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Jerry Garcia did not actually spend half his life doing time for some other fucker's crime. (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2015 OP
Next thing you'll say is that Bobby's uncle wasn't killed in a shootout at a card game NightWatcher May 2015 #1
Lol. Grate pic. Lochloosa May 2015 #2
Jerry spent his life doing time in your head. Lochloosa May 2015 #3
Did he EVER. Miles Archer May 2015 #4
... Lochloosa May 2015 #6
Were there psychedelic drugs involved in the transformation? CrawlingChaos May 2015 #7
Oddly enough, no. Miles Archer May 2015 #8
You're just like me then CrawlingChaos May 2015 #9
IF you have the opportunity... Miles Archer May 2015 #10
I will - thanks! CrawlingChaos May 2015 #11
Geez! Enthusiast May 2015 #16
Birdsong story in here ghostsinthemachine May 2015 #13
Wow! Enthusiast May 2015 #15
Nor did he drive a train while high on cocaine. KamaAina May 2015 #5
I knew that. Enthusiast May 2015 #12
Listen Enthusiast May 2015 #14
Next I suppose you'll tell us Johnny Cash didn't shoot a man in Reno just to watch him die pinboy3niner May 2015 #17
The biggest lie came from Jon Bon Jovi Miles Archer May 2015 #19
When there was no dream of mine, you dreamed of me. LiberalAndProud May 2015 #18

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. Next thing you'll say is that Bobby's uncle wasn't killed in a shootout at a card game
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:21 PM
May 2015

Here's a pic from the horse chase that ensued. Note, this must have been after he left his dead ass there by the side of the road.



















Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
4. Did he EVER.
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:55 PM
May 2015

I am of the belief that you cannot hear "Bird Song" without being transformed.

I was transformed.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
7. Were there psychedelic drugs involved in the transformation?
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:39 PM
May 2015

I ask because I went to several Grateful Dead shows back in the 80's (one of them 14+ hours) and never got transformed. Although admittedly it wasn't my idea to be there - it was the guy I was with at the time. I always felt I wasn't on enough drugs for the experience. I know I wasn't properly medicated for the 45 minute drum solos.

Still, I do like a lot of Grateful Dead songs. And I will say that Deadheads are the nicest, friendliest arena crowd I've experienced.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. Oddly enough, no.
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:55 PM
May 2015

Some THC here and there but that's about it. I just thought Jerry had what Neil Young has...this raw, primal "musician" core that infused his performances. They both know how to TOUCH you. In terms of technical proficiency, Jerry is obviously light years ahead of Neil. I put Neil on the same plateau as Lou Reed...they could pick up a guitar and plug in and hit a LOT of bad notes but rock you like you've never been rocked. Jerry clearly noodled...hell, he had to put up with Weir learning how to play slide guitar ON STAGE...but in terms of compositions like Bird Song and Stella Blue, a bowl or two amplified their beauty, but really wasn't required.

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
9. You're just like me then
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:11 PM
May 2015

Some weed, no acid (I always felt like the *only* person there not tripping). Okay, mushrooms once but they were kind of underwhelming. I was very young then and quite distracted by everything going on in the crowd. Too bad I missed all the nuances.

Funny what you said about Bob Weir - I remember the guy I was with having similar complaints that Weir wasn't on par with Garcia. And also what you said about Lou Reed - I know what you mean! I love Velvet Underground but I swear sometimes it sounds like they're in a bathroom playing instruments from Toys R Us. But they have so much, I don't know, visceral power I guess.

I will listen to Bird Song later and see if I can pick up some of what I missed back in the day.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
10. IF you have the opportunity...
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:28 PM
May 2015

...listen to Bird Song along with David Crosby's "Laughing" (which also features Jerry on what may be the single greatest pedal steel performance of his career). I seldom listen to one without listening to the other. I am convinced you'll "get what you missed" if you do that.



CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
11. I will - thanks!
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:42 PM
May 2015

I'm predisposed to trust your taste based on your username (I'm such a huge fan of both book and film) so I will certainly give this pairing a listen.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
13. Birdsong story in here
Wed May 6, 2015, 04:32 PM
May 2015

I was at a football party one sunday long ago. Mid eighties. Somehow I got control of the music between games and put on Birdsong from Without Annette on the stereo and turned it up. A house full of non dead heads if there ever was one. As soon as the song started the house pet, a cockateil starting singing and dancing in her cage. And I mean really signing. Her owner said she never did that before and was flipped out over it. I asked "do you know the name of the song" and she said "No". I told her "Birdsong".

After that both the bird and owner became lifelong dead heads.

Sometimes you get shown the light, indeed......

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. Next I suppose you'll tell us Johnny Cash didn't shoot a man in Reno just to watch him die
Wed May 6, 2015, 06:23 PM
May 2015

Good luck with that, dude!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
19. The biggest lie came from Jon Bon Jovi
Wed May 6, 2015, 06:42 PM
May 2015

"I've seen a million faces, and I've ROCKED them all."

My ASS.

There are documents on file PROVING that at the time of "Wanted Dead Or Alive," Bon Jovi had in fact seen a million faces, but informal polling revealed that 37% of the people felt "rocked," a whopping 46 percent felt "moderately aroused but not quite rocked," 10% were "undecided," and the remaining 7% claimed to be "in the loo" while the band was performing. Yes, for their entire set. We are either talking weak bladders or a public restroom fetish MAYBE both.



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