The Walking Dead 6.2 "JSS" (spoiler alert)

[NewJeffCT]

huge spoilers in this description

As things begin to return to normal, a new problem arises for the Alexandrians.

[Baitball Blogger]

1. The wolves attack and Father Gabriel seeks redemption.

That's what I read here.

[NewJeffCT]

2. yes

I think there is an attack on the town while Rick and company are outside with the herd.

[bettyellen]

8. who is the crying girl in the car?

[NewJeffCT]

9. I believe it is Enid

Carl's tree buddy from last season.

[bettyellen]

10. Ahhh. I thought she looked vaguely familiar- thank you!

[NewJeffCT]

11. No problem

3 hours to go.

[bettyellen]

12. and I will have to check in with the Mets too.

[NewJeffCT]

3. Some articles from this past week

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/62720/20151017/walking-dead-season-6-5-burning-questions-want-answered-watching-episode-1.htm

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/16/walking-dead-sonequa-martin-green-sasha-season-6

http://www.eonline.com/news/707262/the-walking-dead-cast-gets-very-real-about-how-the-show-has-changed-them

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/10/walking-dead-zombie-pit/410881/

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/15/walking-dead-josh-mcdermitt-eugene-heath

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/darryl-woodard/the-walking-dead-season-6_b_8307224.html

[pinboy3niner]

4. I have to confess that I never look at these episode trailers

But I do read your live threads before the episode airs here on the west Coast.

[NewJeffCT]

5. That's partly how these Sunday night threads got started

we were discussing the episodes on here, and somebody had to work on a Sunday night, but wanted an update on what was happening because they could check DU at work, but not watch TV.

[pinboy3niner]

6. I love reading the comments, even though our airing is so late

The self-righteous with their 'Kill Your TV' BS don't know what they're missing.

[NewJeffCT]

7. eh

sometimes, after a long day at work, it's good to just plop down in front of the TV and watch something.

[bettyellen]

35. playing right into the hands of the oligarchy, we are!

[NewJeffCT]

13. A few more articles

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/10/18/theres-only-one-character-on-the-walking-dead-the-creator-says-he-wouldnt-kill/

http://www.etonline.com/news/174228_the_walking_dead_lauren_cohan_maggie_glenn_survive_season_5_exclusive/

http://www.bustle.com/articles/117417-what-does-jss-mean-on-the-walking-dead-the-episode-title-is-linked-to-the-mysterious

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/18/the-walking-dead-season-6-episode-2-jss/

[irisblue]

14. how do zombies make sounds?

air has to move past vocal cords to make speech, are they low level live enough to have oxygen exchange in their lungs to make sounds?

[NewJeffCT]

15. good question

the vocal chords may be intact enough to allow for the simple growling sound.

[irisblue]

16. The CDC ep

showed an reanimation during an MRI, of the brain, and I really couldn't see too well the spinal cord/brain junction. (Retired Radiologic Technologist here). The medulla oblagata, controls autonomic breathing marked on this stolen from the internet view shows the areas


so there must be enough biomechanical events in a zombies body/form to keep them low level alive.
I might be thinking too much about this, cause my next ?, since zombies eat, they have to poop, their colons and stomachs would eventually explode or rot as their outsides do.

[Baitball Blogger]

17. I thought it was just the build up of gasses.

But your explanation sounds more feasible.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

19. Whoa whoa whoa

I still haven't figured out how friction, or insects haven't halted the epidemic.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

18. Thankfully I have AMC this week!

Funny thing, I just turned on my tv, and it was still on AMC from last season's finale. Goes to show how much I watch tv!

[NewJeffCT]

21. glad you can watch it

maybe it's a "smart" TV that can sense what you want to watch?

[NewJeffCT]

20. just about to start

in a couple of minutes

[NewJeffCT]

22. opening with Enid in a car looking out

says "mom dad, we gotta go"

[NewJeffCT]

23. ouch

looks like mom and dad were zombie lunch. now she's out on here own. looks like another flashback?

[irisblue]

24. so that is how Enid came to Alexandria

[NewJeffCT]

25. what is this JSS?

I keep thinking JeSus Saves

[bettyellen]

30. Jump size set! That's how we check a variety of sizes of apparel, LOL.

[NewJeffCT]

32. Jack and Sarah Smith

her parent's initials?

