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Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:13 PM Aug 2017

What "good for you" Food Do You Hate the Most?

For me, it's beans. It's always been beans. Beans of any kind. Beans in any form. Beans with any thing. BEANS!!!

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What "good for you" Food Do You Hate the Most? (Original Post) Doug the Dem Aug 2017 OP
Love beans, loathe liver Warpy Aug 2017 #1
I can only eat liver Control-Z Aug 2017 #7
I used to buy raw chicken liver as a treat for the cats Warpy Aug 2017 #33
Liver is nasty. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #19
I've undoubtedly eaten it in sausage over the years Warpy Aug 2017 #20
It is absolutely offal, isn't it? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #23
Uh Warpy Aug 2017 #27
Liver is my food phobia. teezy Aug 2017 #26
Twoo wuv made me try to cook it once Warpy Aug 2017 #31
LOL preparing what looks like a giant blood clot is never appetizing. n/t teezy Aug 2017 #45
I have NEVER been convinced that liver is a food that can possibly be good for you. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #40
It's undoubtedly better for you than bacon Major Nikon Aug 2017 #88
Eggs went through a period of demonization. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #97
Bacon is another ingredient that like eggs is widely misunderstood Major Nikon Aug 2017 #100
Thank you for that information. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #101
The biggest problems with modern diets is too much or too little Major Nikon Aug 2017 #108
It's also overly packed with Vitamin A jmowreader Aug 2017 #98
Yes, but it was asked about food that is good for you. Doreen Aug 2017 #79
Then you haven't been listening Warpy Aug 2017 #82
If I heard that I probably tuned it out. Doreen Aug 2017 #104
I'm totally with you. Can't abide the texture of liver, blech. But give me a classic fierywoman Aug 2017 #109
Yogurt of any stripe Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2017 #2
I'm afraid you'd starve at my house. Yogurt is a daily staple by itself and in lots of dishes. hlthe2b Aug 2017 #4
I also make it Major Nikon Aug 2017 #70
lima beans, liver and any "organ meat" hlthe2b Aug 2017 #3
Liiaaaama beans...... pangaia Aug 2017 #13
Bourbon underpants Aug 2017 #5
Why, lordy me. As fate would have it, pangaia Aug 2017 #10
A "good for you" food? Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #15
It makes me feel good underpants Aug 2017 #25
Bourbon and me are old friends Best_man23 Aug 2017 #55
Mmmmm Blanton's underpants Aug 2017 #57
I think of it as highly concentrated liquid bread Major Nikon Aug 2017 #67
Red, yellow and green bell peppers kimbutgar Aug 2017 #6
ALL BEANS ARE EVIL! Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #18
Ha ha kimbutgar Aug 2017 #21
Brussel Sprouts HopeAgain Aug 2017 #8
Blechk.. pangaia Aug 2017 #12
Me, too. Roast them, they said. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #17
If you ever get the chance to go to France, try them there unblock Aug 2017 #80
Okra.... alittlelark Aug 2017 #9
Blechk... pangaia Aug 2017 #11
You have to deslime it like you do nopales Warpy Aug 2017 #24
They lose their healthiness when they're deep deep fried. LeftInTX Aug 2017 #43
The only food that finishes in your mouth. nt Codeine Aug 2017 #48
I'm considered a picky eater, but I like yogurt, liver, lima beans, okra, etc. Hoyt Aug 2017 #14
Kale. The fact that it's fashionable doesn't make it taste any better. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #16
Gah! Texasgal Aug 2017 #34
I'm with you!!! LeftInTX Aug 2017 #44
kale LoveMyCali Aug 2017 #90
Always cook your kale with coconut oil Freddie Aug 2017 #112
Raw Cucumbers TomSlick Aug 2017 #22
I'm that way about raw onions. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #30
I can't do cucumbers in general crazycatlady Aug 2017 #65
Same reaction to cucumbers.... Dale Neiburg Aug 2017 #111
Never acquired the taste for cottage cheese. Eugene Aug 2017 #28
I need to revise and extend my reply above. TomSlick Aug 2017 #39
Me too on cottage cheese, it's the texture Freddie Aug 2017 #128
Agree--we make chili without them. spooky3 Aug 2017 #29
I hate all melons..except kiwis, if they are a melon. Tikki Aug 2017 #32
Kiwis aren't melons LeftInTX Aug 2017 #47
Brussels Sprouts CanonRay Aug 2017 #35
Vegetables. I'm eating more of them now. I like when they are mixed into a salad with applegrove Aug 2017 #36
Sometimes bad preparation can ruin a good food for you Major Nikon Aug 2017 #74
I think your taste buds change as you grow up and you can tolerate more applegrove Aug 2017 #75
All of your senses tend to diminish as you get older Major Nikon Aug 2017 #77
Any variety of oily fish. teezy Aug 2017 #37
