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For me, it's beans. It's always been beans. Beans of any kind. Beans in any form. Beans with any thing. BEANS!!!
Warpy
(114,615 posts)Can't cook it, can't choke it down.
There are other foods I'll eat with long teeth and contemplate puking later but I can't get liver down, at all.
Control-Z
(15,686 posts)if I don't see or touch it raw first. (And only chicken livers with Water Chestnuts wrapped in bacon.)
Warpy
(114,615 posts)It was always hilarious, they'd sniff it and then crouch and growl at it for a good half hour before they realized it was edible.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)It's also entrails. Guts. I can't eat animal guts.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)along with eyeballs, lips, tongues, and ears, all encased in intestine, the taste completely concealed by sage, garlic, and hot pepper. None for over 2 decades, though.
I just can't eat it if it's on a plate by itself or even in a paté of some description.
I think it's hilarious these days, we peasants are dining on the muscle meats while the rich with jaded palates are being served the offal.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)Warpy
(114,615 posts)god's gonna get you for that one.
teezy
(269 posts)My mom used to boil it and grind it up for the dogs when I was a kid. Oh god, that smell hung in the air for hours. It would make me vomit, so I'd have to leave the house and stay out for 2 or 3 hours.
Then I became a cook, and 99.9% of the time I never had to worry about seeing it... but there have been the odd occasions. My chief cook and I struck up a deal where I would not have to be in the same room as it or serve it... unless he wanted me to puke all over the serving station. (you're welcome for that visual)
I have never even attempted to eat it because the horror of seeing it go from this dark maroon slime into ground up grey "blah" has solidified my determination not to. There is everything wrong with liver.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)When he saw me lean over and puke into the trash can he knew it wasn't happening again.
teezy
(269 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)Especially when you understand what the actual function of the liver is.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)For most types it's high in protein, low in fat, and contains many micronutrients that are often harder to get from other sources of protein.
If you thought about it too much, nobody would eat eggs for the same reason.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)They are an excellent source of protein. The cholesterol charge is essentially unproven. So eat eggs, unless you don't like them.
And the demonization of eggs points right back to the essential problem: no food is poison, unless you are truly allergic to it. Which means that the gluten free fad is beyond dumb, just to name one current bit of magic food nonsense.
And no food is perfect or the one that absolutely everyone should eat. Except possibly breast milk for infants. And even then, babies can survive quite nicely on something other than mother's milk.
If the liver is in charge of removing wastes from the body, what exactly remains behind in the liver? That's what I think about, and I think has not been adequately addressed. Especially given modern feeding practices. Maybe the liver of an animal that has been free range its whole life is a good thing to eat, but I'm still not convinced.
I'll make a small concession to bacon. I recently bought some that was so incredibly salty that I threw away most of the package. And this from someone who tends to like salty things. I suppose that the sort of smoked bacon that people made in times past, before the commercial version that's currently out there, was just fine. They simply smoked it (reread some of the Laura Ingalls Wilder books for some more information here) and didn't add any other chemicals. Actually, when I was a child we once got some bacon smoked by a farmer who lived near us, and I recall not caring for it because the smoked flavor was so very strong. I'm guessing that's just a good example of how we become accustomed to certain flavors as we grow up, and different flavors of the same foods seem wrong.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)That's not to say bacon is healthy, but it's not unhealthy in the way some claim. The "chemicals" in question are nitrites (and/or nitrates) which are used as preservatives and have been for hundreds of years. Smoking is also a preservation method, but not nearly as effective. Without nitrites it's simply "uncured bacon" which is to say it isn't really bacon at all. The myth is that the curing chemicals are carcinogenic, when the evidence that supports that theory is unsound or simply junk. There's also a variety of cured meat products that advertise "natural" sources of curing agents that are simply chemically the same as traditional methods.