[lunatica]

114. I think it's something like just stay safe

[NewJeffCT]

115. it was revealed later on in the show

Enid left a note for Carl - Just Survive Somehow.

[charlie and algernon]

26. mmm, tortoise!

[irisblue]

27. finally tall grass

[NewJeffCT]

29. in their spare time

the zombies eat the grass.

[NewJeffCT]

28. Looks like turtle is on the menu

for Enid tonight. she's outside the walls of Alexandria now.

[NewJeffCT]

31. opening ends with Enid entering Alexandria

poor kid.

[irisblue]

33. Carol doing tough love on that kid

[charlie and algernon]

34. Carol with the tough love

[bettyellen]

36. I love how teenagers are all still hormonal assholes. LOL.

[NewJeffCT]

38. yep

well, even if Dad was a dick, he was still their dad.

[NewJeffCT]

37. Back to the town

I guess this is before the horn was blown?

[charlie and algernon]

39. Doing a LOST homage, lol

Reveal something shocking. Next episode go back and show how said shocking thing happened.

[NewJeffCT]

41. never saw Lost

but, I guess the show was pretty popular

[bettyellen]

40. time keeps slipping, but they don't always show you that in B+W....

[NewJeffCT]

42. this week is all color

I keep thinking Carol is going to be Rambo again tonight.

[bettyellen]

47. I hope I hope I hope!

[charlie and algernon]

43. fuck what?!

[bettyellen]

44. WHOA! Machete murderer!!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

48. Wolves!

[irisblue]

45. a bit heavy on the tick tick symbolism

[Joe Shlabotnik]

46. I hope Carl handles jealousy issues better than his old man.

[NewJeffCT]

50. somehow, I think he's going to get all pissed off

and somebody will die as a result

[NewJeffCT]

49. Holy crap

Carol looks out the window and sees some guy smoking - the guy gets jumped and hacked with a machete! NO SMOKING in ALEXANDRIA!

Looks like the Wolves

[charlie and algernon]

52. I thought that was the woman that Carol told off earlier

not a guy/

[NewJeffCT]

54. I had gotten up for a minute

and was across the room, so couldn't quite tell.

[irisblue]

51. so that must be who set off the horn

[charlie and algernon]

53. I now think Carol set off the horn to alert the away team to get the fuck back ASAP

[NewJeffCT]

56. you may be right

it would be good thinking on her part

[bettyellen]

59. that was AWESOME!

[NewJeffCT]

60. I guess it wasn't Carol

it was an 18 wheeler to the wall.

[charlie and algernon]

55. There may not be many people left by the time the away team returns.

[bettyellen]

57. "that's how we were able to..." WHUT?

[NewJeffCT]

62. yep

like many suspected last year - she may be one of them

[bettyellen]

64. Oooooh. I am so dumb. Yeah, that fits.

[charlie and algernon]

58. well there we go. Now we know

[charlie and algernon]

61. Gotta say, that was an utterly heartbreaking scene between Carol and the other woman

[bettyellen]

63. she's gotten good at that. as has Rick.

[bettyellen]

65. CAROL!!!!

[Baitball Blogger]

78. She's the only one who knows what needs to be done.

Carol is responsible for more than a dozen kills, while Morgan has, what? Two?

Now he's trying to psych out the "W"s.

[NewJeffCT]

66. Carol dressed as a ninja

Morgan trying to stop her from getting the guns

[bettyellen]

67. Morgan has to grow up!

[NewJeffCT]

71. Right

the people in this world as worse than the Walkers

[bettyellen]

72. WOW!

[Baitball Blogger]

80. Someone is going to die because he allowed the W to leave with a gun.

I bet it's going to be Deanna.

[bettyellen]

87. Yep!

[NewJeffCT]

68. Carl to the rescue

of Ron, then he rejects staying safely inside. What an ass

[Baitball Blogger]

104. In fairness to him, he might have wanted to go and check on his mom and younger brother.

[NewJeffCT]

69. Jessie working out her anger issues

on the Wolf woman

[charlie and algernon]

70. such a dark, dark episode

[NewJeffCT]

73. A lot of death

I guess the cast was getting too big - like at the prison when all the Woodbury-ites moved in

[bettyellen]

74. I like it! Carol dressed up again, smearing herself with blood, LOL. LOVE IT!!!

[EL34x4]

122. For crying' out loud!

Can we nominate her for an Emmy already?

