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Sat May 20, 2017, 10:20 PM

Is it so wrong to like well done steaks with ketchup???

Am I the only one besides The Donald (even though I eat steak with ketchup only about twice a year)?

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Reply Is it so wrong to like well done steaks with ketchup??? (Original post)
spooky3 May 2017 OP
bagelsforbreakfast May 2017 #1
elleng May 2017 #2
Jamaal510 May 2017 #3
tblue37 May 2017 #29
Siwsan May 2017 #4
Ilsa May 2017 #5
3catwoman3 May 2017 #25
HopeAgain May 2017 #6
Solly Mack May 2017 #7
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #8
jmowreader May 2017 #23
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #24
forgotmylogin May 2017 #9
Phoenix61 May 2017 #10
heaven05 May 2017 #11
MFM008 May 2017 #12
Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2017 #13
TexasProgresive May 2017 #14
In_The_Wind May 2017 #15
cwydro May 2017 #16
Wounded Bear May 2017 #17
mrmpa May 2017 #18
Orrex May 2017 #19
A HERETIC I AM May 2017 #20
lastlib May 2017 #31
A HERETIC I AM May 2017 #32
lastlib May 2017 #33
Callmecrazy May 2017 #21
NobodyHere May 2017 #22
left-of-center2012 May 2017 #26
elehhhhna May 2017 #27
spooky3 May 2017 #28
lastlib May 2017 #30

Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 10:23 PM

1. yes n/m

 

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 10:24 PM

2. No, of course not, but people fix on trivia for some reason,

as if there weren't REAL things about which to despise him.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 10:30 PM

3. Probably not as

wrong as me eating my salads with ketchup instead of dressing.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #3)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:43 PM

29. French dressing is basically ketchup, vinegar, oil, and spices. nt

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 10:32 PM

4. Why order a $54 steak, just to over cook it and then smother it in ketchup?

Maybe it's his version of lighting a cigar with a $100 bill.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 10:36 PM

5. It's a little unusual to like them this way, I think.

Steak lovers typically like them tender, with nice mottling of fat (not gristle) to make the steak juicy after grilling. Some like a steak rub, frequently including sea salt, pepper, garlic, onion, paprika, etc, depending on what flavors they like. I prefer the steak with its own juices, but occasionally want a few drops of A-1 Sauce for variety. Cook it Medium for me. I don't like it rare.

I don't care for marinades on steaks to be eaten as steaks, but I like marinades on kabobs, etc.

We grill a lot of beef in texas, and don't bother with the lean stuff (too tough).

It sounds like Trump might be happier with jerky.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #5)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:00 PM

25. Jerky for the jerk. How fitting.

He could even have his own brand - Trump Jerky. Has a nice ring to it.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 10:52 PM

6. The eighth deadly sin..

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 10:54 PM

7. Do you really care what people think of your steak habits?

Your steak, your taste buds, your preference.

It would be rude to question your choices at the table.

Perhaps in a cordial situation where people are pondering the merits of a well done steak with ketchup it is different.

Like now. For instance.

I would offer that there is no other way to eat a well done steak than with the ketchup coup de grāce.

Joking aside - eat what you wanna eat and how you wanna eat it.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 10:54 PM

8. There really is nothing wrong with that. But liking steak well done is typical

of people who haven't (yet) been exposed to something I'm going to call better. I know, that sounds a bit elitist, but bear with me.

A lot of us grew up in a home where cooking was simply utilitarian. Plain food, plain cooking, no spices to speak of. Steak, the rare times there was steak, was typically well done in part because the person cooking didn't have any experience in cooking it any other way. For condiments, ketchup, mustard, and mayonnaise only.

Those of you fortunate enough to have grown up with a mother who was a good cook, and perhaps a family ethnic tradition that involved more subtleties in the cooking (I'm looking at you whose families came from Italy or Greece especially), probably still didn't often get steak.

When I was growing up meat was always VERY thoroughly cooked. There was a strong belief that rare (undercooked) meat would probably kill you, so it was cooked completely. Naturally, I acquired a taste for that. It took me a long time to move my taste in steak to medium, then medium rare, but honestly I don't think I'll ever start liking rare.

As for ketchup, while I don't use it very often, I get the appeal. For one thing, it's sweet. For another, if you're not remotely adventurous in your eating, if you slather it on the food it will taste reliably like ketchup. So while that's not my preference, I understand it.

