more of an issue

as time goes on. The Saviors from the comics (Negan's group) had very few firearms, but were such a threat because they had a lot of people on their team.

[NewJeffCT]

39. Morgan

has become the kung fu master. Damn good job with the staff

[Joe Shlabotnik]

43. lol, great minds and all

[Solly Mack]

40. Morgan!

Yay!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

41. wow, crazy Morgan is now

totally unflappable, and Bruce Lee incarnate.

[redwitch]

44. Alright Morgan!

He is a super ninja!

[NewJeffCT]

46. Now, we get Daryl on his bike

and Aaron in the car

[NewJeffCT]

47. Then, cut to Rick waking up in bed

and bandaged up

[NewJeffCT]

48. Glenn says they're having a meeting

about kicking Rick out

[NewJeffCT]

49. Maggie now glaring at Father Gabriel

through the window

[NewJeffCT]

50. Deanna tells Maggie

that she'll do what she has to do.

[NewJeffCT]

51. Sasha burying the walkers?

weird

[NewJeffCT]

53. weirder still

Sasha goes to lie down in the walker pit

[krispos42]

142. I think she's thinking about how that is probably her fate

Everybody's, really.

[Baitball Blogger]

52. Wow Sasha.

Very metaphorical.

[NewJeffCT]

55. and a bit creepy

lying down in a bed of the dead

[NewJeffCT]

54. back to Daryl and Aaron

out in the woods.

[Baitball Blogger]

58. Don't know how, but it looks like you're watching this

show about three or four minutes ahead of everyone.

[NewJeffCT]

56. Carol talking truth to Rick

says he can't have it both ways - honesty and not wanting to take the place

[NewJeffCT]

57. You don't get both sunshine

great quote from Carol

[Baitball Blogger]

59. I'm telling you. You lose Carol and you lose the best

Fairy Godmother that you would ever want to guide you through an apocalypse.

I'm on the Daryl scene just now: 9:27 est

[NewJeffCT]

63. good comparison

to the fairy godmother

[NewJeffCT]

60. guy in a red poncho

out in the field, spotted by Daryl and Aaron

[NewJeffCT]

61. Maggie working Alexandria

talking to people one on one trying to convince them to let Rick stay

[NewJeffCT]

62. Glenn sees Nicholas climbing the wall

and then Father Gabriel goes out without a gun - God is the only protection he needs.

[NewJeffCT]

64. some sort of food warehouse

found by Daryl and Aaron - 50 miles from Alexandria

[NewJeffCT]

65. holy shit

it's a walker container trap. Daryl and Aaron in serious trouble

[Baitball Blogger]

66. I knew something was up when I saw the cans tied together by strings.

That was a rookie mistake on Daryl's part.

[NewJeffCT]

69. I thought it was strange, too

but, wasn't sure

[Iris]

67. That was like something from Season 1!

The chain to 3 heads was pretty awesome though. Much too advanced for Season 1

[NewJeffCT]

68. that was obviously some sort of set up

the open one door, something falls and 3 container doors open up and suddenly it's walker city

[redwitch]

78. MORGAN!!!!!

For the win!

[NewJeffCT]

104. big time save there

by him

[NewJeffCT]

71. Hmm - that warning note

was a bit late, don't ya think?

[NewJeffCT]

72. Carol and Pete

pete looks like he's about to piss himself

[NewJeffCT]

73. Carol dares Pete

to come after her. Says Pete has a chance and that he's a small weak nothing

[NewJeffCT]

74. Glenn now following Nicholas

Glenn gets shot by Nicholas - and then disappears

[Joe Shlabotnik]

76. yet another Ninja.

If Glen makes it back to the meeting, then his current situation is going to go a long way in vindicating Rick's position.

[NewJeffCT]

77. Will they believe Glenn got shot by Nicholas

or not?

[Joe Shlabotnik]

85. Sure, if Nicholas

is reckless enough to take a prohibited weapon to the meeting, then in walks Glen.

[NewJeffCT]

75. Pete

glares at Rick through the window

[Baitball Blogger]

79. Yay! Morgan!

[NewJeffCT]

82. that was cool

Morgan is awesome

[Baitball Blogger]

86. "All life is precious"

Morgan isn't so cray, afterall.

[NewJeffCT]

88. It certainly seems that way

Morgan ex machina

[NewJeffCT]

80. Morgan saves Daryl and Aaron

nice job

[NewJeffCT]

81. Morgan hands Daryl the map from Abraham

that had the note about Rick Grimes

[Baitball Blogger]

84. Daryl gets to return the favor.

[NewJeffCT]

83. Father Gabriel

going for suicide by walker bite?

