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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:51 AM Sep 2015

"It is sung, played and written for the most part by cretinous goons..."

Sinatra Rocks! Ol’ Blue Eyes' Best, Worst and Surreal Pop Covers

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/sinatra-rocks-ol-blue-eyes-best-worst-and-surreal-pop-covers-20150203

In the Fifties, Sinatra made his contempt for rock more than obvious. In an article he wrote for a French magazine in 1957 — then widely reprinted in the U.S. — he decried what he called "the most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my displeasure to hear, and naturally I'm referring to the bulk of rock 'n' roll.... It fosters almost totally negative and destructive reactions in young people. It smells phony and false. It is sung, played and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic reiterations and sly, lewd — in plain fact, dirty — lyrics, and as I said before, it manages to be the martial music of every sideburned delinquent on the face of the earth." (Sinatra himself didn't exactly associate himself with the most wholesome characters on the planet, but that's another story.)

Roughly a decade later, with rock now commandeering the charts and crooners in danger of extinction, Sinatra softened a bit. From then through the early Eighties, he took periodic stabs at post-Elvis pop and rock songs: Paul Simon, Jim Croce, Neil Diamond, Jimmy Webb and Billy Joel all got the Ol' Blue Eyes treatment. Here are the surprising highlights — and surreal low points — of the times Sinatra tried to rock out.



Few moments embody the generation gap of the Sexties more than Sinatra's gin-and-tonic takeover of Simon & Garfunkel's hit from the soundtrack of The Graduate. The brassy-fanfare arrangement that tries to imitate Paul Simon's guitar lick is clunky enough. The uncredited rewrites of the lyrics are downright cringe-worthy: the way Sinatra inserts the name of his restaurateur pal Jilly Rizzo ("Jilly loves you more than you will know!&quot or the insertion of an all-new verse. "And you'll get yours, Mrs. Robinson — foolin' with that young stuff like you do... Boo hoo hoo!" — he cut the line about Joe DiMaggio for that?
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ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
1. He's On My All-Time Overrated List
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 11:18 AM
Sep 2015

I know i'm in the minority, but i think he was underwhelming in every way and later became a caricature of himself.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. It was kind of like when Elvis started covering Olivia Newton John songs
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 12:22 PM
Sep 2015

No disrespect to ONJ fans but we really didn't need an Elvis cover of "If You Love Me Let Me Know" any more than we needed Sinatra doing "Bad Bad Leroy Brown."

In the 50s, where most of Sinatra's prime post-Dorsey hits were recorded, I didn't consider him to be overrated at all, but once he hit the 60s and formed his own label (Reprise), that caricature thing began to take root.

Then there's his personal life, especially the way he treated women, as well as the mob ties. But that's a separate matter.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
3. Mob Ties? I Resemble That Remark!
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:25 PM
Sep 2015

No, really. We'll agree to disagree on his 50's stuff. At least then, he had less influence on the arrangements.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
4. I thought his acting talents were wonderful in "The Manchurian Candidate" Thought his singing...
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:57 PM
Sep 2015

...was better in his early years.
As far as Rock songs in the 50's and 60's ?...yeah, mostly Pretty lame, plus, some of the worst studio engineering I've ever heard.
"You used 1400 dollar Microphones and it sounds like a 12 dollar Mic from Radio Shack?"

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
5. Rock certainly didn't have the monopoly on, nor did it invent, lewd lyrics.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:06 PM
Sep 2015

Or did he consider blues to be rock too?

Tom Kitten

(7,342 posts)
6. In 1960 he reintrepeted "Old MacDonald Had A Farm"
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 05:55 PM
Sep 2015

This time all he had was a chick, though...With a curve here and a wiggle there, EIEIO

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. That album was missing even the slightest trace of irony
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 03:57 PM
Oct 2015

On paper, I thought it had the potential to KILL (I mean, look at those "Shatner Sings" albums...they are STILL legendary).

The Boone album was just stupid and boring, probably because he never really embraced the joke.

Same thing with Frankie Avalon in the Frankie/Annette movie "Bikini Beach." The intent was for him to lay bare his hatred / envy of The Beatles, so he came across as just looking stupid, and the "parody" wasn't funny at all.

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