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nolabear

(41,959 posts)
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:23 PM May 2016

I need a place to have a nice, quiet nervous breakdown: UPDATED

Last edited Sat May 7, 2016, 02:03 PM - Edit history (1)

I haven't put this on any social media because I don't want to invade my son's privacy but since this is relatively anonymous I need to talk.

My son has Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome. He's 29 and had his first bout with intractable throwing up when he was two. It stopped for a few years but when he was about fifteen it started again and he has an attack once or twice a year ever since. He starts and literally can't stop. Sometimes he throws up, violently, every few minutes until the ER (yes, we end up in the ER) docs can get enough drugs into him to stop it and literally make him pass out for hours, until it passes. He's had everything you can name, Zofran, Atavan, xanax, phenergan, imitrex (because it's thought to be migraine related) and a host of other things.

So generally this happens, we stop it, he goes home the next day. Every now and then they send him home too soon and he has to go back, but they get it under control and he resumes his healthy, active life.

This time he has spent six of the last eight days in the hospital. They can stop it but they can't make it stay stopped. He's an incredible trooper but he's beginning to look desperate and I feel desperate. I'm home from the hospital while Mr. Bear stays with him until, we hope, he settles in for the night.

But frankly I'm scared shitless. I guess it's not possible for it to never stop but this is horrifying. And though we'll go back to doctors and maybe they'll come up with something to keep it from starting again, it's hard not to just freak the hell out.

Thanks for listening. Please throw up a good thought for my kid. He's such a good man and I don't know what's going to happen.

nolabear

Update: Following morning. They had to put a midline in since his veins can't handle any more IVs. That's good news. They can start the IV fluids and drugs again. He didn't sleep much I'm told but seems to be settling down some. We haven't been over because we want him to sleep. Sleep cures this. But we're staying checked in and I'll let you all know.

The good thoughts, vibes, prayers and caring words are like a tonic to me, though, and what's good for the mama is good for the kid. Many thanks to you all.

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I need a place to have a nice, quiet nervous breakdown: UPDATED (Original Post) nolabear May 2016 OP
K & R ...... Wounded Bear May 2016 #1
Thanks. It's good to hear. I'll regain perspective somewhere in here. nolabear May 2016 #2
Understood... Wounded Bear May 2016 #4
Your poor son. 2theleft May 2016 #3
Thanks. I feel like we have to re-educate the doctors every time he goes in. nolabear May 2016 #8
That sounds just awful! I'm so sorry for your son The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #5
I appreciate it. I'm not above begging for sympathy right now. nolabear May 2016 #9
good thoughts to your son fizzgig May 2016 #6
Thanks. I should hang in The Lounge more often. People are nicer here. nolabear May 2016 #10
Oh, man. I am so sorry. blogslut May 2016 #7
Whoof. You know somehow they never stop being your baby. nolabear May 2016 #11
Yeah. You have to keep on them. blogslut May 2016 #12
Pardon me, but --Fuckers!-- LuvLoogie May 2016 #16
I hope he gets relief soon. MissB May 2016 #13
Thank you. I hope so too. I appreciate the positive thoughts! nolabear May 2016 #17
How frightening that is... feeling powerless to help our children is just the worst Little_Wing May 2016 #14
We'll get on top of it. Yes, 29 feels like 2 when they're sick. Thanks for the good thoughts! nolabear May 2016 #19
I had to Google that Skittles May 2016 #15
No but I am going to encourage him to seek support. He wants to deny it. nolabear May 2016 #20
men in general can be very resistant to medical intervention Skittles May 2016 #22
is this considered a rare disease? grasswire May 2016 #23
I am so sorry to hear that your family and your son are going through this. I know about denial. mnhtnbb May 2016 #29
Thank you. I'm sorry for your men's troubles too. nolabear May 2016 #45
Peace, Love & Wellness LuvLoogie May 2016 #18
Merci beaucoup. nolabear May 2016 #21
Sounds terrible and so exhausting! Wishing for support and relief for you and your son... Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #24
Yes. He hasn't pursued it but I hope he will now. nolabear May 2016 #31
Sending good vibes your way nolabear. In_The_Wind May 2016 #25
... nolabear May 2016 #32
Breaks my heart. I am so sorry he and you all are going through this. You have my silvershadow May 2016 #26
We're thinking even trying acupuncture if we can get him on board. nolabear May 2016 #33
that sounds just awful....poor guy magical thyme May 2016 #27
No. But I'll look it up. We and they have always linked it to migraine. nolabear May 2016 #34
iirc, it's a classic symptom magical thyme May 2016 #43
I am sorry nolabear. redwitch May 2016 #28
Thanks. That means a lot. nolabear May 2016 #35
What a difficult illness. I'm so sorry. femmocrat May 2016 #30
Don't mind a bit. I figure all positive is helpful. nolabear May 2016 #36
I can't believe you said Phentex May 2016 #37
BWAH! A funny aside... nolabear May 2016 #38
That's really cool! Phentex May 2016 #39
Omigod, my dear nolabear, I had no idea! CaliforniaPeggy May 2016 #40
Thanks Peggy. I'm staying off of other media with it, for his sake. nolabear May 2016 #46
Der Bear family, oldandhappy May 2016 #41
What a coincidence. I just threw out a newspaper article about CVS. mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #42
Oh yeah, we know. It's not something I'd wish on anyone. nolabear May 2016 #47
(((((Big vibes ))))) I'm so sorry to hear this. riderinthestorm May 2016 #44
can't be much worse than feeling so helpless as your child goes through this rurallib May 2016 #48

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
2. Thanks. It's good to hear. I'll regain perspective somewhere in here.
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:50 PM
May 2016

But I might freak out a while first.

