Get a load of the B.S. a GOP follower tried to tell me about "Obamacare"

[nightscanner59]

I had started a reasonable discussion about Obamacare provisions to take effect in 2014 on YouTube replies to a TYT video about that. It slowly degenerated into the user called "GOP2010" posting the following as a reply to a post I made about my own situation being rejected time and again for insurance plans due to pre-existing conditions and how sharing information about my condition seems a violation of HIPPA, to some extent. Here is how GOP2010 responded:
" If you're upset about medical info sharing and HIPPA violations, just wait for ObamaCare!!  Administrators are even promoting "group medical visits" so 9 strangers can hear you discuss your symptoms with a physician... ObamaCare also mandates physicians inquire about any firearms you may own, tobacco use & your sex life including sexual-orientation...all to be shared with the Fed Govt!! "

My paraphrased response to this poster:
B.S. but thanx for playing. GOP has already attempted too many paranoid distortions about these provisions. Have a nice life.

Even GOP faithful followers either believe the BS they are fed via right wing channels, or they have become so used to any tactic, including pure BS to try and repeal Obamacare. They are so afraid this might just work!

[LuvNewcastle]

1. I didn't know this forum existed until I saw your post just now.

Every time my family gets together I hear these ridiculous stories about some 'hidden' provision of Obamacare. I have to spend holidays and birthdays debunking garbage they've heard on Fox, Limbaugh, etc. I'll check out this forum before we get together again.

Some of the things these RWers are so concerned about are just silly. I mean, what doctor doesn't already ask you if you smoke and plenty of other personal questions? Doctors already report to the CDC if you get some infectious disease, also. The government can already find out anything about you that it wants to know, if it doesn't know already. How is Obamacare going to make things worse? And as far as group visits, why that's just absurd.

Until we repeal the Patriot Act and put some new safeguards in place to protect personal information from prying eyes, which I'm all for, we're going to have a government that knows everything about us. Obamacare isn't going to make it worse. All we need is a law that protects our medical records so that even if information is shared, it will be anonymous. But it's typical of RWers to advocate tearing down an entire program because of a few problems with it. When they say they want reform, they're lying. All they want to do is to destroy.

[obxhead]

5. Actually group visits are a up and coming thing that is on the rise.

However it is not forced upon patients, it is an option that a patient is offered. The visit is not entirely in group form though, you do get one on one time with the doctor as well.

To tell you the truth it's something I would possibly be interested in. You get to visit with the doctor with other patients suffering from similar problems and everyone gets to ask questions. There are bound to be questions that another patient brings up that you might never think of at the time of the visit, but would be important to know. Kind of like a brain storming session on your illness.

Oh, you also won't be sitting around naked or in a gown with strangers.

I'm not sure I'll ever be a part of one, but the idea actually intrigues me instead of repulsing me.

[JDPriestly]

11. I never thought of it as a "group visit to a doctor," but when I lived in Austria

and had a baby, the town pediatrician called in all the women who had just had babies that month and gave us many wonderful, helpful suggestions about raising our children. I remember one rather funny but useful piece of advice she gave. (Remember, this was in Austria where women at the time were extremely meticulous housekeepers -- very, very, very neat and made me feel absolutely horrible about my own messiness.) She said if your baby starts to tear something, just give him or her a newspaper to tear up.

She also told us that our babies were born at a specific time when they would barely be six when the first year of school and barely three when the first year of Austrian kindergarten started and that if we wanted to make sure our babies succeeded in school, we should consider waiting a year so that they would be more mature when they started first grade. I took that advice, and when we came to America, my youngest daughter made up the time by skipping a grade. But that advice was just wonderful. It permitted my daughter to develop a lot of self-confidence that she would not have had (in my opinion) had she been sent to kindergarten and school a year earlier on schedule.

So, "group visit to a doctor" can mean extra services. I never was expected to discuss personal matters with my doctor in front of other people. That's not what it means.

It would be for example, a discussion of good healthcare during the prenatal period, or special diabetes issues, weight loss, or something like that.

