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The Velveteen Ocelot

(114,541 posts)
1. I've always seen it called landscape fabric.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 06:44 PM
Dec 2016

It's usually used to control weeds, but it does deteriorate over time and the weeds start working their way through it.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
3. Yeah, I'm looking for something to line the bottom of an old Radio Flyer wagon.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 06:50 PM
Dec 2016

I'm cutting the bottom out of the wagon, lining it with chicken wire, but then I needed something that would retain soil and let water flow through.

Any idea of what I'm actually looking for?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(114,541 posts)
5. That would work. I use it to line the bottom of a raised garden.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 06:52 PM
Dec 2016

It holds the dirt in and lets the water drain out. It will eventually have to be replaced after a few years, tough.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
17. Well the bottom is already rotting
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:12 PM
Dec 2016

and making the supports for the wheels and axles all weak. I feel it needs a restructuring.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
10. Ah ok. Essentially you are making a "flower box". There are specific things to use as liners...
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 07:04 PM
Dec 2016

for those. Those liners are designed to support more weight than the weedblock fabric.

Example of flower box or planter liner:

http://www.windowbox.com/window-boxes-planters/window-box-liners/coco-liners-roll.html

https://www.amazon.com/Coconut-Coir-Liner-Roll-ft/dp/B00GP0ZTAA

Donkees

(30,735 posts)
6. If you are asking about 'weed-barrier' it's harmful to earthworms...
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 06:52 PM
Dec 2016
It traps earthworms and other creatures in the ground. These living beings live in the soil and are very beneficial to the soil and our food. Whoever happened to be underneath has to stay there, and whoever happened to be on top can not go down anymore. Not a healthy situation. Well, you might not care so much about those thousands of creatures living in our soil, but this is just one of the reasons not to use a weed cloth. Even though I would encourage you to care, these creatures make our soil alive and nutritious.

Weed Control Fabric is also not biodegradable. Once in, it stays there for many many years, creating more and more problems. Over time it will deteriorate so that getting rid of the fabric becomes almost impossible.


http://northernhomestead.com/do-not-use-weed-control-fabric/

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
7. This vegan appreciates that info!
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 06:55 PM
Dec 2016

But my garden project mentioned in post #3 will be a suspended garden made from an old radio flyer wagon. So the earth worms won't be apart of it. Though, as I'm new to gardening, I wonder if I could introduce them to it? Would that be a good idea? I've no idea. lol

Donkees

(30,735 posts)
11. I was detoured finding an excerpt about earthworms after reading the opening post, and then read
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 07:05 PM
Dec 2016

about your wagon project. You could use coco fibre cloth for the wagon, since it's non-toxic and biodegradable (lasts for years). The same fabric that is used as garden basket liner comes in rolls. Instead of chicken wire, a section of green-wire fencing would make a stronger base to hold the coco fiber and potting soil in the wagon. If you aim for healthful soil, just start a compost pile. You'll have tons of worms in no time, enriching your garden.



The Velveteen Ocelot

(114,541 posts)
9. It's awful as a weed control method, for the reasons you mention
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 06:57 PM
Dec 2016

as well as the fact that it is very hard to get rid of once it does become ineffective. However, the OP wants to use it as a liner that lets water out the bottom, not flat on the ground where it would interfere with earthworms. I used it to line the bottom of a raised bed (on legs) and it works well for that.

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