[Baitball Blogger]

89. Unfortunately, I read some spoilers.

Let's just say, if he dies by walker-bite, it won't be quick enough.

[NewJeffCT]

90. but, he changes his mind

and kills the walker

[NewJeffCT]

91. I read the entire summary

from Spoiling Dead... just calling events as I see 'em on the show, as there used to be a regular here that would sometimes have to work on Sundays and liked the summaries to keep up with what was going on

[NewJeffCT]

92. Eugene apologizes to Abraham

seems to be sincere

[Baitball Blogger]

93. That was good.

[NewJeffCT]

94. Gabriel at the gate

returning - Aiden's brother wants to chat about Aiden

[NewJeffCT]

95. Glenn jumps Nicholas

but, Nicholas plays dirty and hits Glenn in the gunshot wound

[NewJeffCT]

96. Glenn in trouble now

Nicholas weasled out

[Baitball Blogger]

97. It's going to be Glenn.

[NewJeffCT]

98. Michonne says she is still with Rick

even though he took the gun. Love connection?

[Joe Shlabotnik]

102. I got bit of tthat vibe.

But its not the first time with them.

[Baitball Blogger]

99. "Something is gonna happen. Just don't make it happen."

[NewJeffCT]

100. Rick sees the gate open

and realizes a walker got into town.

Damn you father gabriel

[NewJeffCT]

101. I wonder if Lennie James (Morgan)

is the surprise guest?

[NewJeffCT]

128. Ha- I called it

Lennie James on Talking Dead

[NewJeffCT]

103. It's all coming to head soon

Rick's town meeting, the walker inside Alexandria, Glenn under the walkers, plus, Morgan, Aaron and Daryl

[NewJeffCT]

105. Rick is walker hunting

while they're talking about him pulling a gun

[NewJeffCT]

106. Rick follows the barking dog

to the walker

[NewJeffCT]

107. Sasha having it out

with Father Gabriel

[Joe Shlabotnik]

140. Was hoping that Sasha

would have said that she saw him leave the gate open, and then calmly re-introduced herself as the Angel of Death. Followed by a gunshot.

[NewJeffCT]

108. Glenn is still alive - yeah

and, now he has Nicholas at his mercy

[NewJeffCT]

109. bye bye red poncho guy

by the two Wolves that Morgan spared

[Baitball Blogger]

110. "There is a vast ocean of shit that you people don't know shit about."

[NewJeffCT]

112. I've been hoping for another memorable quote

from Abraham tonight. Vast Ocean of Shit is it.

[RiffRandell]

136. Great line and so true. nt.

[Baitball Blogger]

111. Who was red poncho guy?

[NewJeffCT]

113. they were following him at the beginning of the episode

then lost him.

[NewJeffCT]

115. intense and fast paced

these last 20 minutes or so - Daryl and Aaron get rescued, Nicholas and Glenn showdown, Rick wrestling the walkers, Gabriel and Sasha getting into it, all the wall the town has a nice, calm discussion about Rick's fate. Nice juxtaposition.

[alphafemale]

114. That was the must awesome, hilarious zombie kill of all time.

Go Rick!

[NewJeffCT]

116. I missed it - but, who shot the walker?

Sasha?

[sharp_stick]

117. I thought it looked

like he popped the zombies head like a zit.

[NewJeffCT]

119. the close captioning

said gunshot

[sharp_stick]

121. A lot of background noise

I may have missed that. It was still pretty wild.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

138. Thats what I thought too, and then yes

it would be a highlight reel zombie kill.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

118. Wait, how come Maggie hasn't noticed Glen Missing?

[NewJeffCT]

120. I think she mentioned it at the start

that Glenn as going to come

[amerikat]

122. Pavlov's Walkers (nt)

[NewJeffCT]

124. that was creepy

these guys are just bad people - luring people in and killing them

[amerikat]

129. and have walkers doing what they want them to do.

[NewJeffCT]

133. and they have Aaron's pictures

of Alexandria

[Stardust]

166. I know I'm a bit late, but can you help me out here, please? How did he have a picture of Rick and

Carl?
And, I can't figure out how Pete died.

This is a really funny thread. Wish I'd known about it sooner. Thanks in advance.

[NewJeffCT]

167. I assume that Aaron

took pictures of Rick and Carl and added them to the collection he had in his backpack that he dropped while escaping the walker trap.

We technically don't know that Pete died, as Rick could have been pointing the gun at Reg to make sure he didn't turn. However, after Pete sliced Reg's throat open with the katana, Deanna - in her anguish - told Rick to "Do It" and Rick immediately fired his gun - 99% chance it was at Pete, but there is that slim possibility it was at Reg first.