Liver from some animals can contain adverse amounts of heavy metals, but this is generally only the case in less commonly available varieties from certain wild animals (which are certainly free range), but this is also true in certain instances of non-organ meats like mercury content in tuna.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)I do get tired of bacon being claimed as totally awful, and liver as totally wonderful.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)Too many people eat too much of things like processed sugar and starches and not enough fiber and some micronutrients. I'm not a huge fan of liver, but there are some sausages and pates made from it which I think are wonderful.
jmowreader
(53,194 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)I have never heard what good liver is for you.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)Been sick? Eat liver.
Pregnant? Eat liver.
Anemic? Eat liver.
Female over the age of menarche? Eat liver.
Had surgery? Eat liver.
I've had that shit pushed at me all my life by well meaning people who swore it "builds the blood." I've been threatened with liver shots by doctors. I said "give me Feosol or give me death." They gave me Feosol. It worked.
Since it's known now that liver is where the pesticides, heavy metals, herbicides, and other horrible things the animal has been exposed to during its life have been sequestered, they don't push it like they used to.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)How can something that causes such a violent gag reflex be good for you? If you remember Mommy Dearest I lived the steak scene except with liver and my father. After that my mother made hamburger for me when she made liver...amazingly enough my father said nothing to her about that.
fierywoman
(8,595 posts)pasta-fagioli --- ooooo with a strong vinaigrette dressed radicchio thrown in: heaven!
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)`
hlthe2b
(113,961 posts)I make my own....
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)I like it plain or with muesli, fresh or dried fruit. Can't stand the stuff with added sugar.
hlthe2b
(113,961 posts)Any other kind of bean is fine...
pangaia
(24,324 posts)eeeekkk--- gives me the shivers....
underpants
(196,494 posts)Actually that's a lie. I love bourbon.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I am just now working on a MOUNT GAY 1703 Black Barrel.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)underpants
(196,494 posts)Best_man23
(5,268 posts)Went to Bourbon country for a milestone birthday. Four Roses, Blanton's, and Basil Hayden are residents in my liquor cabinet. :
underpants
(196,494 posts)Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)Yuck and gross.
But what about green and string beans?
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)Remember what JFK said: "Mankind must put and end to beans, or beans will put and end to mankind."
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)I grew up that every Saturday my Mother made a big pot of beans and rice. People dropped over on Saturdays for those beans. I old boyfriend who when we broke up lamented he wouldn't have any more of my Mom's beans and rice. Years later like 15 he called me and asked if my Mother still made those beans I said yes and I now made them for my husband. But ironically, my son doesn't like beans and rice!!!!!
My husband has forbid me from making Lima beans though.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)They smell like dirty socks when you cook them.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I've tried everybody's favorite way to make them palatable.
No go....
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)So I did, and I still hated them.
unblock
(56,198 posts)They taste entirely different. Yummy!
Here in America, meh at best.
alittlelark
(19,139 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Warpy
(114,615 posts)either by boiling or grilling. Then they're edible and very nice deep fried in batter.
LeftInTX
(34,292 posts)I love deep fried okra, but I like anything deep fried. I don't care for plain okra, the taste is kinda weird. The slime doesn't bother me. I grow cactus and eat it raw.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)And it has the texture of a Brillo pad.
I also don't like other fashionable foods: Quinoa (weird texture), arugula (too bitter), and any bakery product that's gluten-free (too heavy and gummy) (yes, I know some people have gluten sensitivities and it's good that gluten-free food is available for them, but for people who don't have gluten sensitivities it's just a fad and won't do them any good).
Texasgal
(17,240 posts)I agree.. Kale is the devils work!!! How anyone could make this bitter tasting green so fashionable is beyond me!
I also can't stand the taste of Quinoa. GROSS! I don't care how you "season it".
LeftInTX
(34,292 posts)LoveMyCali
(2,047 posts)blech, the only good thing about it is if you are trying to lose weight one bite can be chewed for the entire day and still maintain it's original shape and size.
I'm not a picky eater but kale and lima beans
Freddie
(10,104 posts)Makes it easier to scrape out of the pan into the garbage.