Don't like fish in general Freddie Aug 2017 #129
I'm cool with sea urchins and jellyfish jpak Aug 2017 #38
Kale DBoon Aug 2017 #41
peas Skittles Aug 2017 #42
Canned peas were the bain of my childhood LeftInTX Aug 2017 #49
My brother and I loved canned peas, but not to eat. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #52
The real issue is that people impute magical qualities to certain foods. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #46
I generally try to do the exact opposite of what Michael Pollan says Major Nikon Aug 2017 #72
I was not aware he pushed the paleo thing. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #95
I just don't find such abstract advice of that much value Major Nikon Aug 2017 #99
Interesting points. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2017 #103
The problem with "processed" grain is most of the best parts are removed Major Nikon Aug 2017 #110
Kale Sailor65x1 Aug 2017 #50
That was my choice, too DFW Aug 2017 #137
Meat any kind of burned flesh, I refuse to make my body a grave. Jack-o-Lantern Aug 2017 #51
Your body isn't a grave, regardless of what you eat. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #53
I only eat vegetarians Major Nikon Aug 2017 #68
agreed! mucifer Aug 2017 #60
That animal is long dead. WinkyDink Aug 2017 #73
I love food. Period. It would be more productive to ask what bad-for-me food I love. Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #54
Donald, is that You??? Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #62
Ha! Truth is, I'm a vegan, in spite of missing the taste of a Big Mac, or a good meat loaf. Binkie The Clown Aug 2017 #66
Salmon Best_man23 Aug 2017 #56
You're lucky you didn't get salmonella Orrex Aug 2017 #63
That would be the shits Major Nikon Aug 2017 #71
??? shanny Aug 2017 #92
Oy veh! 🙄 sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #105
That's exactly what they want you to believe Orrex Aug 2017 #113
oh ok... shanny Aug 2017 #115
Oh, you're one of the "fish are cold blooded" true believers. Orrex Aug 2017 #116
yeah, me and NOAA and all those other effing scientists shanny Aug 2017 #117
Obviously they're cold after you get them out of the water Orrex Aug 2017 #118
You're pulling my leg, right? This is a joke, right? Right? shanny Aug 2017 #119
LOL Orrex Aug 2017 #120
whew shanny Aug 2017 #121
Your fears were well-justifed, though! Orrex Aug 2017 #122
God protect and save me from avocados NotASurfer Aug 2017 #58
Peas Rhiannon12866 Aug 2017 #59
Peas are just Beans with more water content, imho Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #133
There are some vegetables I like better than others, but peas truly make me sick Rhiannon12866 Aug 2017 #136
Anything fermented. Laffy Kat Aug 2017 #61
Yogurt is indeed fermented as is cheese, yeast leavened breads... Major Nikon Aug 2017 #69
OK, well I do eat yogurt, chocolate, and cheese. Laffy Kat Aug 2017 #85
Pretty much anything fermented is a migraine trigger for me unblock Aug 2017 #81
I like lima beans! Freddie Aug 2017 #130
You and me, Freddie. Laffy Kat Aug 2017 #131
Avocados. DinahMoeHum Aug 2017 #64
Any kind of seafood. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2017 #76
I'm allergic Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #114
I like the taste but can't stand the feel of okra and egg whites make me feel queasy. appleannie1943 Aug 2017 #78
Agave Not Ruth Aug 2017 #83
Beans, legumes, anything producing "gassy" episodes. peacebuzzard Aug 2017 #84
I can't think of a single vegan whole food I don't love. femmedem Aug 2017 #86
Fresh scamozza, garden tomahtoes, fresh basil, a drizzle of sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #107
Brussels Sprouts. whathehell Aug 2017 #87
Fish, mushrooms, liver, kale, soup, stew. Hubby stopped nagging me to eat fish, finally. Shrike47 Aug 2017 #89
Tofu. shanny Aug 2017 #91
Tofu, yuck. It tastes like your tongue. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #96
That reminds me: Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #135
non-muscle "parts" of animals, sheep Kali Aug 2017 #93
Brussels sprouts Awsi Dooger Aug 2017 #94
creamed cauliflower gopiscrap Aug 2017 #102
Oh yum, that is what I am making for dinner for my boyfriend and I when he gets home. Doreen Aug 2017 #106
I hate cream of corn love liver gopiscrap Aug 2017 #125
Love liver....nasty. Doreen Aug 2017 #132
broccoli ailsagirl Aug 2017 #123
Liver! LeftishBrit Aug 2017 #124
I'm a vegetarian, but it is broccoli. Alice11111 Aug 2017 #126
Cooked Rutabagas. Lifelong Protester Aug 2017 #127
sardines!! diva77 Aug 2017 #134

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
1. Love beans, loathe liver
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:15 PM
Aug 2017

Can't cook it, can't choke it down.

