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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. If there's a clique, I'm not a member.

But then, I never got to be a member of a clique.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

4. I know how to click a Bic

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

8. Flick. Flick a Bic

I stopped flicking my Bic when I quit smoking.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

17. well, obviously I am not very good at this click thing --

I do flick one now again for some good doobage

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

130. Doobage! I have a vague recollection from the distant past

And I might still have an old Bic around here somewhere ...

[cbayer]

2. Sorry, but it is.

[ohiosmith]

5. This could get good!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

7. I know, right.

[ohiosmith]

9. And you started it.

Have some?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

14. sure, thanks --

does this mean we are the popcorn clique of two, now?

[ohiosmith]

16. Welcome one, welcome all!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

6. if it was up to me, the admin would shut down The Lounge.

trust me...I know. I lived through it and had the forced ignores to prove it. If there is a clique now, I don't see it. Maybe there is and, I am an outsider.

[cbayer]

10. I think admin keeps the lounge open because they want to keep the lounge drama out

of the rest of the site.

You are part of the lounge clique, Tuesday. Not to say there is anything wrong with that.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. I am? news to me. I am a long time poster in the Lounge, true... OK then, let us go down your path

and tell me then who are the other clique members cos dang if I know --

[cbayer]

29. While there have been times when there has been more than one clique in the lounge

(and those have been the worst times), there has, in my experience, always been at least one clique.

It is primarily composed of long term lounge members.

There are lots of inside jokes. Posts often reference directly or indirectly other members of the group.

It is very difficult to break in. New people are generally ignored or even openly challenged.

If you are not a regular, posting something personal in there would probably be a big mistake.

If sufficiently motivated, people can join the club, but the amount of effort involved is pretty high.

I don't mean any of this as criticism. It is what it is. And it is, thankfully, a relatively peaceful and fun place for the members who are regulars right now.

The point really is about locking threads in GD because "they really belong in the lounge". If not a lounge regular, you probably really don't want your thread in the lounge.

I know I don't.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

30. I am sorry cbayer but, that post is pretty offensive on some different levels, I know you

tried to word it as tactfully and as diplomatically as possible and the fact that you called me out as being a clique but, refuse to name whom are other members is just not cool.

If you can not see the smug attitude over there in H&M about the Lounge.

break in to what? a bunch of mixed nuts, is what I see.

what mistake? pixels on a screen...bfd.

[cbayer]

31. Did not mean to be offensive and I sincerely apologize.

Clearly you receive my saying that you are part of the clique as an insult. It is not meant to be.

You are a member of a group, that's all. A clique is merely a relatively small group that interact with each other more regularly and more intensely than other members of group (partially stolen from wikipedia definition).

There are cliques in many of the groups around here.

I am not calling you out. You started a thread mocking the statement by another member that the lounge is cliquish. I responded to that by agreeing with him and noting that you were a part of it.

What is smug about that?

Anyway, I'm out of here. This is one of the reasons I don't come here.

I hope this doesn't impede our developing friendship.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

33. the smug attitude is what I am seeing over in H&M by other DUers, not you. of course, this has

nothing to do with me and you. I am honestly trying to understand this place called DU is all. and truly, I wish the Admin would shut down the Lounge. I have wished it for a very long time before, during and after all the crap from before. It is still here therefore I post here...that is all. I really do not know most of the people in here at all.

There are some few very long timers that I recognize and love, some I hate, some I love to hate and, some I hate to love.

It is like that for me all over DU.

I can not speak for anyone else.

I will talk to anyone, anywhere on DU....especially if it is a topic that interests me.

go, stay, come back .... whatever.

[OriginalGeek]

102. Really? Close the lounge?

I originally signed up for DU because I was simply looking to read more info on Democrats and democratic candidates as I am of a liberal bent. And I found all kinds of cools stuff to read all over the site - I am subscribed to several groups that I read but probably don;t post in as much as I post in here.

Which brings me to my point - I love buuuullllshittin. The lounge is the only place appropriate to come in and just bullshit about whatever.

I love Album of the day.
I love Alter a thread title.
I love MFM's pictures (And I'm sorry I didn't say it to him often enough) (BTW, I was here a month before I figured out he was a him)
I love food porn.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE it when people post parody threads of other lounge thread titles.
I love that CaliforniaPeggy calls everyone "My Dear..." It makes my day sometimes to be a dear of CaliforniaPeggy's.
I love pictures of cats and other animals with or without any explanation at all, whether they are lolcritters or just regular critters

I revel in the sheer ridiculousness of it all and mostly because I have been a clown all my life and I appreciate quality clowning around. I know sometimes I have to be serious in other groups and that's fine.
But please don't close my lounge because then I'd have to clown around in seriouser groups and I don't wanna get banned from this place.

