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Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 03:48 PM Jul 2017

Common phrases that have outlived the technology they were associated with

For example, "You sound like a broken record." This was related to scratched vinyl albums that got stuck at a particular point when played and constantly repeats the same passage.

"Drop a dime on someone". Refers to using a pay phone to tattle on someone. No one uses pay phones any more.

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Common phrases that have outlived the technology they were associated with (Original Post) Yavin4 Jul 2017 OP
Roll Down The Windows n/t sharp_stick Jul 2017 #1
Dial a telephone number jberryhill Jul 2017 #2
Dead as a door nail Alpeduez21 Jul 2017 #3
What's the origin of this? LAS14 Jul 2017 #18
The phrase was first used in a 14th century poem by William Langland wishstar Jul 2017 #30
Thanks, but what IS a door nail/dore-nayl??? nt LAS14 Jul 2017 #31
door·nail Ptah Jul 2017 #33
In colonial days(and probably before) Alpeduez21 Jul 2017 #46
Wow! Thanks! LAS14 Jul 2017 #48
Hang Up The Phone n/t sharp_stick Jul 2017 #4
Good one! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2017 #43
And for a long time before pay phones became obsolete, a call was a quarter. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #5
Burn the midnight oil. Mrs. Overall Jul 2017 #6
Dear John letter Warpy Jul 2017 #7
Not exactly a saying, but a book quote in the same spirit: cemaphonic Jul 2017 #8
Your three minutes are up....regarding long distance phone call billing. sinkingfeeling Jul 2017 #9
Referring to audio and audio/video recordings as tape. TexasProgresive Jul 2017 #10
Or an album underpants Jul 2017 #16
Actually album still works for a cd or even a file with multiple recordings TexasProgresive Jul 2017 #20
Crank the engine. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #11
"We are taping" - does anyone use tape or film anymore? rurallib Jul 2017 #12
There's still a few film directors (Spielberg, Tarantino, etc) who insist on using 35mm film rather Midwestern Democrat Jul 2017 #55
I'm forever asking my kid MontanaMama Jul 2017 #13
Glove compartment Flo Mingo Jul 2017 #14
Why is trunk obsolete? LAS14 Jul 2017 #19
It was obsolete for all of my life. TexasProgresive Jul 2017 #22
The Brits call it the boot of the car Sanity Claws Jul 2017 #26
Aha!! Thanks much. nt LAS14 Jul 2017 #29
Glad you asked... Flo Mingo Jul 2017 #47
Cigarette lighter. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2017 #59
I still say both ailsagirl Jul 2017 #60
Caught on tape...... cameras were rolling California_Republic Jul 2017 #15
Ice box IphengeniaBlumgarten Jul 2017 #17
As a child I once asked my Sicilian grandmother what the Italian word for refrigerator tblue37 Jul 2017 #51
"In the limelight" Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2017 #21
Carbon Copy (CC) or Blind Carbon Copy(BCC) Yavin4 Jul 2017 #23
Hang up the phone. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #24
slam down the phone KT2000 Jul 2017 #25
incredibly frustrating when you really want to do that yellowdogintexas Jul 2017 #63
They still use pay phones in Chicago GreydeeThos Jul 2017 #27
"Don't pump the gas peddle, you'll flood it!" GreydeeThos Jul 2017 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author jberryhill Jul 2017 #32
Let's Rewind NotASurfer Jul 2017 #34
Pop stand Muffy88 Jul 2017 #35
Did you leave the bottles in the milk box? OilemFirchen Jul 2017 #36
My parents called the refrigerator the "ice box". FuzzyRabbit Jul 2017 #38
So did mine. Sometimes I do myself, even though The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #39
I remember milkboxes. My aunt always had one Rhiannon12866 Jul 2017 #44
Still possible in my area. politicat Jul 2017 #42
Run through the wringer. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #37
Wrinkle free fax paper......... I'm a HUGE "Friends" fan. This show can turn my mood around Upthevibe Jul 2017 #40
I've never watched that show so I'm afraid I don't get the reference... The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #41
My grandmother had one of those Rhiannon12866 Jul 2017 #45
Putting the cart before the horse. NNadir Jul 2017 #49
Three sheets to the wind. madamesilverspurs Jul 2017 #50
Put through the wringer LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 2017 #52
Mind your "p's" and "q's" from early printing techniques...nt uriel1972 Jul 2017 #53
Cut and Paste mikeargo Jul 2017 #54
"Lordy, I hope there are tapes" JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2017 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2017 #57
Circle the wagons... NotASurfer Jul 2017 #58
"Don't touch that dial." Iggo Jul 2017 #61
The smoking lamp is out Kaleva Jul 2017 #62
Just a flash in the pan duncang Jul 2017 #64

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
30. The phrase was first used in a 14th century poem by William Langland
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 06:28 PM
Jul 2017

Amazingly resilient

"This is old - at least 14th century. There's a reference to it in print in 1350, a translation by William Langland of the French poem Guillaume de Palerne:
"For but ich haue bote of mi bale I am ded as dorenayl."