There are other foods I'll eat with long teeth and contemplate puking later but I can't get liver down, at all.

Control-Z

(15,686 posts)
7. I can only eat liver
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:28 PM
Aug 2017

if I don't see or touch it raw first. (And only chicken livers with Water Chestnuts wrapped in bacon.)

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
33. I used to buy raw chicken liver as a treat for the cats
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:07 PM
Aug 2017

It was always hilarious, they'd sniff it and then crouch and growl at it for a good half hour before they realized it was edible.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
20. I've undoubtedly eaten it in sausage over the years
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:59 PM
Aug 2017

along with eyeballs, lips, tongues, and ears, all encased in intestine, the taste completely concealed by sage, garlic, and hot pepper. None for over 2 decades, though.

I just can't eat it if it's on a plate by itself or even in a paté of some description.

I think it's hilarious these days, we peasants are dining on the muscle meats while the rich with jaded palates are being served the offal.

teezy

(269 posts)
26. Liver is my food phobia.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:02 PM
Aug 2017

My mom used to boil it and grind it up for the dogs when I was a kid. Oh god, that smell hung in the air for hours. It would make me vomit, so I'd have to leave the house and stay out for 2 or 3 hours.

Then I became a cook, and 99.9% of the time I never had to worry about seeing it... but there have been the odd occasions. My chief cook and I struck up a deal where I would not have to be in the same room as it or serve it... unless he wanted me to puke all over the serving station. (you're welcome for that visual)

I have never even attempted to eat it because the horror of seeing it go from this dark maroon slime into ground up grey "blah" has solidified my determination not to. There is everything wrong with liver.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
31. Twoo wuv made me try to cook it once
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:04 PM
Aug 2017

When he saw me lean over and puke into the trash can he knew it wasn't happening again.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
40. I have NEVER been convinced that liver is a food that can possibly be good for you.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:15 PM
Aug 2017

Especially when you understand what the actual function of the liver is.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
88. It's undoubtedly better for you than bacon
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:17 PM
Aug 2017

For most types it's high in protein, low in fat, and contains many micronutrients that are often harder to get from other sources of protein.

If you thought about it too much, nobody would eat eggs for the same reason.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
97. Eggs went through a period of demonization.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 11:26 PM
Aug 2017

They are an excellent source of protein. The cholesterol charge is essentially unproven. So eat eggs, unless you don't like them.

And the demonization of eggs points right back to the essential problem: no food is poison, unless you are truly allergic to it. Which means that the gluten free fad is beyond dumb, just to name one current bit of magic food nonsense.

And no food is perfect or the one that absolutely everyone should eat. Except possibly breast milk for infants. And even then, babies can survive quite nicely on something other than mother's milk.

If the liver is in charge of removing wastes from the body, what exactly remains behind in the liver? That's what I think about, and I think has not been adequately addressed. Especially given modern feeding practices. Maybe the liver of an animal that has been free range its whole life is a good thing to eat, but I'm still not convinced.

I'll make a small concession to bacon. I recently bought some that was so incredibly salty that I threw away most of the package. And this from someone who tends to like salty things. I suppose that the sort of smoked bacon that people made in times past, before the commercial version that's currently out there, was just fine. They simply smoked it (reread some of the Laura Ingalls Wilder books for some more information here) and didn't add any other chemicals. Actually, when I was a child we once got some bacon smoked by a farmer who lived near us, and I recall not caring for it because the smoked flavor was so very strong. I'm guessing that's just a good example of how we become accustomed to certain flavors as we grow up, and different flavors of the same foods seem wrong.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
100. Bacon is another ingredient that like eggs is widely misunderstood
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 12:48 AM
Aug 2017

That's not to say bacon is healthy, but it's not unhealthy in the way some claim. The "chemicals" in question are nitrites (and/or nitrates) which are used as preservatives and have been for hundreds of years. Smoking is also a preservation method, but not nearly as effective. Without nitrites it's simply "uncured bacon" which is to say it isn't really bacon at all. The myth is that the curing chemicals are carcinogenic, when the evidence that supports that theory is unsound or simply junk. There's also a variety of cured meat products that advertise "natural" sources of curing agents that are simply chemically the same as traditional methods.