Actually once had a deli-prepared kale salad that was pretty good - kale was drenched in a creamy Caesar dressing and Parmesan cheese - which undoubtedly negated the healthiness of the kale.
TomSlick
(13,013 posts)I like pickled cucumbers - just not raw.
Will not - cannot - eat them. If a salad has cucumbers in it, simply picking out the cucumbers isn't enough - the whole thing is ruined. My loving wife (who likes cucumbers) has given them up because I can't stand to smell them being sliced in the house.
I'm not crazy about Lima beans but can eat them. I will eat anything being served - just not cucumbers.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)Can't stand the smell and can't eat anything they are in, even after I've picked them out, because their taste lingers and it's horrible.
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)They were a food that I was forced to eat as a child (I don't know how many times my breakfast was my plate of cucumbers from dinner that I wouldn't touch) and to this day I can't stand the sight or smell of one.
I won't even do pickles.
Dale Neiburg
(797 posts)The smell of raw cucumbers makes me borderline nauseous, and it infects anything else that's been in contact with them. I like them fine pickled or cooked (as in Thai cooking).
Eugene
(67,101 posts)TomSlick
(13,013 posts)I hate cottage cheese too. It's clabbered (i.e. spoiled) milk. Can cottage cheese go bad? If cottage cheese goes bad, does it taste good?
Freddie
(10,104 posts)The lumps - no. Not crazy about ricotta either (same idea) I will omit it in my homemade lasagna (just use mozzarella and Parmesan) and push it to the side of the plate when eating other lasagna.
spooky3
(38,632 posts)Fresh green beans aren't bad, though.
Tikki
(15,140 posts)But I do love most other fruits.
I can only eat fresh strawberries..no strawberry jam or strawberry ice cream or
strawberry icing, etc.
Tikki
LeftInTX
(34,292 posts)CanonRay
(16,171 posts)I keep trying, hate 'em
applegrove
(132,207 posts)nuts and dries fruit. But I have always hated them. The one I hated the most as a kid was squash. I remember being 4 and told I had to eat my squash at dinner. I stuffed the squash into my cheeks till my formal grandmother told me I looked like a chipmunk. At some point after that my mom allowed us each one thing we never had to eat. I picked squash.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)Lots of foods I ate as a kid were just made badly and tasted horrible. Many of them I discovered later in life using different methods of cooking and seasoning.
applegrove
(132,207 posts)bitter in food. And then it changes again when you get old. I'm finding this now. My buds are gone.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)That's why younger people tend to be more sensitive to spicy foods. Also don't discount the impact smell has on flavor. You can only detect a handful of different tastes, but can differentiate hundreds of different smells, even in very small quantities and when accompanying must stronger smells. I am constantly finding new ways to use herbs in my cooking. Growing them myself helps quite a bit.
teezy
(269 posts)I've tried. Salmon, trout, herring, white fish... gross.
I wish I liked it.
And eggplant - the worst vegetable on the planet.
Freddie
(10,104 posts)Tuna drenched in mayo, yes. Other fish, no. Of course it s healthy, low calorie, etc. My Millennial kids love sushi, the thought is repulsive. I think it's a generational thing as everyone their age likes it.
jpak
(41,780 posts)but kidneys that have not been properly prepared are a No No.
yup
DBoon
(24,983 posts)Give me plain old cabbage any day.
Kale isn't a food, it is construction material.
Skittles
(171,709 posts)when I was a kid in England my grandma piled them high - I would just stare and grimace.....at the end of supper my grandfather would scoop a big handful of them on his way out.....years after he had passed I told my mother about that she said WOW, HE DID THAT FOR ME TOO!
LeftInTX
(34,292 posts)My second earliest memory in life was going to dinner at my parents' friend house. I was told that as a guest, I had to eat everything they served. They served peas. I sat there and stared with tears rolling down my cheeks. I didn't complain. Everyone was like, "What's the matter?" "Why are you crying?" I refused to say why. I was too scared. I finally whispered to my mom, "They have peas".
