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TBF

(32,013 posts)
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 05:16 PM Jan 2016

Over 50, Female & Jobless

(TBF note: when even the NYTimes notices, it is likely a trend with even larger ramifications than they are stating)


“Older displaced women are less likely than displaced men of the same ages to be re-employed and more likely to have left the labor force,” she noted in a recent analysis.


The latest signs of an improving economy were good enough to help persuade the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates for the first time in nearly a decade. But the better job market is not good enough to land Chettie McAfee a job.

Laid off at the start of the recession from the diagnostic testing firm in Seattle where she spent more than three decades, Ms. McAfee, 58, has not worked since 2007. “I’ve been applying and applying and applying,” said Ms. McAfee, who has relied on her savings and family to get by as she fights off attempts to foreclose on her home. At interviews, she said, “They ask, ‘Why has it been so long?’”

At 5 percent, the jobless rate may be close to what economists consider full employment, but that headline figure doesn’t capture the challenges still facing millions of Americans who have yet to regain their footing in the workplace.

Ms. McAfee is part of a group that has found the postrecession landscape particularly difficult to navigate: women over 50 ...

Much more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/02/business/economy/over-50-female-and-jobless-even-as-others-return-to-work.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. This is the America that we've let the Oligarchy dictate for us. We need a change from what's
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

been happening for the last 40 years. Sen Sanders offers that change. HRC does not offer that change.

TBF

(32,013 posts)
3. Millenials are kicking it on Reddit -
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

the youth vote mattered for Obama & now it is even more organized. They are full out for Bernie. He can win the GE.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
4. Male millennials, yes. Female millennials are just as likely to support Hillary.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jan 2016

According to a recent Harvard Institute poll, among millennial women, Bernie and Hillary are statistically tied (results within the margin of error).

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/us/politics/moms-and-daughters-debate-gender-factor-in-hillary-clintons-bid.html

Mrs. Clinton’s standing among white women has declined in some recent polls, but women remain the backbone of her support. More than half of all women said they had a favorable opinion of Mrs. Clinton, compared with 36 percent of men, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released this month.

But just 38 percent of women aged 18 to 29 said they supported Mrs. Clinton in the Democratic primary, compared with 40 percent for Mr. Sanders, according to a poll of 2,011 young people released Thursday by Harvard’s Institute of Politics.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
2. That 5% jobless rate only counts those they want to count...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jan 2016

Can you imagine what would happen if everybody counted? And the real rate was known? There'd be millions of Americans demanding action and we can't have that, now can we? Especially from this congress.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
6. So, basically...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jan 2016

Society says that if you are over 50, your are garbage and should not live. Because, you know, without a job is kinda difficult to live.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
7. Yes. I know.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jan 2016

I am one of them. Nearly the same story as Ms. McAfee, although I managed some seasonal and contract work for a few years early on. I have money in my pension, as well as in annuities. I'm not old enough to collect on any of it. I'll probably drop dead of some stress-related illness before that, anyway. I wish I had just one year's income that I lost after getting laid off...

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
9. caregivers
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

that is what happens to us here. It operates much like prostitution - the company charges a high price and the caregiver gets to keep less than half of that. The company does quite well. The women invest their heart and soul for low pay.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
17. And by 50-55 many caregivers have ruined their backs or
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jan 2016

other parts of their body by living and transferring patients many times over. At that point they have few options. And they have been paid very little.

burfman

(264 posts)
11. Heck it ain't so easy for men over 50 either.....
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jan 2016

Regardless of the law there is age discrimination out there for both men and women.
If you got a job great, if you don't and you're over 50 you're pretty much screwed in this economy.
Couldn't appreciate 'Death of a Salesman' when I was younger as I do now.
Even though we have had a democrat as president for the last 7 years, other than getting health insurance the job market seems just as Darwinian if not more so now.

TBF

(32,013 posts)
18. It's not - but it's even harder for women which
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 12:19 AM
Jan 2016

is why I pulled this quote from way down in the article and placed it at the top:

“Older displaced women are less likely than displaced men of the same ages to be re-employed and more likely to have left the labor force,” she noted in a recent analysis.

The whole point of the article is to focus on women over 50 because they are having the hardest time.

For once we are going to focus on women here.



zazen

(2,978 posts)
12. connection between sexual trauma=disease and chronic pain, so women more at risk of these problems
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jan 2016

zazen

(2,978 posts)
13. females more likely to have taken time off to raise kids or care for elderly-- and penalized for it
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jan 2016

zazen

(2,978 posts)
14. these women more likely to fall into Medicaid expansion gap like here in NC
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jan 2016

and thus get no help for the stress-induced and other illnesses they are more likely to face, while their elderly parents paradoxically have social security income and Medicare.

So, if you're between 40 and 67 and lose your job and/or get sick, go off and die quickly.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
15. I landed a job last December at age 60 after 4 years of unemployment.
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jan 2016

Ageism is a real problem. A REAL problem.

And I work in non- profit, where job security is nil.

I have friends in their 40s living back east who have been out of work for over 5 years.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
16. Anyone else see that picture...
Sat Jan 2, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jan 2016

...and think "Star Trek"??? Then I kind of kicked myself and reminded myself this is serious stuff.

TBF

(32,013 posts)
20. There's always one -
Sun Jan 3, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jan 2016


But, yes, now that you pointed it out I am seeing a little Deanna Troi in her ...
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