Melissa McBride had all but given up on acting, was working as a casting agent for local productions in Atlanta, when Frank Darabont gave her a call for a throwaway role in a TV series he was producing.

She was supposed to be killed off.

And now Carol Peletier is the most bad-ass woman on television.

[NewJeffCT]

75. How did Morgan get back from the quarry so quickly?

where is everybody else?

[NewJeffCT]

113. finally got an answer on this

Last episode, after that guy got his face bitten off, Rick sent Morgan back to town to say that they had to put the plan into action sooner than they expected. That's why he got back sooner.

[bettyellen]

76. Shoot em ALL CAROL!!! AND grab their machetes!!

[bettyellen]

79. shoot their backs Morgan!

[NewJeffCT]

77. Looks like Rick's crew is starting to turn the tide

Rosita, Carol, Maggie, etc

[Baitball Blogger]

82. Morgan turned out to be an idiot.

[NewJeffCT]

106. I'm sure it will come back to haunt him

though, he may have learned his lesson by the end.

[Baitball Blogger]

108. He's a Tyreese wth better survival skills.

His mantra can be maintained without compromise as long as he's a loner. But he is directly responsible for the attack on Alexandria because it would never have mattered that Aaron left that bag behind if Morgan had killed the Wolves the first time he saw them. I have to believe that Aaron understands this and, hopefully, will tell Rick.

Prediction: If more people fall because he refuses to kill, Rick will either banish him or Carol will bring him an especially charming bouquet of flowers.

[NewJeffCT]

109. I think with the ending, though

Morgan may be changing. At least that was the implication I got from him.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

81. I think we just met the person who will kill Morgan down the road.

[NewJeffCT]

86. I fear you may be right

though, I obviously hope you're wrong. That was pretty intense with him and those 5 Wolves

[NewJeffCT]

83. What did Morgan say

about where he learned how to use his staff? The cheesemaker?

[amerikat]

84. Blessed are the cheesemakers.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

85. LOL

[NewJeffCT]

88. Aaron finds the pictures he dropped

last season at the ambush site where they met Morgan

[bettyellen]

89. I forgot he dropped them....

[NewJeffCT]

90. this was a brutal episode

lots of blood, lots of death.

No Rick, no Michonne, no Daryl, no Abraham

[NewJeffCT]

91. Morgan gets jumped

by the guy he let go last year. he's learning what he needs to do

[Baitball Blogger]

105. Ah. So Morgan's kindness was as much responsible for all these killings as Aaron

for leaving the bag.

[Iris]

107. I cannot remember that scene

The one from last season where Morgan encounters that guy.

[charlie and algernon]

92. Wow, we really just did have a major battle without Rick, Michonne, Daryl, or Glen.

[NewJeffCT]

96. and, they "won"

though it was a Pyrrhic victory

[Joe Shlabotnik]

93. 'That' was the episode that I hoped we'd have had last week.

That.was.intense.

[NewJeffCT]

97. Yes

this episode played more like a season opener - at least compared to last year's season opener.

[Liberal Veteran]

94. Carol = MVP

She looks like she's close to breaking though.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

98. I love how Carol has become a master of disguise/perception

I hope down the road in season 15 she has to infiltrate a group of mimes or something.

[NewJeffCT]

99. Like Kevin Smith said, though

the only people left in town probably know she's a bad ass

[Joe Shlabotnik]

100. Quite right.

I never watch the talking dead; so little time to get ready for work tomorrow.

[irisblue]

95. sneak peek up on AMC.com

http://www.amc.com/shows/the-walking-dead/episodes/season-6/jss/story-sync/

[Joe Shlabotnik]

101. So was it ever revealed what "JSS" meant?

And by the way Enid is such an annoying teenage-twit.

[NewJeffCT]

102. Just Survive Somehow

Enid left a note for Carl with those 3 words on it

[Joe Shlabotnik]

103. doh!

thank you

[Baclava]

110. One of the best episodes - evar! Carol eats wolves for lunch.

But what the hell is wrong with Morgan? - why did he just let them go? To regroup? that's plain stupid...I don't care what his conscience told him - they are still a threat

[NewJeffCT]

111. if he didn't want to kill them

at least knock them out & take them prisoner.

Still, it was almost like one of those martial arts movies with the hero surrounded by a lot of bad guys, and the hero still kicks their asses.