[obxhead]

19. Over the last few weeks I've been going through DVT

As someone who has been very healthy for a lifetime the dozens of appointments have been overwhelming.

After every single visit I find myself with yet another question I wish I had asked. I've taken to writing questions down so I'm better prepared for my visits, however I think a group visit might have been far more productive and helped me far more than the one on one visits I've had.

With the limited crash course I've been subjected to in our healthcare system I can say we it's not improvement we need, but a total reformation. I think group visits might be something we really should consider expanding.

[watoos]

12. Allegheny Hospital in Pittsburgh, a very reputable hospital,

used a group session with my father who had prostate cancer, with 5 or 6 other families with members who also had prostate cancer. The session was great. Questions that I hadn't thought about asking other people asked. It made our decision of what type of treatment to use on my father a lot easier.

[nightscanner59]

23. GOP2010 was re-framing any group visit as some paranoid thing

As though you would never have any privacy with your doctor. Group visits for patients with similar problems are a great idea, patients can share their questions and experiences in ways that private-only sessions can miss.

[nightscanner59]

24. GOP2010 was re-framing any group visit as some paranoid thing

as though you would never have privacy with your doctor, and attributing the "privacy invasion aspect" idea to Obamacare. Reportable illnesses have long been CDC mandated, he's extending the metaphor, so to speak.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

2. Obamacare touched me in a very naughty place and killed my mommy.

Obamacare caused Gavrilo Princip to assasinate Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand. If Obamacare didn't exist, World War 1 would never have happened.

Obamacare caused my flat tire, my impotency and my lumbago.

[The Wizard]

6. I'm sorry

But I'm stealing this and adding to it. Obamacare pays for testicular massages administered by sex workers.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. I thought Bob Dole cause ED and impotency. nt

[pangaia]

16. I am truly sorry for you difficulties due to Obamacare.

BTW- How did you come up with 'Nanjing to Seoul?" - if I may ask.

[Nanjing to Seoul]

17. living in asia. i live in suzhou. i lived in nanjing, i lived in shijiazhuang, i lived in seoul.

thanks for your sympathy. luckily obamacare is paying for my mental health expenses.

[pangaia]

22. I checked Google Maps just for kicks

1680 miles and it says 20.5 hours ! Driving time. WOW! :&gt

I've been to China 6-7 times-- many places as a 'traveler,' business, --rather than as a tourist. Never lived there.. but always love it..
Have friends in Guangzhou, Qingdao, Guilin, Dali, Chendu....
Oh I love to eat....

[madrchsod]

3. i`m sure people with ODS will be treated under obamacare.

[Cryptoad]

4. But it hard to deny

that ObamaCare is making the GOP wet their britches. And what is scary is that I think most of them really believe their own BullChit! I Think they have a name for that disease,,,,,,,,,

[HuskyOffset]

7. The real question is . . .

. . . is that disease covered under the ACA (Obamacare)?

[Cryptoad]

20. Seems it is Terminal....! nt

[A Simple Game]

8. Don't be fooled, the GOP aren't really afraid of Obamacare.

They are afraid of the next logical step which is single payer.

[watoos]

13. I agree

and it will happen state by state. Hopefully Vermont can get the ball rolling.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. GOP is deathly afraid of ObamaCare because it could easily be a great SUCCESS. nt

[sulphurdunn]

18. Single Payer?

What about the skim? What about the payola?

[The Wizard]

9. Obamacare

caused Michele Bachmann to steal campaign funds and gave her Tourette's compounded by The Vapors.

[The Wizard]

10. I ask them to show me the page(s)

in the law where these wild assertions exist.

[Curmudgeoness]

21. Nature abhors a vacuum

and, unfortunately, there is not enough education on Obamacare. I don't know if this is the fault of the government, or the press, or all of them, but the best way to have misinformation is to avoid talking about it. There should have been a blitz of information when this was first enacted, and whenever some rumor started, it should have been nipped in the bud.

Instead, we have sat back and done nothing. The more we say nothing, the more the rumors are repeated, and they soon become facts in the minds of people who are not digging deeply....and few will bother to dig deeply.