Wounded Bear

(58,626 posts)
4. Understood...
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:12 AM
May 2016

as a parent, I'm lucky, my daughter is healthy with two sons so far.

I can only imagine the kind of pain you're feeling.

Again, best wishes.

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
3. Your poor son.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

And you and Mr. Bear, too. Sounds so stressful for everyone. It's never easy seeing someone you love in pain and not feeling well and not being able to do anything. Sending positive thoughts out to you all. Hang in there and keep us updated.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
8. Thanks. I feel like we have to re-educate the doctors every time he goes in.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:32 AM
May 2016

I almost fought one last week who lectured me on how they didn't have beds and he should go home during a lull. He ended up being there two days.

blogslut

(37,997 posts)
7. Oh, man. I am so sorry.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:31 AM
May 2016

blogslut jr had an epileptic epiglottis thing when she was a baby. Couldn't keep food down. They treated her with meds and she had to sleep on her tummy strapped to a wedge. I can't imagine what life would be like if the condition continued throughout her whole life.

My heart goes out to you and your family.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
11. Whoof. You know somehow they never stop being your baby.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:37 AM
May 2016

I wish I had more confidence in the medical folks. Some are great and some just seem uninterested in hearing what we know works.

Thanks for the good wishes.

blogslut

(37,997 posts)
12. Yeah. You have to keep on them.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:42 AM
May 2016

I kept taking her to the emergency room night after night, week after week and they looked at me like I had munchausen's by proxy. Finally the day clinic (same hospital) calls me to tell me she has a legit condition and I better get it treated or they'll call child services on me. WTF?

MissB

(15,805 posts)
13. I hope he gets relief soon.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:02 AM
May 2016

Long lasting relief. And I hope you are able to sigh with utter relief sometime very soon. As a parent, I know it sucks to not be able to make them better, but I can only begin to imagine how difficult this must be for you. I'm sending many positive thoughts in your direction.

Little_Wing

(417 posts)
14. How frightening that is... feeling powerless to help our children is just the worst
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:13 AM
May 2016

My son will be 29 next month and I'm constantly surprised at my wanting to save him from the "bad" things in life, but he's never faced anything like this.

You are such a warrior! thank goodness he has you for support and love, for facing such a struggle alone would be devastating. Sending you lots good feelings and blessings, nolabear. You all will be in my thoughts.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
20. No but I am going to encourage him to seek support. He wants to deny it.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:41 AM
May 2016

You know, young man, otherwise heathy, doesn't want this to be real. But maybe this'll be a bit of a come-to-Jesus.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
22. men in general can be very resistant to medical intervention
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:56 AM
May 2016

us gals have to push them along sometimes; yes INDEED

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
29. I am so sorry to hear that your family and your son are going through this. I know about denial.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:25 AM
May 2016

My 26 year old son has Stargardt's disease--which is a juvenile, genetic form of macular degeneration--
which had a sudden onset at age 9 when he lost significant sight. He is legally blind and sees
with his peripheral vision. Obviously, there are things he can't do, but if you meet him, until you watch him
for a while, you wouldn't realize he's legally blind because he doesn't lead with letting you know it. So, denial,
yes, I understand that in a young man who appears to be perfectly healthy.

And now my husband is going through what looks like--from putting together early symptoms--Lewy Body Dementia.
He is in huge denial about it. He'll admit to the Parkinson's symptoms, but really avoids acknowledging the
cognitive symptoms. So, more denial.

When I first began to suspect that he might be showing early signs of LBD, I was pointed to an on-line resource
for the LBD Association. They have a list of MD's that are on an advisory council. Turns out that one of them
was in our own backyard and that's who I requested our primary doc refer him to when he was referred to a neurologist.
We have been seeing him for the last year--3 times now--and are very pleased with him. LBD is a difficult diagnosis to
make and is missed frequently until it has progressed quite a bit.

This is a long way around agreeing with the recommendation that you and your son really investigate the CVSA that was
mentioned upthread. There will undoubtedly be excellent resources available. I clicked through the site and found
Mollie's story particularly interesting: http://cvsaonline.org/blog/ You will note that Dr. David Fleisher, MD, a pediatric gastroenterologist from the University of Missouri, Columbia
that Mollie's mom mentions in her post is on the list of medical resources to the association, although he is now retired. There is an e-mail for him, and you might want to get
in touch with the organization to see if there is an MD in your local area that is recommended. Finding a knowledgeable doc to care for your son is really important.