Liver from some animals can contain adverse amounts of heavy metals, but this is generally only the case in less commonly available varieties from certain wild animals (which are certainly free range), but this is also true in certain instances of non-organ meats like mercury content in tuna.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
101. Thank you for that information.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 12:50 AM
Aug 2017

I do get tired of bacon being claimed as totally awful, and liver as totally wonderful.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
108. The biggest problems with modern diets is too much or too little
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:34 AM
Aug 2017

Too many people eat too much of things like processed sugar and starches and not enough fiber and some micronutrients. I'm not a huge fan of liver, but there are some sausages and pates made from it which I think are wonderful.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
79. Yes, but it was asked about food that is good for you.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:52 PM
Aug 2017

I have never heard what good liver is for you.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
82. Then you haven't been listening
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:59 PM
Aug 2017

Been sick? Eat liver.

Pregnant? Eat liver.

Anemic? Eat liver.

Female over the age of menarche? Eat liver.

Had surgery? Eat liver.

I've had that shit pushed at me all my life by well meaning people who swore it "builds the blood." I've been threatened with liver shots by doctors. I said "give me Feosol or give me death." They gave me Feosol. It worked.

Since it's known now that liver is where the pesticides, heavy metals, herbicides, and other horrible things the animal has been exposed to during its life have been sequestered, they don't push it like they used to.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
104. If I heard that I probably tuned it out.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:10 AM
Aug 2017

How can something that causes such a violent gag reflex be good for you? If you remember Mommy Dearest I lived the steak scene except with liver and my father. After that my mother made hamburger for me when she made liver...amazingly enough my father said nothing to her about that.

fierywoman

(8,595 posts)
109. I'm totally with you. Can't abide the texture of liver, blech. But give me a classic
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:06 AM
Aug 2017

pasta-fagioli --- ooooo with a strong vinaigrette dressed radicchio thrown in: heaven!

hlthe2b

(113,961 posts)
4. I'm afraid you'd starve at my house. Yogurt is a daily staple by itself and in lots of dishes.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:18 PM
Aug 2017

I make my own....

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
70. I also make it
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:17 PM
Aug 2017

I like it plain or with muesli, fresh or dried fruit. Can't stand the stuff with added sugar.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
10. Why, lordy me. As fate would have it,
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:38 PM
Aug 2017

I am just now working on a MOUNT GAY 1703 Black Barrel.



Best_man23

(5,268 posts)
55. Bourbon and me are old friends
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 11:07 PM
Aug 2017

Went to Bourbon country for a milestone birthday. Four Roses, Blanton's, and Basil Hayden are residents in my liquor cabinet. :

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
18. ALL BEANS ARE EVIL!
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:51 PM
Aug 2017

Remember what JFK said: "Mankind must put and end to beans, or beans will put and end to mankind."

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
21. Ha ha
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:59 PM
Aug 2017

I grew up that every Saturday my Mother made a big pot of beans and rice. People dropped over on Saturdays for those beans. I old boyfriend who when we broke up lamented he wouldn't have any more of my Mom's beans and rice. Years later like 15 he called me and asked if my Mother still made those beans I said yes and I now made them for my husband. But ironically, my son doesn't like beans and rice!!!!!

My husband has forbid me from making Lima beans though.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
80. If you ever get the chance to go to France, try them there
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:54 PM
Aug 2017

They taste entirely different. Yummy!

Here in America, meh at best.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
24. You have to deslime it like you do nopales
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:01 PM
Aug 2017

either by boiling or grilling. Then they're edible and very nice deep fried in batter.

LeftInTX

(34,292 posts)
43. They lose their healthiness when they're deep deep fried.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:19 PM
Aug 2017

I love deep fried okra, but I like anything deep fried. I don't care for plain okra, the taste is kinda weird. The slime doesn't bother me. I grow cactus and eat it raw.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
16. Kale. The fact that it's fashionable doesn't make it taste any better.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:49 PM
Aug 2017

And it has the texture of a Brillo pad.

I also don't like other fashionable foods: Quinoa (weird texture), arugula (too bitter), and any bakery product that's gluten-free (too heavy and gummy) (yes, I know some people have gluten sensitivities and it's good that gluten-free food is available for them, but for people who don't have gluten sensitivities it's just a fad and won't do them any good).

Texasgal

(17,240 posts)
34. Gah!
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:08 PM
Aug 2017

I agree.. Kale is the devils work!!! How anyone could make this bitter tasting green so fashionable is beyond me!

I also can't stand the taste of Quinoa. GROSS! I don't care how you "season it".

LoveMyCali

(2,047 posts)
90. kale
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:23 PM
Aug 2017

blech, the only good thing about it is if you are trying to lose weight one bite can be chewed for the entire day and still maintain it's original shape and size.