My first memory is of falling out of a car.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)For fun we'd sneak them off our plates and throw them at the bathroom mirror, because they splatted so nicely. I agree that they are not very edible.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)No food is magic. Nor is any food toxic (despite my above stated opinion about liver) unless you are deadly allergic to that food.
Eat what you like. Try, as Michael Pollan says, to eat real food, not too much. If your grandmother wouldn't recognize something as food, you should probably skip it.
Oh, and the whole paleo thing is a load of crap because we are NOT our paleolithic ancestors. And vegetarianism is likewise dumb (and I bet I get a lot of hate mail for this) because we evolved as omnivores. Not to mention, eating only raw food makes no sense because we became fully human once we started eating cooked food, and simply don't have the digestive tract appropriate to a raw-food eating species.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)Mostly because the stuff he promotes relies heavily on junk science, including the paleo thing. The same can be said for just about all so-called "healthy food" trends which are specious at best.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)I remember him best for:
Eat real food. Not too much. Mostly vegetables.
And the caveat that what you eat should be something your grandmother would recognize as real food. I try to stick to those rules. And as I said above, the paleo thing is nonsense.
As an aside, several years ago I got in the habit of bringing some sort of baked treat to share with my coworkers at my job. As I'd tell them, I love to bake and I live alone. Cookies, brownies, cakes. All made from scratch. Real scratch, not simply doctoring up a mix, as a friend recently thought I meant. Flour, sugar, butter, sugar, eggs, and so on.
It was almost embarrassing, how much they enjoyed by treats. It was so obvious that almost none of them had ever had anything made from anything but a mix. In recent years I find that the cookies and cakes I get at bakeries are to me, inedible, because they've started using commercial mixes. There's a distinct chemical taste, not the glorious explosion of flavor from the real thing.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)Most people don't eat enough vegetables and legumes, but most of what he says is just garbage. There are things our grandparents ate which are complete crap, while things we have today they wouldn't recognize are completely healthy. There's also lots of things they wouldn't recognize that come from different areas and more diverse cultures that are better than what they had. For instance unless your grandparents are Asian, they probably wouldn't know what to do with tofu, yet it's an excellent source of protein. There's also all sorts of advances in food science that makes what we have far better today. That's not to say all of it is good as it clearly isn't, but neither does that go for all sorts of things widely available to our grandparents. Even if you make things yourself from scratch, and I almost do, it doesn't change the fact that those basic ingredients of which you speak like flour, sugar, butter, baking powder, etc. are still heavily processed and aren't really any more or less healthy than stuff that does come from a box or a commercial bakery.
I think it's better advice to get people to actually read the labels on their processed food and understand the fundamentals of basic nutrition along the lines of macro and micro nutrients, then keeping things in balance. When people start giving abstract advice like eating "clean" or less processed, or pure, or organic, or paleo, or gluten free, any other fad, there's a good chance they are full of shit.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)But I will come back to the fact that I notice the chemical taste in things like cakes made from a mix.
Here's a story I like to tell. Some years back, when my mother was turning 80, we had a nice party for her. I was asked to bake a couple of cakes, which I did. If you'd been at the party you'd have had a choice of chocolate cake with white frosting or chocolate cake with chocolate frosting, or a something that was made with graham crackers and whipped cream (my sister's contribution. I made the cakes). I made the cakes and I used the recipe on the back of the Hershey's cocoa mix. I do sheet cakes because I'm a complete failure at making layer cakes.
Every single person who took a piece of cake that day ate the entire piece. My sister (at whose home the event was held) was completely astonished. She had three young children and was used to having birthday and other parties where she baked a cake. With a mix. And the kids rarely finished a piece of cake. Hmmmm. Might there be a connection here. Cake made from raw ingredients: everyone finishes. Cake made from a mix: people don't finish.
