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fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 09:53 PM May 2016

attempt three at quitting smoking and it's much harder than before

money has gotten tight and the husband wound up in the hospital with complications from pneumonia which means we have no business continuing to smoke.

i, again, am doing the vapor pen and that worked wonderfully the first two times but is not making a damned lick of difference this time. it's day three and i am so pissy and agitated that i would cut a motherfucker for a smoke right now.

i know this will pass but i didn't think it would be harder this time around.

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attempt three at quitting smoking and it's much harder than before (Original Post) fizzgig May 2016 OP
Have you tried the patch? elleng May 2016 #1
i did during a hospital stay many years ago fizzgig May 2016 #3
I think you are going to do it this time 4now May 2016 #2
i hope so fizzgig May 2016 #4
Fourth time was the charm for me Generic Brad May 2016 #5
hey fizzgig Skittles May 2016 #6
part of it this time is boredom fizzgig May 2016 #18
see, there you have identified a trigger Skittles May 2016 #37
What strength vape juice are you using? ohnoyoudidnt May 2016 #7
I would echo this question BlueSpot May 2016 #9
he was in weekend before last fizzgig May 2016 #20
I wonder about this too... Contrary1 May 2016 #13
i'm at 24 mg right now since it's the highest i can find locally fizzgig May 2016 #21
That's a good strength. ohnoyoudidnt May 2016 #27
24 mg fizzgig May 2016 #19
Wellbutrin worked PasadenaTrudy May 2016 #8
not sure that's an option fizzgig May 2016 #22
Yeah.. PasadenaTrudy May 2016 #35
I recommend Chantix... TipTok May 2016 #10
thanks fizzgig May 2016 #23
Then maybe the wellbutrin... TipTok May 2016 #26
Are you drinking MASSIVE AMOUNTS of water? I mean MASSIVE??? MADem May 2016 #11
i'm super bad at drinking water fizzgig May 2016 #24
Me, too. It's like a chore when I need to hydrate! MADem May 2016 #33
Good luck hibbing May 2016 #12
thanks fizzgig May 2016 #28
Did you know your body is no longer "addicted' to nicotine within 48 hours after your last underahedgerow May 2016 #14
Chantax was a miracle for me! Like nothing I'd ever experienced. I was so addicted Upthevibe May 2016 #15
Someone told me 72 hours, but I agree w/the principle totally. MADem May 2016 #34
But tell us how you really feel... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #16
my best to you and your wife fizzgig May 2016 #29
and thank you, too discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2016 #32
Hang in there! mnhtnbb May 2016 #17
i'm sorry to hear about your husband fizzgig May 2016 #30
Put them down and don't pick them up again...no matter what. Iggo May 2016 #25
thank you fizzgig May 2016 #31
I had to join a 12-step program to quit. Laffy Kat May 2016 #36
cheated and had a couple at work today fizzgig May 2016 #38
That's OK. Laffy Kat May 2016 #39
I made it on the second attempt. hay rick May 2016 #40

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
3. i did during a hospital stay many years ago
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:02 PM
May 2016

it just really threw me off. husband is using the patch and he put on his jackass drawers today.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
5. Fourth time was the charm for me
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:22 PM
May 2016

My wife had a smoking related health scare. i figure we get one warning shot before disaster overtakes. I went cold turkey that day and have not gone back. Just walked away from a 25 year tobacco habit and have not looked back.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
6. hey fizzgig
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

try to learn something from each episode, about what triggers you and have a plan for it next time....one thing that really helped is that one by one, I stopped smoking in specific places - my car, my home, and I had to be awake for a while before I lit up, etc.....breaking the patterns

it took seven attempts for me until if finally stuck

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
18. part of it this time is boredom
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

i've just had too much time to think about it. i know i can do this but it'll take work.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
37. see, there you have identified a trigger
Tue May 17, 2016, 07:59 PM
May 2016

now you address it, by making a list of things to do instead of smoking......fizzgig, those cravings seem overwhelming but ride one out and time it - the intensity does not last as long as you think

BlueSpot

(855 posts)
9. I would echo this question
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:41 PM
May 2016

Plus, if hubby is in the hospital, that's added stress and less freedom to use your vape unit (I'm assuming you're spending time at the hospital). I used vaping as my quit method and was successful. In your case, the timing sucks. Honestly, if I knew the situation was (mid or long-term) going to make me unsuccessful, I would postpone the attempt to quit until things settled down. There's no benefit in setting yourself up to fail.

OTOH, you can't let yourself use that excuse when it isn't real. Only you know.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
20. he was in weekend before last
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

i can't justify smoking when he's hooked up to oxygen and trying to quit himself. plus, given that he hasn't worked for a month, i'd have to buy the cigs on the credit card and i can't justify that, either.

this wasn't quite planned this time around, it just kinda happened.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
13. I wonder about this too...
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:33 AM
May 2016

Make sure the strength and flavor mimics whatever cigarette you were smoking. Go to your local vape shop, and ask to sample a few before you buy. You can cut back later, when your stress level isn't so high.

Don't even think about giving up, I was finally able to kick 40+ years of smoking this way.
Good luck!