I'm not a picky eater but kale and lima beans

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
112. Always cook your kale with coconut oil
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 06:35 AM
Aug 2017

Makes it easier to scrape out of the pan into the garbage.
Actually once had a deli-prepared kale salad that was pretty good - kale was drenched in a creamy Caesar dressing and Parmesan cheese - which undoubtedly negated the healthiness of the kale.

TomSlick

(13,013 posts)
22. Raw Cucumbers
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 09:59 PM
Aug 2017

I like pickled cucumbers - just not raw.

Will not - cannot - eat them. If a salad has cucumbers in it, simply picking out the cucumbers isn't enough - the whole thing is ruined. My loving wife (who likes cucumbers) has given them up because I can't stand to smell them being sliced in the house.

I'm not crazy about Lima beans but can eat them. I will eat anything being served - just not cucumbers.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
30. I'm that way about raw onions.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:04 PM
Aug 2017

Can't stand the smell and can't eat anything they are in, even after I've picked them out, because their taste lingers and it's horrible.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
65. I can't do cucumbers in general
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 10:16 AM
Aug 2017

They were a food that I was forced to eat as a child (I don't know how many times my breakfast was my plate of cucumbers from dinner that I wouldn't touch) and to this day I can't stand the sight or smell of one.

I won't even do pickles.

Dale Neiburg

(797 posts)
111. Same reaction to cucumbers....
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 05:51 AM
Aug 2017

The smell of raw cucumbers makes me borderline nauseous, and it infects anything else that's been in contact with them. I like them fine pickled or cooked (as in Thai cooking).

TomSlick

(13,013 posts)
39. I need to revise and extend my reply above.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:12 PM
Aug 2017

I hate cottage cheese too. It's clabbered (i.e. spoiled) milk. Can cottage cheese go bad? If cottage cheese goes bad, does it taste good?

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
128. Me too on cottage cheese, it's the texture
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:42 PM
Aug 2017

The lumps - no. Not crazy about ricotta either (same idea) I will omit it in my homemade lasagna (just use mozzarella and Parmesan) and push it to the side of the plate when eating other lasagna.

Tikki

(15,140 posts)
32. I hate all melons..except kiwis, if they are a melon.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:05 PM
Aug 2017

But I do love most other fruits.

I can only eat fresh strawberries..no strawberry jam or strawberry ice cream or
strawberry icing, etc.

Tikki

applegrove

(132,207 posts)
36. Vegetables. I'm eating more of them now. I like when they are mixed into a salad with
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:09 PM
Aug 2017

nuts and dries fruit. But I have always hated them. The one I hated the most as a kid was squash. I remember being 4 and told I had to eat my squash at dinner. I stuffed the squash into my cheeks till my formal grandmother told me I looked like a chipmunk. At some point after that my mom allowed us each one thing we never had to eat. I picked squash.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
74. Sometimes bad preparation can ruin a good food for you
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:32 PM
Aug 2017

Lots of foods I ate as a kid were just made badly and tasted horrible. Many of them I discovered later in life using different methods of cooking and seasoning.

applegrove

(132,207 posts)
75. I think your taste buds change as you grow up and you can tolerate more
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:40 PM
Aug 2017

bitter in food. And then it changes again when you get old. I'm finding this now. My buds are gone.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
77. All of your senses tend to diminish as you get older
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:47 PM
Aug 2017

That's why younger people tend to be more sensitive to spicy foods. Also don't discount the impact smell has on flavor. You can only detect a handful of different tastes, but can differentiate hundreds of different smells, even in very small quantities and when accompanying must stronger smells. I am constantly finding new ways to use herbs in my cooking. Growing them myself helps quite a bit.

teezy

(269 posts)
37. Any variety of oily fish.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:10 PM
Aug 2017

I've tried. Salmon, trout, herring, white fish... gross.

I wish I liked it.

And eggplant - the worst vegetable on the planet.

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
129. Don't like fish in general
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:53 PM
Aug 2017

Tuna drenched in mayo, yes. Other fish, no. Of course it s healthy, low calorie, etc. My Millennial kids love sushi, the thought is repulsive. I think it's a generational thing as everyone their age likes it.

jpak

(41,780 posts)
38. I'm cool with sea urchins and jellyfish
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:12 PM
Aug 2017

but kidneys that have not been properly prepared are a No No.

yup

Skittles

(171,709 posts)
42. peas
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:16 PM
Aug 2017

when I was a kid in England my grandma piled them high - I would just stare and grimace.....at the end of supper my grandfather would scoop a big handful of them on his way out.....years after he had passed I told my mother about that she said WOW, HE DID THAT FOR ME TOO!