Fortunately I'm dense enough not to get when people around me are being cliquey. Fuck it, I just wade on in uninvited. Because when it all boils down, there's no such thing as uninvited here. I patently refuse to recognize anyone as uninvited. Everyone is welcome to post in the lounge.

I haven't even been on DU for a full year and by no means do I think I'm an insider but that doesn't stop me from fully enjoying the shenanigans here in the lounge.

*NB: If I didn't mention anyone's specific shtick it's not because I don't love you too. I am a lazy clown and even more forgetful than lazy.

Peace and love to the loungies!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

105. Honestly, OG, I don't know what I want right now ... and Yes, there are times when

I wish they would meld GD and the Lounge...that thread in H&M and that word "clique" I guess just hit me wrong.

[OriginalGeek]

110. Yeah that can happen.

I bristled at it myself but then I just told myself it was bullshit.

Which, I know, is mighty convenient for me, lol, but that's just the way I do.


And frankly, as long as I can be assured I won't get banned for being continually off-topic, it doesn't matter where these kind of posts go. SO I guess I should clarify that it doesn't matter to me if they take away the lounge, as long as they don;t take away the spirit of the Lounge.

But it just seems tidier to keep these non-political fun things out of GD or elsewhere.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

113. yes, but now they are arguing about what belongs where and holy hell

round and round they go and somehow The Lounge is like some big trash heap for what is not deemed GDworthy. fuck that noise. pisses me off.

yes...SPIRIT!!!!

and YES we take our spirit with us no matter where in DU we are.

and they need to just deal with it and get a grip.

and some of that smug needs to be ..... swallowed or something....

like --- get real people.

sorry, confused I am getting.

[Kali]

111. this is such a great post!

Thanks OG - that is mostly how I feel too - when I first came here I just waded in too...I'm probably not the best at saying "hi and welcome" to new people, but I sure hope I haven't ever been outright rude to somebody just arriving (again unless they are obviously trolling or something).

I read lots of posts on the site, usually whatever catches my eye on the latest page, but the lounge is where I mostly post. To whoever said that loungers who don't post anywhere else should be "looked at" I take real offense. Talk about unwelcoming. I don't post that much in GD and elsewhere because I am usually in learning mode, rather than blabbing about stuff I don't know well. Does that mean I shouldn't be a member here?

[OriginalGeek]

120. Nope, not at all

I would think that should be what DU is seeking - folks who want to learn from folks who know. And there are some incredibly knowledgeable folks here too. I swear I learn things every day.

[snooper2]

143. Let's talk about some bad ass re-mixes then!

check this out--

&feature=related

[kentauros]

147. Mashups over remixes any day!

[snooper2]

149. No Way, a proper re-mix is greatness topped only by the originals...

That mashup has 15k views, this has 25 million

[kentauros]

162. As you should know, "best" is not determined by higher numbers

By the way, I'm not a fan of twopac, so I'm not looking at your videos

[Kali]

32. wow

somebody must have really attacked you here in the past

sure there are some inside jokes - that happens anywhere there are regulars, but all anybody has to do is ask and anybody will try to find links or explain.

as for being ignored, that happens to everybody at various times - plenty of regulars have sunken posts with no replies...if somebody only comes and posts a couple times and then gives up, it isn't because they were actively shunned - jeebus, it might have been a slow time or maybe what they posted didn't generate a response due to the type of content. Lots of reasons for no reactions here (hell, maybe what they posted was just stupid)

I would REALLY like to see even ONE example of a newcomer (who wasn't a troll) being openly challenged. Please.

[MiddleFingerMom]

50. I would REALLY like to see even ONE example of a newcomer (who wasn't a troll)

being openly challenged. Please.

This!!! This!!! This!!!

[pintobean]

103. It's been a while

but it happened once in a while. I think it was people who weren't frequent lounge posters who were trying to fit in. It's happened to me a few times. I wont name names and I doubt I could find an example. I don't see those folks around much anymore, though.
For the most part, I've always found the lounge welcoming.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

161. !

[TheCruces]

129. I'm new here and I pop in on random stuff

Nobody's gone after me. Sometimes I get responses, sometimes I don't. I don't take it personal.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

135. ~

[MiddleFingerMom]

145. Needless to say - but said anyway - welcome to DU!!!

[nadine_mn]

62. I usually hang in the lounge

But in no way do I consider myself in a clique...and I am even a host now!

I prefer to post in the lounge because GD is full of duplicate threads and anything not related to the day's current meme (Rush, Romney, Maher etc) sinks quickly. People are very quick to jump on comments, post snide or snarky remarks, etc. This is not always the case but seems like it recently.