I will politely disagree and say that the things like flour, sugar, butter, and so on are not that heavily processed. In fact, the flour we get today is probably far better than at least some of the flour available in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Same with things like milk. The Pure Food and Drug Act of whenever has made a huge difference. We have vastly better commodities than was available in the past.
A side note. I do happen to like potato chips. I absolutely despise the various flavored ones, mainly because they taste like crap. Again, there's a strong chemical taste that is extremely unpleasant. But if you start eating such things as a child, it becomes the norm. Until, perhaps, you have the exquisite pleasure of eating potato chips made fresh from very thinly sliced potatoes. Oh, my.
I love french fries, and one of the things I do not like about the city I live in (Santa Fe, NM) is that it is totally obvious to me that the french fries I get here are almost invariably made from frozen. Yuck. One of the things I love about Portland, OR, is that the french fries I get there are invariably made from potatoes. Fresh. Oh, my.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)You can actually process your own flour, which provided you have an adequate mill produces results more or less the same as that which would have been available 100-200 or even 1,000 years ago, which isn't all that different from what you can get from most any local market. The differences come in with protein content and which parts of the grain remains in the finished product. White all-purpose flour that most people are familiar with has the bran and germ removed along with the fiber and micronutrients that go with them with only the starchy endosperm remaining. Baked goods that utilize whole grains tend to be heavier and don't leaven as much, but contain more flavor, fiber, and nutrients. Butter is processed so that milk solids and milk fats remain while the other parts are removed. Sugar is refined from cane or beet sources to remove fiber and retain sucrose. So that's what I mean by "heavily processed". They are very much different from the raw materials they are derived from.
I think there's something to be said for advances in food science which produce things like leavening agents, binders, preservatives, emulsifiers, thickening agents, and other additives which replace things which have been used for hundreds of years that perform the same purpose. Sometimes these things result in lower quality for the sake of cost reduction and sometimes they produce superior results. I can and often do make most everything from scratch, but I actually like box cake mixes as they contain some superior ingredients that aren't practical to get yourself, although they do tend to produce a result that anyone can (and does) repeat a bit too often.
I occassionally make my own french fries and actually purposely freeze them. The reason being I can prepare them in larger batches, and freezing allows for a crispy outside and a tender inside that's hard to get otherwise.
Sailor65x1
(554 posts)Utterly disgusting
DFW
(60,182 posts)I hear all the benefits and even eat it once in a while in salads--with the greatest of reluctance!
Jack-o-Lantern
(1,020 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)Your food is digested and converted to chemicals your body can use and energy to keep you going. If you don't want to eat meat, don't eat it.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)mucifer
(25,667 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)There are lots of those!
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)


Don't know what the hell you're doing here among the adults, but if this IS you, keep up the excellent dietary habits! In fact, I you should eat more fast food brands: Wendy's, Sugar Shack, Chili's, Popeye's, Arby's and more! And remember, exercise is for cucks!
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)The good news, I've found lots and lots of delicious vegan foods that I enjoy just a much.
Best_man23
(5,268 posts)Parents fed me nasty canned salmon as a kid, gave me huge salmon phobia for years.
Orrex
(67,111 posts)Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)Salmonella doesn't come from salmon...you know that, right? Most often, you get it from raw poultry and meat, raw eggs and unpasteurized dairy products.
sprinkleeninow
(22,343 posts)Pickled herring in creme sauce.
Jellied pigs feet.😋
Orrex
(67,111 posts)which do you think is more likely that "they" want us to believe: that salmonella (i.e. salmonella enterica subspecies which are found worldwide in all warm-blooded animals) 1) comes from salmon, or 2) comes from unsafe food processing and cross contamination?
https://www.livescience.com/50952-salmonella-outbreak-raw-tuna.html
Orrex
(67,111 posts)If that were true, how would they have the energy to swim up waterfalls?
shanny
(6,709 posts)oy vey
p.s. have you never caught a fish?