LeftInTX

(34,292 posts)
49. Canned peas were the bain of my childhood
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:29 PM
Aug 2017

My second earliest memory in life was going to dinner at my parents' friend house. I was told that as a guest, I had to eat everything they served. They served peas. I sat there and stared with tears rolling down my cheeks. I didn't complain. Everyone was like, "What's the matter?" "Why are you crying?" I refused to say why. I was too scared. I finally whispered to my mom, "They have peas".

My first memory is of falling out of a car.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
52. My brother and I loved canned peas, but not to eat.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:47 PM
Aug 2017

For fun we'd sneak them off our plates and throw them at the bathroom mirror, because they splatted so nicely. I agree that they are not very edible.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
46. The real issue is that people impute magical qualities to certain foods.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:22 PM
Aug 2017

No food is magic. Nor is any food toxic (despite my above stated opinion about liver) unless you are deadly allergic to that food.

Eat what you like. Try, as Michael Pollan says, to eat real food, not too much. If your grandmother wouldn't recognize something as food, you should probably skip it.

Oh, and the whole paleo thing is a load of crap because we are NOT our paleolithic ancestors. And vegetarianism is likewise dumb (and I bet I get a lot of hate mail for this) because we evolved as omnivores. Not to mention, eating only raw food makes no sense because we became fully human once we started eating cooked food, and simply don't have the digestive tract appropriate to a raw-food eating species.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
72. I generally try to do the exact opposite of what Michael Pollan says
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 07:06 PM
Aug 2017

Mostly because the stuff he promotes relies heavily on junk science, including the paleo thing. The same can be said for just about all so-called "healthy food" trends which are specious at best.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
95. I was not aware he pushed the paleo thing.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 11:17 PM
Aug 2017

I remember him best for:

Eat real food. Not too much. Mostly vegetables.

And the caveat that what you eat should be something your grandmother would recognize as real food. I try to stick to those rules. And as I said above, the paleo thing is nonsense.

As an aside, several years ago I got in the habit of bringing some sort of baked treat to share with my coworkers at my job. As I'd tell them, I love to bake and I live alone. Cookies, brownies, cakes. All made from scratch. Real scratch, not simply doctoring up a mix, as a friend recently thought I meant. Flour, sugar, butter, sugar, eggs, and so on.

It was almost embarrassing, how much they enjoyed by treats. It was so obvious that almost none of them had ever had anything made from anything but a mix. In recent years I find that the cookies and cakes I get at bakeries are to me, inedible, because they've started using commercial mixes. There's a distinct chemical taste, not the glorious explosion of flavor from the real thing.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
99. I just don't find such abstract advice of that much value
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 12:26 AM
Aug 2017

Most people don't eat enough vegetables and legumes, but most of what he says is just garbage. There are things our grandparents ate which are complete crap, while things we have today they wouldn't recognize are completely healthy. There's also lots of things they wouldn't recognize that come from different areas and more diverse cultures that are better than what they had. For instance unless your grandparents are Asian, they probably wouldn't know what to do with tofu, yet it's an excellent source of protein. There's also all sorts of advances in food science that makes what we have far better today. That's not to say all of it is good as it clearly isn't, but neither does that go for all sorts of things widely available to our grandparents. Even if you make things yourself from scratch, and I almost do, it doesn't change the fact that those basic ingredients of which you speak like flour, sugar, butter, baking powder, etc. are still heavily processed and aren't really any more or less healthy than stuff that does come from a box or a commercial bakery.

I think it's better advice to get people to actually read the labels on their processed food and understand the fundamentals of basic nutrition along the lines of macro and micro nutrients, then keeping things in balance. When people start giving abstract advice like eating "clean" or less processed, or pure, or organic, or paleo, or gluten free, any other fad, there's a good chance they are full of shit.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
103. Interesting points.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:02 AM
Aug 2017

But I will come back to the fact that I notice the chemical taste in things like cakes made from a mix.

Here's a story I like to tell. Some years back, when my mother was turning 80, we had a nice party for her. I was asked to bake a couple of cakes, which I did. If you'd been at the party you'd have had a choice of chocolate cake with white frosting or chocolate cake with chocolate frosting, or a something that was made with graham crackers and whipped cream (my sister's contribution. I made the cakes). I made the cakes and I used the recipe on the back of the Hershey's cocoa mix. I do sheet cakes because I'm a complete failure at making layer cakes.

Every single person who took a piece of cake that day ate the entire piece. My sister (at whose home the event was held) was completely astonished. She had three young children and was used to having birthday and other parties where she baked a cake. With a mix. And the kids rarely finished a piece of cake. Hmmmm. Might there be a connection here. Cake made from raw ingredients: everyone finishes. Cake made from a mix: people don't finish.