I don't think the lounge has cliques...I think people here have become friends and many share a similar sense of twisted humor. With all boards that have been around for years there are inside jokes, references to past dramas. I belong to a craft group and their forums also have inside jokes that some see as cliquish.

Some people are very welcoming in the lounge...I am talking to you California Peggy... and some are more reserved. But that is the nature of any community..online or otherwise.

[cbayer]

70. Actually, California Peggy was pretty much the only welcoming person

when I first signed up and tried to spend some time in the lounge.

Not being a member of the club, I didn't get the jokes and was called a troll several times.

I even started a thread called "What does it take to be accepted in the lounge?". I started it in GD, it was moved to the lounge and I basically got the response I am getting now.

Then I had the perspective from a moderator perspective and got to see lots of evidence of exclusive and cliquish behavior.

Honestly, I am way past caring, particularly since some of the old drama kicks back up from time to time. I just find it ironic that members of the club don't think there is a club.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

77. I want to address this cbayer since you have been a

Member since: Mon Jul 7, 2003, 10:47 AM

and you think I am a member of a clique, right? If I am/was, I guess it means from the old stuff...well, all my "clique members" have been banned except for datasuspect
and he is never around anymore...so, is that the clique that you are referencing or, what...

some clique that was...and you should know since you have this moderator perspective.

I honestly want to understand this clique that I am in because the only one I know of now might be the dumbass clique....

[cbayer]

82. I think the best answer I can give you is that you were able to start this thread.

Again, I am not saying it's a bad thing to be a member of this club.

As to the old cliques and the clique wars, that's an entirely different thing. That was really, really ugly and I am very wary when evidence of that rears it's head.

Perhaps because clique was used in a very negative way during those wars (along with swarm and other terms), people here are sensitive to it. If that's the case, then the term has taken on a meaning that I can see would be offensive and will search for other terms (club? close group of friends that all hang out in the same place?).

As Xema Sab said below, when you have an area where threads are started that appear to be exclusively aimed at a small group ("in" jokes or those that directly address specific members), that feels cliquish to those that are not included.

Perhaps what will come of this is some effort to be more welcoming.

Wouldn't it be great if the lounge were the place where new members could introduce themselves and be welcomed. As I have access to info on where new members post (through MIRT), I can assure you that almost no one comes here first.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

83. thanks for replying... as for new members and where they choose to post, I can only wonder

depending on their agenda I would suppose they have a target.

inside jokes?

the only one I know of is dumbass and that is no longer inside, right?

maybe some of us quick-witted and think fast on our feet with a good comeback, retort.

I don't know... if there is a club, it is called The Lounge and there are clubs all over DU with their own inside references, I would think.

I can not speak to other Loungers and their posting style.

I do know that I used to be more welcoming but, after the last several years and especially since my surgery last year, I participate less here but, I will talk to anyone, anywhere on DU.

Maybe that is not good or bad but, just the way I am.

thanks for your thoughts especially about XemaSab and her reply . . . because well.... you know why ... talk about Ugly. she knows cliques and if you don't know she knows them then you are not as up to speed on all the mess as you think you are...either that or I am really mistaken about what I saw happening in The Lounge a few years ago.

[XemaSab]

121. I really have no idea what you're talking about

/too dumb to ignore a callout

[Tuesday Afternoon]

89. I really don't understand this part:

"I think the best answer I can give you is that you were able to start this thread."

I saw the quote elsewhere on DU ....why shouldn't we talk about it?

it needs to be addressed because of past issues and besides

what the hell?

clique?

I don't see it. WHO IS MY CLUB unless it is anyone, anywhere in the whole wide world because the world is my oyster.

I am a LONER in LIFE but, I reserve the right to talk to anyone, any time about any thing - that is just the way I roll.

The admin are calling for transparency....well, here it is ....

we can talk about it here or in H&M...

kind of like all the shit that went down with Feminists. It was talked about in both places -- same thing, right?

[cbayer]

93. I am really sorry I entered this thread at this point.

Please carry on. I will see you in some of the other areas you frequent.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

95. is okay...I can see why you are frustrated. I am too which is why I posted...btw I have replied

to another poster in that H&M thread...I am truly seeking clarity on all this ~peace, cbayer

[snooper2]

144. You are a clique of One!

Sing the Anthem!

&ob=av2e

[Bryn]

146. I agree with you here

LOL unless you post "ask me anything", copycat ones, unfunny mindless jokes, "my xxxxxth posts", etc. you're generally ignored here.

This post naturally will be ignored.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

158. it will be ignored by cbayer because she left the thread and since you

replied to a person that left the thread what else do you expect? aha! but, since it is my thread and I am paying attention to it -- I will say Hello, naturally....

sorry to disappoint you Bryn.

please do read on about how we all get ignored here at one time or another.