Langland also used the expression in the much more famous poem The Vision of William Concerning Piers Plowman, circa 1362:
Fey withouten fait is febelore þen nouȝt, And ded as a dore-nayl.
[Faith without works is feebler than nothing, and dead as a doornail.]

The expression was in widespread colloquial use in England by the 16th century, when Shakespeare gave these lines to the rebel leader Jack Cade in King Henry VI, Part 2,1592"

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
46. In colonial days(and probably before)
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 07:59 AM
Jul 2017

when a house burned down the nails would be collected from the ashes. They were usually undamaged. Making nails was a long expensive process. "Door nails" after being nailed through the door jamb were bent. Thepart sticking through the jamb was bent, that is. After a fire these bent nails were not reusable because they were bent.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
5. And for a long time before pay phones became obsolete, a call was a quarter.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 03:54 PM
Jul 2017

I think the dime phone call went away in the '80s, maybe earlier.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
8. Not exactly a saying, but a book quote in the same spirit:
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 03:54 PM
Jul 2017

(from Neuromancer by William Gibson)
"The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel."

Nowadays, this would mean a clear blue sky.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
20. Actually album still works for a cd or even a file with multiple recordings
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jul 2017

album |ˈalbəm|
noun
1 a blank book for the insertion of photographs, stamps, or pictures: the wedding pictures had pride of place in the family album.
2 a collection of recordings issued as a single item on CD, record, or another medium.

Now if you had said LP or EP or 45 or 78 those are anachronistic. Except I see some young people buying old and new vinyl albums. What I really miss with LPs were the cover art and liner notes. Don't get much of that with CDs and none at all with online music. Sad, bigly Sad.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
11. Crank the engine.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 03:59 PM
Jul 2017

Now it's just a term meaning getting it going with a starter, but in the Model T days you had to start a car engine with a handle that turned the crankshaft.

55. There's still a few film directors (Spielberg, Tarantino, etc) who insist on using 35mm film rather
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jul 2017

than digital but digital finally overtook film in major motion pictures in 2012 - only 29 films were shot on film in 2016.

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TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
22. It was obsolete for all of my life.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 04:34 PM
Jul 2017

The trunk referred to an actual trunk mounted on the rear of an automobile.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
26. The Brits call it the boot of the car
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jul 2017

Did they put boots back there?
I'm laughing at the thought of placing boots in the back of the car and bonnets in the front.

Flo Mingo

(492 posts)
47. Glad you asked...
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:27 AM
Jul 2017

North Americans use the term “trunk” because up until the 1930's most drivers used to strap travel chests, called trunks, to the backs of their cars. Of course, once automakers started designing cars with built-in rear compartments, there were no longer any reasons to travel with trunks. The name, however, stuck.

17. Ice box
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 04:21 PM
Jul 2017

Back in the 1940s, you could still get a block of ice delivered to your home to put in these insulated cabinets and keep your food cool.

tblue37

(65,334 posts)
51. As a child I once asked my Sicilian grandmother what the Italian word for refrigerator
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 12:51 AM
Jul 2017

was.

Her response: "ice-a-boxa."

She left Sicily before refrigerators had been invented, so the term she learned from her immigrant community was based on the American term for the only form of "refrigeration" they had in the early 20ty century--actual ice boxes.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
23. Carbon Copy (CC) or Blind Carbon Copy(BCC)
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 05:17 PM
Jul 2017

Those acronyms are still in use on emails but their origins were from when people would insert carbon paper between two sheets paper to make a copy of the original for distribution.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
24. Hang up the phone.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jul 2017

You can't "hang up" a phone any more. The receivers of the old wall-mounted phones hung on a hook, and when you hung the receiver on the hook the call would terminate. These were later replaced with desk phones where the receiver sat in a cradle and the call would be terminated when the phone depressed the buttons in the cradle - so even with those phones you technically weren't hanging them up.

