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Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:15 PM Jun 2016

Ugh, I have to buy a new built-in dishwasher. Any recommendations?

Last edited Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:56 PM - Edit history (1)

I keep thinking I find one and then I start reading reviews.

Besides cleaning well, I just need one that comes in black and is fairly quiet. Doesn't have to be whisper. It's just that I often work from home and my office is open and right next to the kitchen. Price $400ish.

Thanks for any (good or dear Lord, don't buy that one!) recommendations

UPDATE: bought the Bosch. Thanks everyone!
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Ugh, I have to buy a new built-in dishwasher. Any recommendations? (Original Post) Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 OP
Don't buy a Bosch. GermanDem Jun 2016 #1
The buttons fell off. Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #9
Love my Bosch Major Nikon Jun 2016 #14
You and several others! Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #20
I love mine, too. herding cats Jun 2016 #43
There's lots of mine fields with trying to evaluate dishwashers Major Nikon Jun 2016 #44
And for my 10,000 post.... Lochloosa Jun 2016 #2
Ooo! Thank you! Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #10
Thanks. Been trying to come up with something... Lochloosa Jun 2016 #21
Aw Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #22
I recently bought a Sears Kenmore, 13222. Make sure you get one with a stainless steel interior uppityperson Jun 2016 #3
I've heard about the ss interior Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #11
I second your recommendation on the SS interior. Aerows Jun 2016 #29
I have a Bosch and I love it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #4
Oh no! Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #12
I suppose every manufacturer produces a dud now and then. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #17
Yes, more Bosch votes below. Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #19
Bosch makes great stuff Aerows Jun 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #39
With the Bosch we didn't like GermanDem Jun 2016 #47
I have a Bosch and I love it. VERY quiet mnhtnbb Jun 2016 #5
Wow, thanks! Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #13
GE sucks LiberalEsto Jun 2016 #6
Stuff just isn't as good as it used to be. Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #15
GE is horrible. Aerows Jun 2016 #31
We have a Bosch mithnanthy Jun 2016 #7
Another Bosch vote. Thanks! /nt Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #16
My den is also close to the kitchen dixiegrrrrl Jun 2016 #8
Oh my! Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #18
It leaked enough that we noticed it under the sink. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2016 #25
Oh, good! Those leaks spread fast! /nt Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #33
We've been happy with this one ... GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #23
Thanks! /nt Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #24
Buying a GE appliance Aerows Jun 2016 #32
Don't you have any kids? panader0 Jun 2016 #26
Ha! Off to college, soon, so not an option. /nt Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #27
Teah, mine are grown and gone now. Fewer dishes. panader0 Jun 2016 #28
Yay, kittehs! /nt Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #34
I'm the dishwasher in our home...... a kennedy Jun 2016 #35
Dayum, I'm sick of washing dishes Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #40
We buy our appliances in the scratch and dent or open box section. nclib Jun 2016 #36
Your lucky day on that dishwasher! mnhtnbb Jun 2016 #37
Wow! Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #41
We've also gotten appliances from nclib Jun 2016 #48
One feature I wish I had gotten NewEnglandGirl Jun 2016 #38
I'm liking the idea of an Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #42
UPDATE Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #45
Most are the same with different fronts MosheFeingold Jun 2016 #46
Yes, the ss inside seems to be a hit! Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #49
Probably depends on where you live MosheFeingold Jun 2016 #50
Whatever you choose shanti Jun 2016 #51
Aw, you're just a smidge too late Sweet Freedom Jun 2016 #52

GermanDem

(168 posts)
1. Don't buy a Bosch.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jun 2016

I know it always gets the highest ratings, but we hated ours. Never cleaned properly, and after a couple of years the front panel with the buttons just came off one day!

We now have a Kitchen Aid, and I really like it. Kenmore (Sears brand) is also pretty good I hear.

Major Nikon

(36,817 posts)
14. Love my Bosch
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:06 PM
Jun 2016

I've owned it for a few years now. Quiet enough you barely hear it running. Washes quite well.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
43. I love mine, too.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jun 2016

It's a few years old and has never given me a moment of grief. Cleans well, and quiet.