[Duer 157099]

3. That's a pretty cool trick

a link to the "reply" for your own OP! Awesome, I'll have to remember that one.

Edit: oops, sorry, that's to another post elsewhere, which I guess is the one you're talking about. But why the reply link?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

11. fixed it, thanks. I thought about replying to that post and changed my mind --

I think it is only fair that The Lounge know they are being discussed elsewhere on the board.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

13. Was Lounge Losers a clique on DU2?

It didn't feel cliquish, but what would I know?

I'm somewhat socially oblivious, so might not recognize a clique if I bumped into one.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

15. me too, I am a Loner...I try to be polite and respectful to ALL DUers...sometimes, I fail miserably

but, I do try ....

[Duer 157099]

18. Painfully obvious to me now that I'm one of the bozos

who runs around here in the lounge, oblivious to the cliques who ignore me.

Oh well. It's just like real life.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

20. oh gawd, the pain -- I know, right.

mere flesh wound, I say.

more like a real after all I have seen...

[nadine_mn]

19. ok as a lounge lizard, I am offended by the use of "they"

like people who post in the Lounge are some other class of DUers... pfft there is awesomeness in Lounge.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

23. yes. that was the thing with me. like we are lower class citizens if we post in here

I am sick of that attitude from others on this board.

[Dr. Strange]

48. Yes, we are the lower class.

However, not as low as some other groups. Like the gungeon. Or the Sports Forums. Or the Delaware Forum.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

52. I know, right

I am the lowest of the low evidently cos I post in lounge and RKBA and fricking Montana of all things

[OriginalGeek]

119. That's one I read much more than I post

RKBA, not Montana.. Although I hope to take pictures in Montana some day. I hear they got big sky.



Which reminds me of another thing I love - Dave Grohl's PRobot project.
This one is Big Sky by Dave and Tom G. Warrior (of Celtic Frost)

[nadine_mn]

64. Oh what's the gungeon? Nt

[MiddleFingerMom]

94. (on the left of the page) Gun Control & RKBA (Group) Justice & Public Safety

[HappyMe]

21. I don't see it as a click.

People come here to relax and get away from the fighting in the other parts of du. If folk want drama, they
can step over to h&m.
Seriousness - goto the gd or one of the other super political groups.


There is no reason to close the lounge.

Laughter, and support for friends in need of a shoulder is a wonderful part of life.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

28. well, I understand but, damn... can't we get some respect around here?

know what I mean, Vern?

on edit, I still wish it was shut down. sorry.

[HappyMe]

133. Meh! I don't give a crap if others

look down their noses at the Lounge.

If others think we are just a room of goofs, then so be it.

I know that there are a lot of inside jokes here. I also know that many of the people here have been here a long, long time. Imo, if there weren't inside jokes among those people, it would indicate that the Lounge wasn't working. That people weren't having a good time, that they didn't care about each other. The inside joke thingy doesn't bother me at all.

Everybody has days where, in their real life they may be having a hard time. If there is a sad thread here, they may not be emotionally up to reading/posting in it themselves.

If the Lounge shut the doors, where would the fun go? The support for others? The crazy pictures and the album of the day? Other forums would lock those threads in a New York Minute.

If people ONLY post here, so fucking what?

Mmkay. End of rant.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

134. it will all go in GD...they are arguing that the word GENERAL means just that...so be it, I say.

some of them are saying that because they post in GD that their stuff does NOT belong in the lounge when it is clearly a personal post but, they don't want it in the Lounge.

Does that make sense to you?

[HappyMe]

138. No.

Not at all.
For now, as long as the political stuff/arguments/what have you doesn't start oozing into the Lounge, it's all good.


Strike up the Lounge band, dole out the snacks & enjoy!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

140. cheers!

[Ptah]

22. We are members of the Sunflower League {kick in unison}

[Duer 157099]

24. OK that made me laugh

damn you

[Tuesday Afternoon]

26. omg, Ptah!

I must be the one on the end...with the horns

[Swede]

25. Cricket threads should go to the sports forum.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

27. oh! cricket!

never mind it was about cricket!

[MiddleFingerMom]

34. the lounge is mostly for the lounge people. MFM and his merry band of whatevers.

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[Tuesday Afternoon]

37. I know, right.

totally do NOT get this at all. Lounge is damn near dead... I guess we are a clique of cadavers or, maybe a clique of buzzards picking over the bones of what used to be.

dang if I know.

I just know that I am tired of some DUers looking down their nose at other DUers because of where they post on this website. It is bullshit.

[MiddleFingerMom]

42. "some DUers looking down their nose at other DUers..."