Good luck with all of this. Hang in there. Finding the right resources can make all the difference in being able to handle the stress of living with this.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
45. Thank you. I'm sorry for your men's troubles too.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

Good resources though. I'll encourage him to look them up.

Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
24. Sounds terrible and so exhausting! Wishing for support and relief for you and your son...
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:36 AM
May 2016

I'm sure you already know about this, but I looked it up and found this:

Supporting Organizations

Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome Association
1050 W Bluemound Road, Suite 106
Milwaukee, WI 53226 USA
Phone: (414) 342-7880
Email: cvsa@cvsaonline.org
Website: http://www.cvsaonline.org

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
31. Yes. He hasn't pursued it but I hope he will now.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

Any help or support would be welcome. At least to me.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
26. Breaks my heart. I am so sorry he and you all are going through this. You have my
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:22 AM
May 2016

thoughts and prayers this morning. Having watched numerous episodes of Real Stories of the ER and other medical mystery shows, I urge you to keep reaching out...find every medical professional to consult with...Many things have been solved this way, some with a desperate email to people around the world. Just some humble advice...take it or don't, my prayers remain Blessings.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
33. We're thinking even trying acupuncture if we can get him on board.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

He's a stubborn 29 year old who doesn't want this to be real. This one might just convince him.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
27. that sounds just awful....poor guy
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:50 AM
May 2016
to him, you and all your family.

Not looking for answer or to intrude, but have his doctors looked into mitochondrial disease?

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
34. No. But I'll look it up. We and they have always linked it to migraine.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

Thanks for the idea. I'm into looking at everything.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
28. I am sorry nolabear.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:06 AM
May 2016

It's an awful thing to have to worry about your child and especially when doing everything you can do doesn't feel like enough. Hang in there, I'm pulling for him.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
30. What a difficult illness. I'm so sorry.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:21 AM
May 2016

I send your son and you the very best thoughts and wishes for good health.

I have recently been through a life-threatening health crisis with my eldest son. We never stop worrying about them. My prayers for you both, if you do not mind.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
36. Don't mind a bit. I figure all positive is helpful.
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016

You're right, they're always part of you. Hope your son is doing well.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
37. I can't believe you said
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:07 PM
May 2016

"Please throw up a good thought for my kid."

But I will send you positive vibes and I do hope you get some answers soon.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
38. BWAH! A funny aside...
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

Hey, if it works...

A funny aside, I have a friend who went to Jazz Fest this past weekend, knowing I was insanely jealous. He asked if he could bring me anything from back home. I jokingly said (son hadn't gotten sick at this point) that I wanted a voodoo candle because I'm working on a short story about a woman whose spells skip around and I figured it would inspire. You might not know but Jazz Fest was damn near rained out, wild thunderstorms. He sort of randomly picked out a candle for me in a shop he went into to escape from the storms, based on the fact that he thought it was pretty. It was "Santa Barbara Africana," a virgin saint whose story sounded a lot like Rapunzel. But I know my voodoun, and that the picture didn't match the story, so I looked up who it really was. (Voodoo hid a lot of their practices behind Catholicism) It's really Mama Erzulie Danto, who is a fierce lwa, known as a wild woman who's deeply protective of her children. You know she's there by the presence of thunderstorms, and she casts her curses by...yep...throwing up blood.

I'm not a believer but I appreciate a good story, and maybe I feel a leeeeetle better thinking Mama Erzulie Danto is around.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,566 posts)
40. Omigod, my dear nolabear, I had no idea!
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016

My heart goes out to you and your son as you get through this awful time.

I really REALLY hope he has his come-to-Jesus moment and decides it's time to take this seriously so he can be rid of it!

Look at all the great ideas and resources that have been posted since you decided to speak up about your pain! So much good here that will hopefully help.

You have my complete support, dear girl.



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nolabear

(41,959 posts)
46. Thanks Peggy. I'm staying off of other media with it, for his sake.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:06 PM
May 2016

I'm in the room with him now. He looks like hell but is sleeping, albeit restlessly. No barfing for the two hours I've been here though! Fingers crossed!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,376 posts)
42. What a coincidence. I just threw out a newspaper article about CVS.
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:02 PM
May 2016

I'm clearing out old newspapers. I had saved all these articles that I never had the time to read.

Saving old papers is one of the worst forms of hoarding, and I need to get a handle on it. That's a story for another day.

I had never heard of the syndrome until I saw the article.

Your son is not the only one.

Years of vomiting began when child was just an infant

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
47. Oh yeah, we know. It's not something I'd wish on anyone.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:08 PM
May 2016

It'll likely be ages before it strikes again. When he's fine, he's fine.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
48. can't be much worse than feeling so helpless as your child goes through this
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016

well, I will offer my hopes for a miracle cure.

Since that isn't likely i hope your family continues to have the strength to deal with it all.

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