It used to be so satisfying to end an angry conversation by slamming the receiver down so the person on the other end would hear a "clunk!" followed by a dial tone (another obsolete term). When you "hang up" now all you do is press a button, alas.

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
28. "Don't pump the gas peddle, you'll flood it!"
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 06:21 PM
Jul 2017

Automobiles no longer have carburetors, accelerator pumps, and do not flood when the driver repeatedly tamps down on the gas peddle when the engine is not running.

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NotASurfer

(2,149 posts)
34. Let's Rewind
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 09:16 PM
Jul 2017

I've caught myself using that phrase recently and wonder how you'd translate that for today's tech - "let's revert to a prior time index?"

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
39. So did mine. Sometimes I do myself, even though
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 11:57 PM
Jul 2017

I never saw a real one. I do recall an old ('30s vintage) refrigerator my grandmother had - it had legs and a door that latched sort of like an old car door. The compressor was a cylindrical thing on its top, and it vibrated enough that the whole refrigerator would start to creep across the kitchen. They were always shoving it back against the wall where it belonged. The thing was still working until the mid '80s.

The milk box was a different thing; it was an insulated metal box into which the milkman would put your dairy products upon his weekly or bi-weekly delivery. Our milk box was by the back door. The milk came in glass bottles and had paper and foil caps.

Rhiannon12866

(205,220 posts)
44. I remember milkboxes. My aunt always had one
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 06:10 AM
Jul 2017

I don't think we had a box, but I can remember milk being delivered to the door. There was one time we were away and came home to find the milk had frozen. It formed a column out of the bottles with the paper caps on top. And I also remember that you had to shake it since the cream was on the top. Am I old?

politicat

(9,808 posts)
42. Still possible in my area.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 03:31 AM
Jul 2017

We have two services that deliver milk, eggs, cheese, juice and other dairy. Add in a CSA and a meat share, and food's pretty much covered.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
37. Run through the wringer.
Thu Jul 13, 2017, 10:21 PM
Jul 2017

Before the days of dryers, you had to hang your clothes on a clothesline, but to get as much water out of them as possible you'd use the wringer feature of your washing machine. The washer looked like a tub on legs, and on top of it were a couple of parallel rollers that you'd feed the clothes through to squish the water out. My grandma had one of these. You had to watch out for your fingers.

Upthevibe

(8,038 posts)
40. Wrinkle free fax paper......... I'm a HUGE "Friends" fan. This show can turn my mood around
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 12:45 AM
Jul 2017

so fast. I just love these guys....anyhow.....Chandler just walked in with a bottle of champagne (one of the episodes where he and Monica are sneaking around) and saw the whole gang there and made the excuse (for the champagne) and said excitedly, "My office just got wrinkle free fax paper!"

Rhiannon12866

(205,220 posts)
45. My grandmother had one of those
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 06:30 AM
Jul 2017

I remember seeing it, but not in actual operation. But she must have used it because I remember it being "out." Apparently it was put away when it wasn't being used.

52. Put through the wringer
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:47 AM
Jul 2017

I remember helping my grandmother run clothes through a hand-cranked wringer before they were hung out to dry.

mikeargo

(675 posts)
54. Cut and Paste
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 07:45 AM
Jul 2017

I'm so old, I remember when we really did that, working on the high school paper, with a glue pot and scissors.

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NotASurfer

(2,149 posts)
58. Circle the wagons...
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:14 PM
Jul 2017

...independent prosecutor's rounded up a posse, and it's too late to saddle up and put the spurs to it, and this might just be a hangin' offense

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
61. "Don't touch that dial."
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 05:51 PM
Jul 2017

Um...what dial? All I see are buttons.

(Actually, I think that one may have finally died out.)

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
62. The smoking lamp is out
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 08:04 PM
Jul 2017

"The smoking lamp has survived only as a figure of speech. When the officer of the deck says "the smoking lamp is out" before drills, refueling or taking ammunition, that is the Navy's way of saying "cease smoking.""

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/5/messages/708.html

Back when I was in the Navy, the last word passed over the 1MC at 2200hrs was "Taps, taps lights out, all hands turn in to your bunks and maintain silence about the decks. The smoking lamp is extinguished in all berthing spaces. Now Taps." and in the morning, it was " "Reveille! Reveille! Reveille! All hands heave out and trice up. The smoking lamp is lighted in all authorized spaces. Reveille!"

There's several terms used by the Navy today that originate from the days of sail.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
64. Just a flash in the pan
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 06:20 PM
Jul 2017

When you tried firing a musket and only the powder in the pan went off. But the main charge didn't ignite.

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