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USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!
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[ohiosmith]

39. "Merry band" Can I play cymbals?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

59. only if I can shake the tamborine

[ohiosmith]

97. Shake that thing.

[UTUSN]

35. I thought *I* was in your clique, Tues!1 But seriesly speaking of smug hosts (not cbayer)

the ones who "Posts often reference directly or indirectly other members of... " DU in the H&M forum are incredibly smug and patronizing and oblivious to the ethics of Hosting. Somebody called a 90-days' Hosting BY SOME as "reign of terror," and I totally agree.

So, when I have to ask to be in your clique, Tues, is it too needy and therefore disqualifying?!1

[Tuesday Afternoon]

36. dude --

seriously, this place is feeding on itself and eating its own.

and, Yes...that smug and patronizing attitude is not helping, imo.

[ZenLefty]

38. It's not like we'd tell *you*

[Tuesday Afternoon]

51. you - Ninja - you

[Wait Wut]

40. Damnit.

I hang out here because I feel comfortable with all you misfits. I stalk H&M (and rarely post) because I like to watch train wrecks.

But, I'm completely anti-social. Now that I'm aware that this is a clique...I'll have to leave. I have been banished to the netherworld of DU where no one will hear from me again. OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!

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On second thought...fuck that. I like it here. I read a post because of it's humor/interest/compassion/need, etc. I don't look at who the hell is posting. I've responded to several people here that I've never friggin' heard of. This site needs humor and this is the best place to find it. A lot of people on this site need a break from reality. The Lounge isn't a clique, it's a damned beach with those fruity drinks with umbrellas. I just can't find the hot, young guy in the Speedo to bring it to me.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

43. hey, that fruity drink would go nice with the mixed nuts

that I just called this place, right

this is the raggediest clique, I have ever seen.

[MiddleFingerMom]

45. !!!

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[ohiosmith]

46. Damn you to hell!

[Wait Wut]

53. SPEEDO!! DAMNIT!! I SAID SPEEDO!!!

Not a THONG!!! Put that thing away!!

But, um...what's in the box?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

55. omg!! *snort*

looking good, dude!

[nadine_mn]

66. Dear god man...I need to call PETA

For stuffing that anaconda in such a small pouch

[hedgehog]

72. I was thinking of you because I know sometimes you think

you don't get enough replies, but please, it's not that you're being ignored - it's just that so often you leave me speechless!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

100. exactly!

if post anything it might look something like this:

[susanr516]

118. EEEEKK!!

I think I am scarred for life.




Actually, I hang out in the Lounge because I always found it more friendly and laid back than most of the other forums.

Plus, MFM's posts are seriously twisted and I enjoy them.

I missed out on all the drama in the past, but I have lurked long enough to know that I should never discuss the time I fed my pit bull cornflakes while breast-feeding my youngest son at the local Olive Garden.

[OriginalGeek]

122. Did I just get hired by UPS?

because...package....ya know?

[XemaSab]

41. There's totally a clique

The lounge sucks now in part because there is a small group of people who do not post for everyone to reply to, they post for their friends to reply to.

As a fundie book I was reading the other day said, "If it's not fun for all, it's not fun at all."

Most of these people do not use DU for anything other than interacting with their friends in the lounge. I almost never see the members of the clique in GD, LBN, or anywhere else on the site.

If I were Skinner and I saw a person who only posts in the lounge get into it with someone who is genuinely interested in politics and current events and someone had to be banned, the person who only posts in the lounge would be the first to go.

I know that the members of the clique are claiming not to know who the other members of the clique are, but I suggest to y'all that you go form a facebook group for your in-jokes, vanity posts, ego-fluffing, and other exclusive interactions, and come to DU only when you are interested in interacting with a wide variety of people on a wide variety of topics.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

49. and you know cliques, right.

you have a lot of experience with them . . .

my subscriptions for your perusal (in the interest of transparency and all)
My Groups

Ancestry/Genealogy
Ancient Wisdom and Pagan Spirituality
Anthropology
Asian Group
Astrology, Spirituality & Alternative Healing
Baseball
Career Help and Advice
Classic Films
Classical Music
DIY & Home Improvement
DU Marketplace
Economy
Feminism and Diversity
Gaming
Gardening
Gun Control & RKBA
Health
Music Appreciation
Native American
Occupy Underground
Personal Finance and Investing
Science
Seekers on Unique Paths
TV Chat
World History

[rug]

71. Classical music?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

74. sue me, I'm a nerd.

[Wait Wut]

58. Excuse me...

...but could you please show your membership card and tell me the secret password before you post here? I'd ask for the secret handshake, but there's something going around in The Lounge and we're pretty sure it's because none of us wash our hands. So, instead, we ask that you hop up and down on one leg while singing "Johnny Jump Up" and twirling a baton with your other foot.