I will politely disagree and say that the things like flour, sugar, butter, and so on are not that heavily processed. In fact, the flour we get today is probably far better than at least some of the flour available in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Same with things like milk. The Pure Food and Drug Act of whenever has made a huge difference. We have vastly better commodities than was available in the past.

A side note. I do happen to like potato chips. I absolutely despise the various flavored ones, mainly because they taste like crap. Again, there's a strong chemical taste that is extremely unpleasant. But if you start eating such things as a child, it becomes the norm. Until, perhaps, you have the exquisite pleasure of eating potato chips made fresh from very thinly sliced potatoes. Oh, my.

I love french fries, and one of the things I do not like about the city I live in (Santa Fe, NM) is that it is totally obvious to me that the french fries I get here are almost invariably made from frozen. Yuck. One of the things I love about Portland, OR, is that the french fries I get there are invariably made from potatoes. Fresh. Oh, my.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
110. The problem with "processed" grain is most of the best parts are removed
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 02:24 AM
Aug 2017

You can actually process your own flour, which provided you have an adequate mill produces results more or less the same as that which would have been available 100-200 or even 1,000 years ago, which isn't all that different from what you can get from most any local market. The differences come in with protein content and which parts of the grain remains in the finished product. White all-purpose flour that most people are familiar with has the bran and germ removed along with the fiber and micronutrients that go with them with only the starchy endosperm remaining. Baked goods that utilize whole grains tend to be heavier and don't leaven as much, but contain more flavor, fiber, and nutrients. Butter is processed so that milk solids and milk fats remain while the other parts are removed. Sugar is refined from cane or beet sources to remove fiber and retain sucrose. So that's what I mean by "heavily processed". They are very much different from the raw materials they are derived from.

I think there's something to be said for advances in food science which produce things like leavening agents, binders, preservatives, emulsifiers, thickening agents, and other additives which replace things which have been used for hundreds of years that perform the same purpose. Sometimes these things result in lower quality for the sake of cost reduction and sometimes they produce superior results. I can and often do make most everything from scratch, but I actually like box cake mixes as they contain some superior ingredients that aren't practical to get yourself, although they do tend to produce a result that anyone can (and does) repeat a bit too often.

I occassionally make my own french fries and actually purposely freeze them. The reason being I can prepare them in larger batches, and freezing allows for a crispy outside and a tender inside that's hard to get otherwise.

DFW

(60,182 posts)
137. That was my choice, too
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:26 AM
Aug 2017

I hear all the benefits and even eat it once in a while in salads--with the greatest of reluctance!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
53. Your body isn't a grave, regardless of what you eat.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:50 PM
Aug 2017

Your food is digested and converted to chemicals your body can use and energy to keep you going. If you don't want to eat meat, don't eat it.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
54. I love food. Period. It would be more productive to ask what bad-for-me food I love.
Tue Aug 22, 2017, 10:51 PM
Aug 2017

There are lots of those!

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
62. Donald, is that You???
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:31 AM
Aug 2017










Don't know what the hell you're doing here among the adults, but if this IS you, keep up the excellent dietary habits! In fact, I you should eat more fast food brands: Wendy's, Sugar Shack, Chili's, Popeye's, Arby's and more! And remember, exercise is for cucks!

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
66. Ha! Truth is, I'm a vegan, in spite of missing the taste of a Big Mac, or a good meat loaf.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 11:15 AM
Aug 2017

The good news, I've found lots and lots of delicious vegan foods that I enjoy just a much.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
92. ???
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 10:20 PM
Aug 2017

Salmonella doesn't come from salmon...you know that, right? Most often, you get it from raw poultry and meat, raw eggs and unpasteurized dairy products.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
115. oh ok...
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:57 AM
Aug 2017

which do you think is more likely that "they" want us to believe: that salmonella (i.e. salmonella enterica subspecies which are found worldwide in all warm-blooded animals) 1) comes from salmon, or 2) comes from unsafe food processing and cross contamination?

https://www.livescience.com/50952-salmonella-outbreak-raw-tuna.html

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
116. Oh, you're one of the "fish are cold blooded" true believers.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:58 AM
Aug 2017

If that were true, how would they have the energy to swim up waterfalls?

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
119. You're pulling my leg, right? This is a joke, right? Right?
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 11:30 AM
Aug 2017

or is it....The Twilight Zone.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
122. Your fears were well-justifed, though!
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 11:33 AM
Aug 2017

There is no crazy theory so crazy that some crazy theorist won't believe it whole-heartedly.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
136. There are some vegetables I like better than others, but peas truly make me sick
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 04:06 AM
Aug 2017

I can't stand them in anything, can't even stand the smell - and it sends me over the edge when people toss peas into something that would otherwise be fine - "for color."