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
21. i'm at 24 mg right now since it's the highest i can find locally
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:42 AM
May 2016

my boss is a vaping nut and is going to set me up with some nicer gear and some liquid since all i'm using is a cheapie one.

thanks for the support

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
27. That's a good strength.
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:10 PM
May 2016

Maybe you got a bad batch with a lower potency than it says. I have seen it as high as 36 online. alienvapor.com is one site that sells it that high. Hopefully what your boss sets you up with works better. Good luck.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
22. not sure that's an option
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

i take three different meds for bipolar disorder and am not sure how those would interact but will talk to the doc when i can get together money for the copay.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
10. I recommend Chantix...
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:57 PM
May 2016

Turned off all the fun bits of the nicotine and I was able to quit Copenhagen for about two years...

Staff work has brought me back but I'll go back to it when I'm ready.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
23. thanks
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:45 AM
May 2016

i take meds for bipolar and i'm not sure how those would all play together. i'll touch base withy psych when i can.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. Are you drinking MASSIVE AMOUNTS of water? I mean MASSIVE???
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:19 AM
May 2016

You gotta flush that nicotine out of your system if you really want to be free of that addiction.

If you're just trying to stop the "smoking" part, and aren't ready to kiss the nicotine goodbye, see if you can get a prescription for nicotine patches (cheaper than paying for them if you have a good prescription plan). Or try the gum. Or the lozenges.

They taste like hell but they reduce the craving. Then you can work on dropping the coffin-nail-in-the-mouth habit, and at that point you've broken the "smoking" cycle--the next step is reducing your intake of nicotine gradually.

Good luck, it's not easy.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
24. i'm super bad at drinking water
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

but certainly makes sense that it'll help. i was going to call the insurance company to see what kind of support they can provide.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. Me, too. It's like a chore when I need to hydrate!
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

Sometimes I throw some lemon in it to mix it up!

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
14. Did you know your body is no longer "addicted' to nicotine within 48 hours after your last
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:43 AM
May 2016

cigarette?

In spite of what the patch and nicorette manufacturers want you to believe, it doesn't take 2 weeks for nicotine to leave your body. Like most other substances, it's within 48 hours.

All the rest, the cravings, the yearnings, it's psychological habit, not chemical addiction.

If you can overcome the habit and replace it within 8 weeks, you're done with smoking for as long as you want to be.

Upthevibe

(8,030 posts)
15. Chantax was a miracle for me! Like nothing I'd ever experienced. I was so addicted
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:59 AM
May 2016

and I can't speak highly enough about it. The biggest side effect for me was weird dreams but they were actually kind of interesting.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
16. But tell us how you really feel...
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:01 AM
May 2016


The fight for freedom of any kind but especially against a habit or addiction is truly a war. You may find strength in the act of helping others in the same fight but you won't know that unless you try.

A war is fought by many but won by warriors. What Heraclitus said about warriors: "Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back."

My wife is in battle with cancer. Don't give up.

mnhtnbb

(31,377 posts)
17. Hang in there!
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:25 AM
May 2016

I quit years and years ago, but was never really 'hooked'. Social smoker. Went with the cocktail.

My husband has probably quit 100 times in the 31 years we've been married. Stress triggers his smoking. He smokes for a week or two,
quits, and 3 or 5 or 6 months later something else triggers it and he's back smoking again...and then quits again. Now his inability to quit
is scaring me because he's in the early stages of some kind of neurological disease process that has dementia implications. Scares
the crap out of me that we'll have another fire related to an unattended cigarette or ashes dropped outside.

So, whatever you need to do to quit, do it. You have to figure out what triggers wanting a cigarette once the nicotine is out of your system.

Hang in there!

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
30. i'm sorry to hear about your husband
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

stress is a big trigger for me and i need to find another coping mechanism.

Iggo

(47,545 posts)
25. Put them down and don't pick them up again...no matter what.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:51 AM
May 2016

No matter what.

I know it's hard. But that's the only foolproof way to quit. Stop and don't start again. No matter what.

When you make the transition in your mind that you're not quitting smoking but that you quit smoking, it gets easier.

(And I'm no doubt telling you stuff that you already know, so...)

Good Luck, and I hope it sticks this time!

Laffy Kat

(16,376 posts)
36. I had to join a 12-step program to quit.
Tue May 17, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

This was 26 years ago and it worked. I never finished all the steps but just having all that support helped me tremendously. Look, if I can do it, you can do it. Minute at a time, hour at a time, day at a time. And don't beat yourself up if you slip, just get back up on the horse. It's a process.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
38. cheated and had a couple at work today
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

most of the people i work with smoke and bumming one is like shooting fish in a barrel.

i was super agitated again today but i realized today it might have more to do with being premenstrual

hay rick

(7,600 posts)
40. I made it on the second attempt.
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:22 PM
May 2016

First attempt I thought I was ok after a week of not smoking...then I tried to emulate a friend who smoked 1 or 2 cigarettes a day. Two days later I was back to 2 packs a day. Five years later I quit as a New Year's resolution and made it stick- 35+ years and counting.

Had a friend who never quit straight into emphysema and oxygen. Went to his funeral and he had a pack of Lucky Strikes stuck in his suit jacket and a $2 bill in his hand...

Good luck.

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