Thanks. Once you do all that we'll provide you with a t-shirt, button and fashionable cap to wear to our super-secret meetings. Um...bring rubber gloves.

[siligut]

99. I kept hoping for a smiley or something at the end of your post

I really don't like it that you feel this way. I always appreciate seeing you in the lounge. Darn it all

[Tuesday Afternoon]

101. me too, siligut. me too.

oh well her choice, right.

[siligut]

104. Yes, it is her choice

But I just don't get how people think the lounge is unwelcoming. Though I think there is a vibe, that occurs on any message board .

[Tuesday Afternoon]

106. yes and since we have so many groups and forums, I think it can happen in any of them on here

their own jargon, etc but, honestly to call this a clique is not right and there are a lot more "weird vibe" groups on DU.

but, to say there is a clique... to me that means it is a group within a group and I don't see it happneing here. do you?

does any that make sense

[siligut]

112. If there is, I am clueless

Of course some people tend to respond to each other, more than others. It happens in all of the forums. But I really don't notice people being excluded and that would be the primary indication, for me, that a clique existed.


Yes, it makes sense to me, but that really doesn't mean much

[Tuesday Afternoon]

116. LOL

thanks

[Kali]

117. who posts only for thier friends to reply to?

Seriously, XemaSab. I am just not seeing any of that anymore. Oh sure about once a month or so some of the FB gang shows up and tries to stir things up, but the truth is they are just as welcome to be here as anybody else even though they claim to hate the place...

But other than the fake callouts of MFM and his in return, which I think are probably funny to anybody with a warped sense of humor, and the big secret inside joke about that dumbass, I am just not seeing it. Can you give some more examples? Otherwise it is just the history of the place...Olive Garden, chicken and that sort of thing...What are the posts intended just for insiders/friends?

And do you think I should be banned if I "get into it" with a prolific GD poster just because I am not prolific? I try to avoid getting into it with anybody unless I know what I am talking about, and certainly not if I am actually in AGREEMENT with what I might be reading...the logic fails me on that, as well.

[denbot]

44. And you are..?

[IMG][/IMG]

[Tuesday Afternoon]

47. am I really? is that the way you see me? cool.

when did I ever snob you, denbot? when have you ever posted in one of my threads, til now? and that is what you post to me? and -I- am the snob? really?

yeah, right. you snark me. cool, dude. funny.

what the fuck ever.

[Wait Wut]

60. That's totally not you.

I see you more as a domestic long-hair. Possibly Maine Coon.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

63. yeah, maine coon -- thats the ticket

[denbot]

78. Wow, wait a minute

"And you are?" is a snarky parody of someone being snobbish. I never meant to imply either you or I engaged in snobbish or clickish behavior. I was just making a joke..

[Tuesday Afternoon]

80. I apologise, denbot--- after I posted -- I realized that I probably took it the wrong way -- Sorry

I am feeling kind of -weird- about all this... especially since some people think I am in a clique and refuse to name my cliquemates.

Forgive me?

please.

~peace

this whole interaction just proves that I have no idea who is in my clique.

[denbot]

88. Hey no worries

I'm just lounging, with ALL my homies (liberal/progressives/democrats), whether any of them like me or not.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

90. got that right.

[siligut]

114. I think it was a cute joke

He had a cute LOL cat and thought it would be funny to use it in this thread. I have never seen denbot be snarky.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

115. yeah, I realized it after I posted but, I didn't want to edit because I wanted to make sure

there is not some hidden agenda going on around here...

I just can't go through that shit again.

[applegrove]

54. I don't see a clique either. It is a nice place to relax and "think back ore the years and laugh

& wiggle both your ears"

[Tuesday Afternoon]

56. I can't wiggle my ears but, I can roll my tongue.

[applegrove]

57. .

[kentauros]

152. I can't do either of those,

but I can do a little harmonic singing:

(This guy's a professional; I'm not.)

[Wait Wut]

61. Does it count...

...if when you wiggle your ears the entire side of your head moves? If not, damnit.

[applegrove]

65. Personally, when I wiggle both my ears i do it by raising and lowering my eyebrows. Anything is

game. Just so long as they wiggle.

[madinmaryland]

67. Shit. They should have seen the "clique" and the "swarm" back in 2009.

At least a dozen got the granite cookie!

[taterguy]

68. There were no cliques or swarms in 2009

Dumbass

[MiddleFingerMom]

96. These are not the cliques or swarms you are looking for.

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Jedass
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[Tuesday Afternoon]

98. whatever the hell That was, This ain't it- because - if IT is ---

I want the fuck out now. gawdamn a bunch of forced ignores and PPRs/granite cookies.

[LiberalAndProud]

69. I find the lounge to be a friendly and caring place.

Also, I feel compelled to post in this epic thread.


