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F'ing fireants! (Original Post) ret5hd May 2017 OP
Are they worse than celibate fire ants ? CentralMass May 2017 #1
Well, if they would remain celibate we wouldn't have a problem, would we??? ret5hd May 2017 #2
You're good! LOL IADEMO2004 May 2017 #3
True. CentralMass May 2017 #5
Actually the vast majority of fire ants are celibate... Rollo May 2017 #4
I tried a 'homegrown' natural cure for fire ants once. yallerdawg May 2017 #6
Could be worse. sakabatou May 2017 #7
Eeew shenmue May 2017 #8
An incident from long ago and far away... Nac Mac Feegle Jun 2017 #9
Was that the quick burning fuse or the slow burning fuse? csziggy Jun 2017 #11
You need some decapitating flies, or armadillos .... eppur_se_muova Jun 2017 #10
Do your feet an ankles look like mine? Covered in spots that still itch after a week? csziggy Jun 2017 #12

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
4. Actually the vast majority of fire ants are celibate...
Wed May 31, 2017, 07:27 PM
May 2017

The workers - the ones that do all the biting and stinging - are sexless females. There's just one fertile queen who lays all the eggs (OK in some Hymenopterans there are multiple queens, but the workers are still sterile females).

Then again, it's said that Hitler was celibate too.

Go figure.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
6. I tried a 'homegrown' natural cure for fire ants once.
Wed May 31, 2017, 08:36 PM
May 2017

Put grits all around and on the mound!

They eat on the grits, their stomach juices reconstitute, the grits expand, and - dead fire ants!

After a couple weeks of this, I had more and bigger fire ants!

So I put away the 'homegrown' and stopped listening to the voices in my head.

Back to gasoline and matches.

F'ing fireants!

Nac Mac Feegle

(970 posts)
9. An incident from long ago and far away...
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 12:41 AM
Jun 2017

At a black powder shoot(1), back in the 70's. (Of course there was alcohol involved).

Someone discovered a rather large ant hill near their campsite, and decided to Do Something About It.

They created a mixture of granulated sugar and XXX powder(2), poured it liberally around said anthill, and waited a few hours. 6 or 8, to get the mixture well transferred into the deepest reaches of the colony.

These guys aren't dumb. Crazy, but not dumb in the least.

After evacuating the area to a suitable distance, a foot of cannon fuse(3) was placed in the hole and lighted.

<FLASH> <WHOOMPH>

Hilarity ensued, shall we say.

A 2 foot crater was all that remained of the anthill.

We carried on the business of drinking and putting large holes in paper targets.

Those were the days.

Your reload time was rather long, so you had to be very good, as you only had one shot, if you wanted something to eat.




(1) A type of historical recreation event, centering on the fur trade of the 1830's to 1850's. Involving period type weaponry (muzzle loading rifles propelled by black powder charges), period type clothing, and period type camping (reproduction type tents and tipi's). Plus alcohol, lots of alcohol.

(2) Black powder came in 4 types / sizes of granules in the powder: X - large granules, usually used in cannon, XX - smaller granules, usually used in larger caliber rifles or shotguns, XXX - finer granules, approximately the same size as sugar granules, usually used in pistols and smaller caliber rifles, and XXXX - finest granules, used in the pans of flintlock mechanisms, to ignite the propellant charge of XX in a rifle, X in a cannon. The smaller the grain, the easier to ignite; but the larger the grain, the more explosive the charge.

(3) A cotton cord, impregnated with powder. Burns at approximately 2 - 3 seconds per inch.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. Was that the quick burning fuse or the slow burning fuse?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:01 PM
Jun 2017

Unfortunately I can't find the video clip for it - and I will not try to render it in the original fake German accent!

eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
10. You need some decapitating flies, or armadillos ....
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:20 AM
Jun 2017

• Biologic Control of Fire Ants

Biologists have looked for natural predators to help control red ants. Biologists with the USDA working with entomology departments at a number of universities have imported, raised and released phorid flies, also known as decapitating flies, from South America. These tiny flies pursue the workers and lay eggs on the worker fire ant’s thorax. The eggs hatch into larvae that migrate to the ant’s head where they develop into adults, feeding on the head, which eventually falls off. The adult fly develops within the decapitated head. When it emerges, the attacks on ants continue. Each female fly may lay eggs on 200 to 300 fire ants.