[Baclava]

112. yup - they know all about the town, and the town still knows nothing about them, that can't be good

Unless Morgan used to run with them - then he can tell us

[EL34x4]

119. Yes it was!!!

The rest of the season is going to have some pretty big shoes to fill.

[Baclava]

116. I had to watch it again....I fear freaky girl Enid is in trouble

Usually when someone has a close-up segment into their lifestory, they die soon after.



Enid the red-lipped turtle sucker is more bad-ass than she lets on... a Wolf?...what's with all the keys?

[NewJeffCT]

117. On Talking Dead

she was asked if she would be back, and she couldn't say... but, she said that if she did come back, people would be pleasantly surprised. I took it to mean pleasantly surprised at her character, not her coming back.

Maybe she was a Wolf, but hung around in Alexandria so often that the safety (and Carl) got to her? If she has been there for months, it seems unlike the Wolves because they don't seem like long-term planners.

[Baclava]

120. thanks - just got around to watching the Talking Dead - it explained some things about Enid

Recap




http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/201...d-kevin-smith/

Chris asks how long Enid was on her own and she says just a week or two. She says enough to where she got into survival instincts.

Just Survive Somehow. Chris asks about JSS. She says in her head it was something she thinks her parents told her that a lot.

Chris asks Katelyn why Enid has every key in Alexandria and says she knew it wasn’t going to last so was making escape plans and keys help with that.

Katelyn gets a question about Enid’s relationship with Carl. She says it was genuine and that was part of why she left because she can’t go through loss again

Katelyn says she hopes Enid will be back and if they do, they may be pleasantly surprised

[Tripper11]

118. Morgan knows the Wolves

I heard this from one of the wolves to Morgan during the attack, "You live here?"
I couldn't remember how or when in the series he had his initial encounter.
A little googling jarred my memory.

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/16/the-walking-dead-how-do-the-wolves-know-morgan-/

[Solly Mack]

121. Just watched. Been busy getting my house ready for Halloween.

Carol - badass. Smart cookie. No more Betty Crocker. She's the Martha Stewart of butchering by disguise.
Morgan - YOU.HAVE.TO.KILL. Sorry, man. That's just the way it is now.

Those idiots you allowed to live? They WILL be back.

Jessie went berserk. Good! Hope she can absorb what she had to do and not allow it to hobble her.

Ron. Ron, Ron, Ron. Get over it already.

And it all happened in the time it takes to bake a casserole.

I've been busy making masks (paper mache) to tuck away in the shrubbery with chem lights inside.

[NewJeffCT]

123. Carol was great

I thought it was a little more realistic than her Rambo act that started Season 5.

Agree on those guys that Morgan let escape.

Ron's a hormonal teenager - even the apocalypse can't stop that.

Cool idea with the masks with chem lights inside.

[Solly Mack]

124. His hormones aside, he strikes me as weak. Sam, for all his timidness, seems stronger.

He wanted a gun. He was willing to act to save his Mom. He knows Carol isn't the happy homemaker (Why, Mrs. Peletier, your canned ham with cola....) and still wants to be around her. Carol fights it but she likes Sam. For all that, Ron will probably survive and Sam will die. Jessie is to her children what Rick is to his...that's how they became the Grimes Bunch. (Sorry)

Carol's smoking kills was priceless....though death by machete isn't listed on the pack.

Deanna looks defeated.

Maggie is doing for her what Hershel did for Rick - work the earth.

Wonder where Enid went? Back from whence she came? A den or maybe the top of a hill somewhere?

That poor turtle.

[NewJeffCT]

125. Not sure about Enid

The initial speculation was that she was a spy for the Wolves, but I don't think so now. They don't seem like the types that plan that far ahead.

She could also be a spy for the Hilltop community that they'll be meeting in the 2nd half of the season.

or, she could just be a scrappy survivor.

[Solly Mack]

126. I want her to be good.

I worried she was a spy because she is definitely more than she appears.

[Baitball Blogger]

127. She mentioned on Talking Dead that we may see her again and that we would be

pleasantly surprised.

Is the Hilltop gang good people?

[NewJeffCT]

128. spoilers below

Swipe to the right [font color=white] Yes, they are good people and one of several communities in the DC area that trade with each other. However, soon after they go to Hilltop is when they meet The Saviors and Negan. [/font]