Laffy Kat

(16,952 posts)
61. Anything fermented.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:13 AM
Aug 2017

The only fermented substance I'll consume is alcohol and yogurt (I think yogurt is fermented?). Also: kale, organ meats (which I don't believe are good for you, anyway). Am I the only one on DU who likes lima/butter beans? They are yummy cooked slowly with a slab of salt pork or bacon thrown in.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
69. Yogurt is indeed fermented as is cheese, yeast leavened breads...
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:13 PM
Aug 2017

pickles, some sausage products like pepperoni, real sour cream, chocolate, some condiments like ketchup and hot sauces, and probably dozens of other common food items I'm forgetting.

Laffy Kat

(16,952 posts)
85. OK, well I do eat yogurt, chocolate, and cheese.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:03 PM
Aug 2017

No pickles though, or ketchup, or hot sauce for me.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
81. Pretty much anything fermented is a migraine trigger for me
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 08:58 PM
Aug 2017

Usually I can't get past the smell....

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
130. I like lima beans!
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 11:05 PM
Aug 2017

Cooked in a tomato sauce with a little bacon, they're delicious. I also like to put the frozen vegetable mix that includes limas in beef stew.

Laffy Kat

(16,952 posts)
131. You and me, Freddie.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 11:08 PM
Aug 2017

The rest of DU can do without lima beans. Just leaves more for us.

peacebuzzard

(5,870 posts)
84. Beans, legumes, anything producing "gassy" episodes.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:01 PM
Aug 2017

I travel often, and that can be very uncomfortable. I love beans and legumes though, just not convenient to be in public after consuming!

femmedem

(8,561 posts)
86. I can't think of a single vegan whole food I don't love.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:06 PM
Aug 2017

Yum to:

Kale sautéed with cumin, garlic and paprika.
Roasted Brussel sprouts
all the beans
quinoa, so long as it is rinsed first
all the nuts
all the fruits
sauerkraut
sweet potatoes

Yum. Yum. Yum.

It's been a long time since I ate any meat, poultry or fish, but I didn't like shellfish.
Never was crazy about cottage cheese.
Milk tastes disgusting and thick and ... gaggers.

I wish I could say I was strictly vegan but I can't resist fresh mozzarella with garden tomatoes and basil.

sprinkleeninow

(22,343 posts)
107. Fresh scamozza, garden tomahtoes, fresh basil, a drizzle of
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:22 AM
Aug 2017

California evoo.

Did you and my husband go to different schools together?!😆
He asks for this every nite of the week! 🙄

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
89. Fish, mushrooms, liver, kale, soup, stew. Hubby stopped nagging me to eat fish, finally.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 09:21 PM
Aug 2017

Heck, I retch when I smell it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,533 posts)
96. Tofu, yuck. It tastes like your tongue.
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 11:23 PM
Aug 2017

But kind of slimy. It's sort of OK fried, but otherwise - yuck.

Kali

(56,829 posts)
93. non-muscle "parts" of animals, sheep
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 10:23 PM
Aug 2017

lima and kidney beans (all others I have tried are fine/delicious)

oddly I don't like fresh cooked spinach as a side dish, though in other food it is fine as is raw baby spinach in salads and such, but I do like canned spinach as long as it has a touch of bacon grease

I am way more picky about textures and preparation than actual items of food.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
94. Brussels sprouts
Wed Aug 23, 2017, 11:10 PM
Aug 2017

I also don't like cauliflower.

The sight of those two turns me off immediately. I can't say I even know what they taste like. I guess I've tried to suppress my brief sampling from decades ago.

Above all I despise cheese. If I had to choose between ridding the world of cheese or Donald Trump, it would be an extremely difficult call. I suppose with this much time remaining in his term I would go with Trump. But not without considerable angst. That's how much I hate cheese.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
106. Oh yum, that is what I am making for dinner for my boyfriend and I when he gets home.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 01:14 AM
Aug 2017

No not really. That is just as bad as cream of corn which for me is right up there with liver.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
132. Love liver....nasty.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 12:10 AM
Aug 2017

Why would someone want to eat the organ in the body that absorbs and filters out the nasty stuff going through our body. It is kind of like trying to eat shit.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
127. Cooked Rutabagas.
Thu Aug 24, 2017, 10:39 PM
Aug 2017

Cooked carrots made me barf all over Mom's white linen table cloth. Needless to say, I didn't have to eat them again.

diva77

(7,880 posts)
134. sardines!!
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 02:10 AM
Aug 2017

the smell, the texture, the presentation in that flat can...even the thought of them turns my stomach into a cauldron...


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