Orrex
(67,111 posts)Duh.
shanny
(6,709 posts)or is it....The Twilight Zone.
Welcome to DU!
And thank you...for the welcome and the laugh
Orrex
(67,111 posts)There is no crazy theory so crazy that some crazy theorist won't believe it whole-heartedly.
NotASurfer
(2,369 posts)And that from an atheist
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)I don't like them either.
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)I can't stand them in anything, can't even stand the smell - and it sends me over the edge when people toss peas into something that would otherwise be fine - "for color."
Laffy Kat
(16,952 posts)The only fermented substance I'll consume is alcohol and yogurt (I think yogurt is fermented?). Also: kale, organ meats (which I don't believe are good for you, anyway). Am I the only one on DU who likes lima/butter beans? They are yummy cooked slowly with a slab of salt pork or bacon thrown in.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)pickles, some sausage products like pepperoni, real sour cream, chocolate, some condiments like ketchup and hot sauces, and probably dozens of other common food items I'm forgetting.
Laffy Kat
(16,952 posts)No pickles though, or ketchup, or hot sauce for me.
unblock
(56,198 posts)Usually I can't get past the smell....
Freddie
(10,104 posts)Cooked in a tomato sauce with a little bacon, they're delicious. I also like to put the frozen vegetable mix that includes limas in beef stew.
Laffy Kat
(16,952 posts)The rest of DU can do without lima beans. Just leaves more for us.
DinahMoeHum
(23,604 posts)Those things make me puke.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,391 posts)Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)Which is too bad, because I'd love to at least TRY the stuff.
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)peacebuzzard
(5,870 posts)I travel often, and that can be very uncomfortable. I love beans and legumes though, just not convenient to be in public after consuming!
femmedem
(8,561 posts)Yum to:
Kale sautéed with cumin, garlic and paprika.
Roasted Brussel sprouts
all the beans
quinoa, so long as it is rinsed first
all the nuts
all the fruits
sauerkraut
sweet potatoes
Yum. Yum. Yum.
It's been a long time since I ate any meat, poultry or fish, but I didn't like shellfish.
Never was crazy about cottage cheese.
Milk tastes disgusting and thick and ... gaggers.
I wish I could say I was strictly vegan but I can't resist fresh mozzarella with garden tomatoes and basil.
sprinkleeninow
(22,343 posts)California evoo.
Did you and my husband go to different schools together?!😆
He asks for this every nite of the week! 🙄
whathehell
(30,468 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Heck, I retch when I smell it.
shanny
(6,709 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,533 posts)But kind of slimy. It's sort of OK fried, but otherwise - yuck.
Doug the Dem
(1,297 posts)Kali
(56,829 posts)lima and kidney beans (all others I have tried are fine/delicious)
oddly I don't like fresh cooked spinach as a side dish, though in other food it is fine as is raw baby spinach in salads and such, but I do like canned spinach as long as it has a touch of bacon grease
I am way more picky about textures and preparation than actual items of food.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I also don't like cauliflower.
The sight of those two turns me off immediately. I can't say I even know what they taste like. I guess I've tried to suppress my brief sampling from decades ago.
Above all I despise cheese. If I had to choose between ridding the world of cheese or Donald Trump, it would be an extremely difficult call. I suppose with this much time remaining in his term I would go with Trump. But not without considerable angst. That's how much I hate cheese.
gopiscrap
(24,733 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)No not really. That is just as bad as cream of corn which for me is right up there with liver.
gopiscrap
(24,733 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)Why would someone want to eat the organ in the body that absorbs and filters out the nasty stuff going through our body. It is kind of like trying to eat shit.
ailsagirl
(24,287 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,453 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)Cooked carrots made me barf all over Mom's white linen table cloth. Needless to say, I didn't have to eat them again.
diva77
(7,880 posts)the smell, the texture, the presentation in that flat can...even the thought of them turns my stomach into a cauldron...