Major Nikon

(36,817 posts)
44. There's lots of mine fields with trying to evaluate dishwashers
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jun 2016

I haven't seen any that get consistently high reviews. There's always a number of people who are never going to be satisfied with them no matter how well they work. Much depends on how you use it and what type of detergent is used.

Lochloosa

(16,055 posts)
2. And for my 10,000 post....
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jun 2016

I've been perfectly happy with my 2 year old Kenmore from Sears...and they have a hellva deal right now on the whisper

Retail 709....on sale for 449.00 Hard to beat that.

http://www.sears.com/kenmore-24inch-built-in-dishwasher-w-stainless-steel/p-02213229000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

I've always had good luck with Kenmore.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
3. I recently bought a Sears Kenmore, 13222. Make sure you get one with a stainless steel interior
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jun 2016

as they are quieter. I've been very happy with this model, it has a couple filters that can be cleaned, which I appreciate. It works, has several options and cycles.
http://www.kenmore.com/products/kenmore-13222-24-built-in-dishwasher-w-powerwave-8482-spray-arm-white?taxon_id=4416

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,547 posts)
4. I have a Bosch and I love it.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jun 2016

I've had it for about 3 years. It's very quiet; it gets the dishes much cleaner than my old dishwasher (a Kenmore, I think?), and I've had absolutely no trouble at all with it. My brother also got a Bosch (newer and fancier than mine) and they have also been very happy with it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,547 posts)
17. I suppose every manufacturer produces a dud now and then.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jun 2016

My Bosch works like a charm, no buttons falling off. The newer one my brother got doesn't have any controls on the front at all and the only way you can tell it's running is that it shines a little red light on the floor in front of it.

Response to Aerows (Reply #30)

GermanDem

(168 posts)
47. With the Bosch we didn't like
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jun 2016

we must have gotten a Monday model... Happy with the kitchen aid now. Stainless steel interior is pretty neat. It is also very quiet.

mnhtnbb

(31,366 posts)
5. I have a Bosch and I love it. VERY quiet
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

since we have an open floor plan kitchen to living/dining area.

I haven't bought appliances since we built this house 5 years ago, so I don't know if prices still hold,
but think about ordering from AJ Madison. No one could beat their prices here locally when we built.

https://www.ajmadison.com/

PS: If you're not in NY, you won't pay sales tax when they ship it. I have used AJ Madison for appliances for two houses and never had
a problem with delivery, either.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
6. GE sucks
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jun 2016

We had to buy a new dishwasher about a year ago and we hate it. Used to have a KitchenAid, which was wonderful.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
15. Stuff just isn't as good as it used to be.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 06:06 PM
Jun 2016

The dishwasher in my house is a GE bought by the previous owner in 2003. Never had a problem until last week when apparently some poor critter decided to chew a hole in the pump.

My house also came with a dryer that was bought in 1985. Works great!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. GE is horrible.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jun 2016

I'm with you. Stay the heck away from any appliances associated with GE. Washers, refrigerators, you name it, they will be plagued by trouble until you throw your hands up and get a new one.

GE is landfill waiting to happen.

mithnanthy

(1,725 posts)
7. We have a Bosch
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:43 PM
Jun 2016

We love it. Quiet, efficient and high quality. We we never happy with Kenmore products over many years. Poor quality. The new Bosch is wonderful.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. My den is also close to the kitchen
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

and we have a Kenmore, It;s black, very quiet, we paid 400/500, somewhere around there.
I can hear the swish swish sound, but it is not too loud, our house is extremely quiet, so small sounds do carry.