The benefit of the decapitating flies is twofold. Besides killing ants, the tiny phorid flies are reportedly aggressive in their pursuit of fire ants, chasing the workers back to the mound and disrupting the ant’s foraging and thus the overall health of the mound.

Phorid flies have been released in most Southeastern states and are also increasing their range. In 2000, phorid flies were released in Lowndes County, Ala. and in Tift County, Ga. Overall, phorid flies have been released in 11 Southeast states and populations have been established in six states.

Decapitating flies aren’t considered a means to eradicate fire ants, but when used in combination with chemical agents, may lower populations.

A second biological effort is also underway to slow the fire ant’s efforts at conquering the South — the importation of fire-ant disease from South America.

Thelohania is a disease that afflicts fire ants in Brazil. In the South, biologists have used the disease to infect fire-ant mounds. Fire-ant larvae infected in the laboratory with thelohania are introduced into a fire-ant mound. The ants readily adopt the larvae and raise them, spreading the disease among the workers and to the queen.

• Chemical Treatment

Chemical treatment for fire ants fall into three categories: granular baits, mound treatments and broadcast insecticide.

Granular baits are scattered around fire-ant beds. The workers pick up the bait and carry it back to the mound. Interestingly, fire ants cannot eat solid food. When a worker finds food it brings it back to the mound where it is given to ant larvae. The mature larvae chew the food and convert the solid food into a liquid which is shared with other ants including the queen.

The dilemma for fire-ant bait manufacturers was to create a bait that was slow-acting enough so that it didn’t kill the worker that found it before it could deliver the bait to the mound. If the bait isn’t dispersed within the mound and doesn’t kill the queen, the colony is unaffected.

Mounds can also be treated by flooding them with insecticide, which kills the colony quickly. This treatment may be most effective around highly used areas around homes.

Broadcasting insecticide is an effective way to kill fire ants over a larger area, such as a pasture.

Any treatment that leaves the egg-laying queen alive is ineffective, which is why bait and insecticide manufacturers recommend you do not disturb the mound ahead of treatment. If the mound is disturbed, worker ants may lead the queen away through underground tunnels to a safe haven.

If you have heard of some home remedies to kill fire ants, the USDA says don’t bother. According to the agency website, things like scattering grits, uncooked rice or white potatoes on the mounds have no impact on fire ants. Pouring vinegar or baby powder on the mound is also ineffective. You may succeed in irritating the ants enough that the mound appears to go dead, but usually all that has happened is the ants have simply picked up and moved to a new site.

The use of gasoline is also not recommended, in part because of the potential danger to the person setting fire to the mound. Too, the soil within the mound insulates the mound from heat from a fire.

If you thought you had no use for an armadillo, consider this: armadillos are a fire-ant predator and actually dig the mounds to feed on the workers and larvae, oblivious to the stings.

Because fire ants recolonize an area, any treatment is considered control rather than eradication, and must be ongoing. Fire-ant baits such as Amdro®, Logic® or Award® will control ant populations but only with regular re-application.

While research on the impact of fire ants is ongoing, biologists all agree that fire ants continue to expand their range in North America, and they are here to stay.

http://www.aonmag.com/article.php?id=1495

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. Do your feet an ankles look like mine? Covered in spots that still itch after a week?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:05 PM
Jun 2017

The sneaky bastards didn't even have a nest where they attacked me - they swarmed all over both my feet and then all started biting all at once! I've got about five bites on the right foot and about triple that on the left foot, all trying to be infected.

I think they're living in the Mexican petunias and took exception to me trying to weed whack the plants.

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