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UTUSN

(70,674 posts)
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:38 PM May 2015

O.K., I'm upset/disturbed over this tell-all over Judy GARLAND.

O.K., I knew she had a drug problem and was exploited. But my whole thing was that she was a great thing. So now this person says (insert "horrible things" here). Fine. O.K., talking TALENT here, let's make a list: Her, Piaf, (need I go on?!1) ...

This is really ugly.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/05/judy-garland-stevie-phillips-memoir

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O.K., I'm upset/disturbed over this tell-all over Judy GARLAND. (Original Post) UTUSN May 2015 OP
This writer, Stevie Phillips, is giving proceeds from this book to a good cause, right? RIGHT? NYC_SKP May 2015 #1
Talk about "exploitation" - exploitation to the next level n/t UTUSN May 2015 #2
She was crazy/needy in "love" for *THIS* a-hole?!1 UTUSN May 2015 #3
it gets even deeper and darker seveneyes May 2015 #4
Pollen allergies will do that. nt JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #6
That is some horrible writing. betsuni May 2015 #5
Really! Such hyperventilating - LiberalElite May 2015 #7
Tacky, tawdry, sordid ailsagirl May 2015 #8
I've known people messed up Judy Garland style. hunter May 2015 #9
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. This writer, Stevie Phillips, is giving proceeds from this book to a good cause, right? RIGHT?
Fri May 22, 2015, 09:46 PM
May 2015

.

Don't tell me that she's cashing in on the horrible things that went on behind closed doors.

UTUSN

(70,674 posts)
3. She was crazy/needy in "love" for *THIS* a-hole?!1
Fri May 22, 2015, 10:39 PM
May 2015


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Begelman

[font size=5]David Begelman[/font]

(August 26, 1921 – August 7, 1995) was a Hollywood producer who was involved in a studio embezzlement scandal in the 1970s. He was the father of one daughter, Leslie Robin Begelman.

Born in New York City, Begelman worked at the Music Corporation of America (MCA) for more than 11 years, eventually becoming vice president. He left in 1960 to co-found the talent agency Creative Management Associates (CMA) with Freddie Fields. Their clients included Jack Carter, Judy Garland, Barbra Streisand, Marilyn Monroe, Liza Minnelli, Woody Allen, Richard Burton, Peter Sellers, Gregory Peck, Henry Fonda, Rock Hudson, Carol Channing, and others.

He left CMA in 1973 to take over the floundering Columbia Pictures. Begelman recruited big-name stars from his former company, dramatically changing the company's image by producing such hits as Tommy (1975), Shampoo (1975), Murder by Death (1976), and Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977). Begelman became among the first Hollywood agents to cross over and rise to the top of the studio system. ,,,,

Rather than confront Begelman at a time when he was playing such a pivotal role in her show business re-emergence, Garland decided to eat the financial losses based upon the promise of millions coming from the deal with CBS. Once her show was cancelled, however, she and Luft sued Begelman for the hundreds of thousands he had allegedly stolen as well as $1 million in punitive damages. Due to her dire financial situation at the time, Garland was forced to settle the suit for royalties owed her by Capitol Records that Begelman and Fields, as her agents, had collected but were holding because of the lawsuit.

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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. Really! Such hyperventilating -
Sat May 23, 2015, 01:18 PM
May 2015

I never liked Judy Garland anyway. She gives me the creeps and I don't know why.

ailsagirl

(22,893 posts)
8. Tacky, tawdry, sordid
Sat May 23, 2015, 05:51 PM
May 2015

Last edited Sat May 23, 2015, 06:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Though I didn't read it all, I need a nice, long shower.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
9. I've known people messed up Judy Garland style.
Sat May 23, 2015, 06:22 PM
May 2015

It's just sad, even when they turn mean and reckless.



My own grandma had to be dragged out of her home by court order as a danger to herself and others, kicking, screaming, cussing, throwing things... biting and clawing at cops and paramedics.

Good God my grandma could cuss, like the World War II shipyard welder and late night party girl she was. Fortunately she was white and had forgotten where she had hidden the guns my mom hadn't taken away yet. Otherwise I'm certain the cops would have simply killed her. My grandma was true Wild West.

Or maybe, if I decide to think the best of my grandma, she'd decided not to exit this earth in a gunfight, although I can't claim the cancer that eventually killed her was much better.

When I was in college my girlfriend's girlfriend tried to kill herself in my scummy student apartment bathtub. I could write an entire novel about that twisted threesome relationship, but I never will.

Well maybe I might, in highly fictionalized form, no names.

My grandma played a starring roll in that horror too, it was shortly after she'd been kicked out of one of her "assisted living" homes, and she was living with my parents, and I came home for the holidays, but couldn't take any more of her. That was the very worst long weekend of my life, knock on wood.

My grandma wasn't a bad person, she even sent me $20 a week for food and other neccesities in my university education, but she was always an impossible person to live with.

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