The real shame is that the donald has no appreciation of how flavorful a properly cooked steak (rare, medium rare, or even medium) can taste. More to the point, in fitting with his mental and emotional development, he's eating like a seven year old.

added: If we were out together at a steak place, and that's what you ordered, I might raise my eyebrows, but I sincerely hope you wouldn't see that, and I most assuredly wouldn't say anything. Chances are I have more than one food preference you don't care for.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #8)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:32 PM

23. That doesn't explain Trump

He grew up in NYC in a rich family. He had plenty of opportunity to experience the finer things in life, and he still eats like a four-year-old.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #23)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:58 PM

24. You may be making a huge leap to assume he

actually grew up with the opportunity to experience the finer things in life. And keep in mind he was sent off to military school at one point.

My guess is that his upbringing, despite the surrounding money, was more like that of a working class household, and with little or no exposure to things like fine food.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:16 PM

9. I mean, you like what you like.

And I suppose a good restaurant could make a well-done steak that's not tough and still juicy. But if you want it to taste like ketchup, you could do that with meatloaf or sloppy joe made with hamburger.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:35 PM

10. Not a damn thing

I haven't eaten beef in over 30 years but when I did eat a steak it was always well done with ketchup. I went to a famous steak house and asked for the filet butterflied and well down and covered it with ketchup. I'm sure the cooks cringed but I thought it was great.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:16 AM

11. Whatever floats your boat

 

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:18 AM

12. Nice buttery mushrooms

OK I put it on steak to.
But I rarely eat steak...

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 02:11 AM

13. Yes. Yes it is.

Sorry, several years as a steakhouse line cook. Cooked thousands of steaks and anything past medium, in my opinion, is a waste of money. Ketchup? By that time, who cares?

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:30 AM

14. If you enjoy well done steaks with ketchup, that's the way you should eat them.

This is just such a small thing for people to get their knickers in a knot over. I say, go by the What-a-Burger motto- "Have it your way."

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:46 AM

15. Yes, it's wrong. Ketchup belongs on meatloaf. Well done steaks should be fed to the dog.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:44 AM

16. I don't care for ketchup at all.

But I don't like steak either.

I used to wonder why people put ketchup on eggs. Gag. But everyone has different tastes.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 10:33 AM

17. Won't catch me doing that...

but whatever floats your boat is fine.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 10:47 AM

18. I like my steak medium rare, more rarer.......

than medium. No sauce for me. However, if I have leftover steak or roast beef, for a sandwich I like it on white bread with Worcestershire sauce & ketchup.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 10:50 AM

19. In idiot Trump's idiotic case, there's more going on

If you like your steak well done and with ketchup, then by all means go for it. You seem like a reasonable, thoughtful, well-rounded human being.

But if you aggressively promote your idiot self in the public eye, and you've built your idiot empire and your idiot brand on the idea that you yourself are an idiot poser with no sophistication and both the temperament and intellectual capacity of a very young child, then everything your idiot self does is fair game to be viewed in that context.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 01:28 PM

20. When the cow was using it, it was pretty rare

Eating it as if it had burned in a forest fire seems a bit extreme.

You want your steaks well done? Eat them at Waffle House. Buying a Rib Eye at an upscale steakhouse and then asking them to basically microwave it to a point of being unrecognizable as a beef component seems counterintuitive

Frankly, and this is the food/beef snob in me coming out, well done steak is what someone who just doesn't know any better eats. Putting ketchup on same utterly drives the point home.

At least try a bearnaise on it, for fucks sake

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #20)

Sun May 21, 2017, 09:57 PM

31. Just run the cow close enough to the grill to scare it......

then cut the steak off, and you're eating well! And. NO. KETCHUP! EVER!

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Response to lastlib (Reply #31)

Sun May 21, 2017, 11:16 PM

32. Mom?

LOL...

That was my moms line, or close to it.

"Just walk the cow past the stove and yell FIRE in its ear, then walk it out here and bring me a sharp knife"


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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #32)

Mon May 22, 2017, 05:05 AM

33. I like that!

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 01:59 PM

21. NO! You cannot put ketchup on a steak!

What's wrong with you people? And cooking a steak until all the flavor is gone is a waste of a good cut of meat.
Now that I've settled this, let's move on.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 02:57 PM

22. I suppose you think Godfather 3 was the best one of the trilogy.

 

Right?

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:11 PM

26. Remembering when the GOP laughed at Obama ...

Obama was ridiculed by the right for requesting mustard on a hot dog.

They said:
"No body puts mustard on a hot dog.
Real Americans put ketchup on hot dogs!"

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #26)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:16 PM

27. My hometown, Chicago, believes that catsup on a hot dog is a sin

 

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:17 PM

28. Thanks, everyone, for your replies.

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Response to spooky3 (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 09:54 PM

30. Well-done is fine--but trash the ketchup!

Go for the Jack Stack barbecue sauce!

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