[font size="1"]For posterity: I was here for the Great Lounge War of 2012.[/font]

[hedgehog]

73. I can think of at least three threads today where the OP

is having a rough time and came to the Lounge for comfort - and got it in spades!

[LiberalAndProud]

76. Is that a bad thing?

I'm not familiar with the threads referenced so; is that a bad thing?

[hedgehog]

141. I meant this as a counter argument to the notion we're

involved with cliques - I think there is a lot of free floating good will here in the lounge.

[pipi_k]

75. Yes, it is.

Like someone else above said, there are a few who exchange inside jokes.

Not saying it's abnormal or anything, just that I've seen it.

I haven't been challenged, but I have felt...well...left out. It's OK, though. I'll just have fun with whoever else wants to talk to me.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

79. I would think that it is normal to feel left out, I know I have felt that myself --

I almost died last year and the thread about it sunk after -4- replies...so you know...that would have been painful and humbling and it did sting. but, I blew it off and went on because that is my nature. I can not speak to other's natures and reactions about this board so, I won't.

I was in the hospital for 4 days with liver failure and had 2 surgeries. I was out of work for three weeks and ... the story gets worse but, fuck it. that is my life and I am pretty private.

I come to DU to read current events and post to de-stress.



read that everyone FOUR fucking replies. some gawdamn clique I am in. fuck this noise. it is bullshit.

if there is a clique I promise you I AM NOT IN IT!!!!

either that or it is biggest non-clique EVER been my experience to hang out with.

[pipi_k]

84. I'm sorry, I didn't see that thread...

was it here, in the Lounge? I'm real sorry you didn't get more than a few replies...really and truly.

I never ventured into the DU2 Lounge, and I'll tell you why...

It was because, on other parts of DU2, the Lounge was viewed as being, well...rather low class, you know?

I was afraid to venture in on two levels...

1. Not being accepted here

2. Being branded, on other parts of DU2, as being one step up from a "moran".


One day a while back I decided to peek in here to see what was happening. Lo and behold...I see lots of music threads! I LOVE music. Music videos!

And I started posting, and I had fun.

I like it here in the Lounge, and the way I figure it, if anybody wants to think I'm a "moran" because I post in the Lounge, I don't give a shit.

Not my problem.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

86. the Moran Clique ?!

dumbasses ?!

fuck it. proud to be one, I am

fuck the smug.

that is their problem and we have a right to diss them over here just like they are dissing us over there, right?

turnabout fairplay.

you are right, their attitude is not my problem.

[madinmaryland]

107. HE's back....

[nolabear]

81. Maybe we need a Lounge Clique-tionary for those who feel left out.

RT: Random Thoughts--a really really random dude whose performance art, mental issues or even reality no one could agree on. He's gone but his "I am due beer and travel money and many experiences" tagline remains.

LeftyFingerPop: a really really random TS'D dude whose very name can get your thread locked.

MiddleFingerMom: a really really random dude who has variously been accused of hijacking the Lounge and being the funnies mofo ever to walk the earth.

Etc. and so forth.

[pipi_k]

85. Thanks...

I could never figure out that deal about beer and travel money...

now I know!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

87. eccentric and found tolerance in the Lounge, is that it?

really trying to understand the dynamics of it all....

do teach it...you are hitting on something that I can understand, I think

[nolabear]

91. What made me laugh about the whole clique thing

is that we all can't agree on whether water is wet. We just hang out and hug each other and make one another pissy and throw up our hands and act like sixth graders on Go Juice and reveal all our insecurities and paranoias and basically just do what people do.

Oh, and post pictures of cats.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

92. . . . and dogs

thanks, nolabear...that is how I see it, too. Humans being human.

[bluedigger]

124. Cats suck.

Dogs only.

You're on "Ignore".

[Wait Wut]

128. Alerted for ignorance.

Cats rule. Dogs drool.

[pipi_k]

137. Cats don't rule...

Dogs take over the bed...

Cats plan to kill you while you're sleeping

[HappyMe]

139. Indeed.

Well known scientific fact. Proven by Fact People the world over.

[Dystopian]

108. ?

What is this? No care about the past or future?
I simply have the urge to be in this thread because I've not been part of a clique.

And now I want to be.....
I've never belonged anywhere in society...
This is my starting point....I hope...

I want to use this now....
I feel silly.

peace~

[Tuesday Afternoon]

109. girl, you make me giggle

glad you are feeling better

[mentalsolstice]

123. Funny, during the "purge" I survived.

And i dare a jury to say my post goes against the TOS of tne lounge...it has been put here, so here it is where I'll answer. Many of my friends were purged. Before that, we liked to hang out together. We had our inside jokes, just us amd not against other DUers, no one in the lounge was the butt of our fun (except for perhaps Radio Lady).