[Stardust]

168. Thank you. I assumed that Rick shot Reg, but on The Talking Dead, they implied that Pete was a

Dearly Departed. Then I was confused. Guess I'm not the only one.

[NewJeffCT]

123. Sasha has Father Gabriel

at gunpoint, but Maggie got her to stop

[NewJeffCT]

125. pete just killed Reg

with Michonne's sword

[Baitball Blogger]

127. Sadly, Reg needs to get shot in the head to stop the WD process.

[NewJeffCT]

131. Yes, I know

not a good way to go

[NewJeffCT]

126. Morgan at the gate

to close the season

[Baitball Blogger]

132. Morgan has to understand.

The man was a wife beater and had just killed a person in cold blood.

[Solly Mack]

130. Whew. Sorta. Glenn needs to get back inside.

Bye Pete! (POS)

[Baitball Blogger]

134. Morgan on Talking Dead.

Providing wonderful insight into the character.

[NewJeffCT]

135. Seems like a good guy

hopefully, he'll survive season 6

[Baitball Blogger]

144. We'll call him the Ninja-Zen version of Dale.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

137. Morgan: Rick!?

Rick: Morgan? .... Oh Hai!, how's your crazy issues, everything clear now? lol.

Morgan: WTF!?, I followed you all the way here, because I admired your sense of hope and humanity...

Rick: Wait, I can explain, I don't always execute people in cold blood...

[Baitball Blogger]

145. Yeah, that's going to be Awk-ward.

[NewJeffCT]

139. So, you can say "Shit" and "dick" on AMC

but, the F word is off limits?

[Joe Shlabotnik]

141. In the rail car Rick should have said

"They don't know who they're Shit-Dickin' with!"

[Joe Shlabotnik]

143. So its another cliff hanger finale in many regards.

Wonder if Gabriel and maybe Nicholas will be banished, and captured by the Wolves.

[NewJeffCT]

146. and, how will Morgan react

to Rick killing a man?

[Baitball Blogger]

147. I can live with this cliff hangar.

The worst that can happen is that the WD crew get exiled, but they will prove themselves once the Wolf Clan attacks the fort.

Am I mistaken in thinking that Morgan missed a great opportunity to kill those two Wolf men? I thought he was trying to attract zombies when he started beeping the horn.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

148. Re the horn, that was his plan I think,

but were they the same 2 later on, I didn't notice? If so that yes.

[NewJeffCT]

149. Yes

those were the same two later on - on talking dead, Lennie James said Morgan honked the horn to drive off any walkers that could hurt the guys

[Baitball Blogger]

155. Which makes no sense.

Noise attracts them.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

156. 'zactly, thought the horn was to summon the dead

to finish the two Wolves off. He should have used loud music and a mirror ball. (Who knew that Zombies were attracted to Disco.)

[Baitball Blogger]

159. That disco ball reference was cold blooded.

Rock n Rollers never did like to dance disco.

[NewJeffCT]

160. two weeks before

Eugene used a different kind of music to attract the walkers, no?

[pinboy3niner]

162. You're givin' me a Bee Gees walker earworm, lol

Well, you can tell by the way they use their walk,
They're Walker men: no time to talk.

Maybe 'Stayin' Alive' needs to be updated to 'Stayin' Dead.'

[ohnoyoudidnt]

163. No, that didn't make sense, but if it was his intention to have

the walkers kill them why would he close the doors to the car?

[Baitball Blogger]

164. I bet I know what he was doing.

As long as the zombies were surrounding the car it would make it difficult for the two wolf guys to follow Morgan.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

165. Now that makes a lot of sense.

I think it's pretty certain he will regret sparing them later.

[Liberal Veteran]

150. Too many commercials, but a solid episode. I did have a moment of fear that...

...Daryl was going to die and the Walking Fans would riot.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

152. Agree with all you said.

There was a lot to take in, I'll be watching this one again tomorrow for sure.

[NewJeffCT]

157. I was thinking he or Aaron could die

and then Daryl comes back alone - Glenn comes back alone and pretty soon, Alexandrians are terrified of Rick and company

[Laffy Kat]

151. It would be sooo awesome if the producers could get

Quentin Tarantino and/or Robert Rodriguez to guest-direct and episode or two! Think about it.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

153. Someone has!

[IMG][/IMG]

[Laffy Kat]

154. Bwaaaahaaaaaaa.

[Iris]

169. Is it possible Glen was bitten?

I just saw a frame from the zombie pile up and I'm not sure how he could have avoided being bitten.

[NewJeffCT]

170. Yes, it is certainly possible he was bitten

He could also die from the gunshot wound - no Hershel anymore, no Pete, either. Heck, even Beth had some basic medical training.