One tip....the plastic hose that goes from the dishwasher to the water line in our set up, had to go thru a hole in a plywood side
between the kitchen sink area and the dishwasher.
Every time the water filled, 'cause it was hot, the hose expanded, rubbing in that hole, until it caused a leak. We had to get help in pulling the washer out, putting in a new hose, and padding the hole area.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
25. It leaked enough that we noticed it under the sink.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jun 2016

Usually I put an old towel on the bottom of the under sink cabinet so I can feel for leaks every few weeks, cause they are easy to miss until they rot away the bottom of the area.
In this case, the trick paid off.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. Buying a GE appliance
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:54 PM
Jun 2016

is asking for irritation, aggravation and general suckage until you replace it with something made by somebody else.

Please don't ask me to go on a rant about the refrigerator and the washing machine, because both of them were GE's and pieces of shit until replaced.

Don't go there.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
26. Don't you have any kids?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jun 2016

When one of my four mentioned a dishwasher, I always answered, "Why? I have four."

panader0

(25,816 posts)
28. Teah, mine are grown and gone now. Fewer dishes.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016

In fact, now that Jeannie brought home two new kittens, there are more cat dishes to do
than people dishes.

a kennedy

(29,602 posts)
35. I'm the dishwasher in our home......
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:13 AM
Jun 2016

should have made room for one when we remolded....just never had one, why do we need it now. I WANT ONE.

nclib

(1,013 posts)
36. We buy our appliances in the scratch and dent or open box section.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:27 AM
Jun 2016

We got a bosch dishwasher for less than $200 at Lowes a couple of years ago. It was missing a kick plate that we ordered for about $20. We've had no problems with the items we bought.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
41. Wow!
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

I didn't know Lowes had a scratch and dent section.

We have a Sears outlet here, but the customer service is nonexistent and thus, should be avoided at all costs.

nclib

(1,013 posts)
48. We've also gotten appliances from
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

hhgregg and best buy. We got a refrigerator from Lowes that had been returned because the woman who bought it didn't like the way the sides looked. We got a small freezer that had been returned at Best Buy. And we got a washing machine from hhgregg that was the floor model. The store never transferred the washer to the warehouse for delivery so we got a new one at the floor model price. We always check for returned or scratch and dent when we need something. No problems so far.

NewEnglandGirl

(610 posts)
38. One feature I wish I had gotten
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jun 2016

Last year I got a Kitchen Aid which I really like. But I so wish I had gotten the extra little upper rack above the top rack. I can see where it would be very useful with knives, spatulas, lids etc. It would have been extra cost but I can see where it would have been worth it. Some of those things just don't fit well in the silverware basket.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
45. UPDATE
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jun 2016

Okay, I think I've narrowed it down to two:

The Kenmore 13229
http://www.sears.com/kenmore-24inch-built-in-dishwasher-w-stainless-steel/p-02213229000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

or

The Bosch Ascenta 50 db
http://www.lowes.com/pd/Bosch-Ascenta-50-Decibel-Built-In-Dishwasher-Black-Common-24-in-Actual-23-625-in-ENERGY-STAR/3409008

Both same price with similar features. I know the Kenmore will cost an additional $175 for extras + installation. I don't yet know what Lowes will charge to install the Bosch but whatever it is, I will have to wait until July 2 for delivery.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
46. Most are the same with different fronts
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jun 2016

Read about this in consumer reports recently.

I can't remember the exact details, but if you hunt for the article, you can figure out how to get the same mechanicals as a really top model in an off brand.

I do remember the big thing they liked was a stainless steel insides.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
50. Probably depends on where you live
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jun 2016

I lived most of my life in either NYC or Washington DC. Both had relatively good water, at least at the time.

I've relocated to live near my son (because I am older than dirt and he and his wife are doctors kind enough to have built a house for me on his property) in NM. The water here is very hard on all things metal unless SS or coated.

shanti

(21,674 posts)
51. Whatever you choose
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jun 2016

buy it at Costco. They don't sell junk, and their warranty is ironclad. You can find dw in black on their website and they deliver FREE. (no, i don't own costco stock or work for them!)

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
52. Aw, you're just a smidge too late
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jun 2016

Just came back from buying one. Never would have thought of Costco. Oh, well thanks anyway!

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