Then there was the purge and forced ignores. Most of my forced ignores were TSd or PPRd.

So here I stand, representing LostinVa, Midlo, Kitchenwitch, and many others gone, but not forgotten.

On edit: How many heads here are going to explode when I admit I have MFM on total ignore. Just saying...there is no clique?

[MiddleFingerMom]

127. I was kinda hopin' there was a clique so's I could see all those asplodin' haids.

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It makes at least two of us very happy.
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I sure wish she could see me thanking her.
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[Tuesday Afternoon]

136. so then, you are admitting to making Radio Lady the butt of your fun, right. got that. lovely.

your personal ignores are your business and are NOT proof of any clique, imo. ymmv.

whatever.

at least you admit to Radio Lady.

[RZM]

153. Can't help but point something out

I've got no dog in this fight. I don't know anything about a clique. If it does exist, it doesn't impact my DU experience at all.

But one of the posters you're remembering was a nasty piece of work. Out of nowhere they leveled a disgusting personal accusation against me and refused to back down after it was conclusively rebutted (this occurred outside of the lounge). I was glad when they were finally tombstoned. I got the impression they had a long history of personal attacks and disruption. Some people deserve what they get.

[bluedigger]

125. There's a lot of anxst and insecurity here.

I've been around long enough to see some drama play out, and always felt like the odd man out myself, but that's cool, because it's how I roll. I miss the folks that got bounced, they were fun, but if there is one flaw I've seen that will take someone down faster than anything, it's false pride. "I'm sorry" is a powerful tonic for hurt feelings.

And by the way, I noticed no one was checking receipts at the exit. To whom should I show mine?

[PamKlaus]

126. Now somewhere in the black mountain hills of Dakota there lived a young boy named Rocky Raccoon...

Oops, wrong song, wrong band. But Rocky did break some rules and got away with it. And everybody sing together now:

[RetroLounge]

150. ...

RL

[Tuesday Afternoon]

160. ...

TA

[kentauros]

154. "Rocky Raccoon"

Is that where Firesign Theater got the name "Rocky Rococo" for their Nick Danger piece?

Sure, I could "just google it", but I'm assuming you have that knowledge right-handy, so go ahead, enlighten me!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

157. howdy

enjoy your stay.

[PamKlaus]

163. Howdy! Thank you so much for the warm welcome!

The Stones are overrated IMHO. I prefer The Beatles. This is one of my favorite songs:

You said goodbye and then said hello

Hello, hello
I don't know why you said goodbye
Then said hello...

[MrScorpio]

131. ReaLLY?!?

Am I in?

[DFW]

132. Must be these guys. They and I went to different schools together.

[kentauros]

142. I noticed when I started posting regularly,

that those in GD and elsewhere, looked upon The Lounge with disdain. Seems that the cliquishness is on the other side of the fence, by my reckoning...

In fact, one such thread in GD that was attempting to "understand" some fun thread in The Lounge was what got me interested. It appears doing fun things like having a "Questions Only" thread was beyond the capacity of the average GD-denizen to comprehend, and it sucked me in. I had a lot of fun that evening, and I've never become a denizen of GD, thankfully

[Tuesday Afternoon]

148. Seems that the cliquishness is on the other side of the fence, by my reckoning... AMEN!!!!

thank you kentauros!!!!!!! this is EXACTLY what I am getting at!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kentauros]

156. You're wailcome!

The impression I've gotten for years from GD is that there's an overall "general attitude" that if you aren't a "regular" then you aren't worth noticing. Other than my (for me) massive "Texas and DU" thread there last year, I've never really been noticed over there. I am not a prolific poster really anywhere, even here, and I hate arguing for the sake of arguing, as is Standard Operating Procedure in GD and other such "big" forums.

If they say that they're a 'welcoming' bunch over there than here or elsewhere, then it must only be for those of a similar "overly-serious" mindset. Fun is not allowed!

[RetroLounge]

151. Of course there aren't any cliques

I mean, Wild Horses couldn't pull me away from that opinion and make me admit there were cliques in the lounge...



RL

[Tuesday Afternoon]

155. long time no see

Poetry Man.



TA

[PamKlaus]

164. Hum,

I think that the full name is Good Poetry Man. Have you ever heard of Rebecca Foust?



PK

[kentauros]

159. Well, to be honest, we do have "sharp noises" from time to time:

clique
1711, from Fr. clique, originally (14c.) "a sharp noise," from O.Fr. cliquer "click, clatter, crackle, clink," 13c., echoic. Apparently this word was at one time treated as the equivalent of claque (q.v.) and partook of that word's theatrical sense.