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Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:15 AM

Documenting Deliberate Sabotage (Voting in AZ)

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(TBF Note: Free and Fair voting in the United States of America? If you have been paying attention to the primary process you know that is not the case in this country in 2016.)

Something Is Going Seriously Wrong at Arizona Polls Today
Nathan Wellman | March 22, 2016

Arizona’s primaries aren’t even done yet, and there’s already legal action being taken as a result of incompetence or possibly even intentional sabotage.

Leaders from the Arizona branch of the Democratic Party have confirmed that its lawyers are officially making an inquiry after multiple Democratic voters showed up to the polls only to find that they were listed as independents, Republicans, or had no party affiliation at all.

Many voters wound up having to wait in line under the hot Arizona sun only to find that they were ineligible to vote for the candidates of their choice. To add insult to injury, the polling locations have been so poorly planned that many voters had to wait in line up to four hours before finding out that their information had been improperly filed.

Bernie's campaign trying to track the votes (as AZ deliberately sabotages the process): https://votetracker.berniesanders.com/report/AZ/

Many photos and also videos at the link documenting the sabotage:





http://usuncut.com/news/arizona-polling-disaster/

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TBF Mar 2016 OP
chwaliszewski Mar 2016 #1
jalan48 Mar 2016 #2
Bubzer Mar 2016 #3
Yallow Mar 2016 #20
billhicks76 Mar 2016 #50
Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #4
SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #7
840high Mar 2016 #51
Post removed Mar 2016 #54
EndElectoral Mar 2016 #5
tartan2 Mar 2016 #6
jwirr Mar 2016 #8
certainot Mar 2016 #55
TBF Mar 2016 #61
jwirr Mar 2016 #62
aggiesal Mar 2016 #9
Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #32
Martin Eden Mar 2016 #10
bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #26
Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #33
All in it together Mar 2016 #11
2naSalit Mar 2016 #30
Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #35
Akamai Mar 2016 #12
NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #13
TBF Mar 2016 #15
dflprincess Mar 2016 #52
a2liberal Mar 2016 #56
RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #14
TBF Mar 2016 #16
Yallow Mar 2016 #21
bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #27
RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #29
Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #36
TBF Mar 2016 #40
WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #44
TBF Mar 2016 #47
SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #49
gsb54 Mar 2016 #17
SCVDem Mar 2016 #18
TBF Mar 2016 #19
Yallow Mar 2016 #22
SCVDem Mar 2016 #23
Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #28
Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #37
blackspade Mar 2016 #24
Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2016 #25
2naSalit Mar 2016 #31
TBF Mar 2016 #34
Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #38
TBF Mar 2016 #39
TBF Mar 2016 #41
modestybl Mar 2016 #42
HeartoftheMidwest Mar 2016 #43
TBF Mar 2016 #46
Stonepounder Mar 2016 #45
Volaris Mar 2016 #58
TBF Mar 2016 #48
passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #57
Volaris Mar 2016 #59
TBF Mar 2016 #60
SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #53

Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:06 AM

1. WTF?

I thought this was the 21st century?

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:10 AM

2. This is today's democracy in the US.

Get in line! You wouldn't want to miss the show.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:13 AM

3. Helen Purcell Needs to be fired. The people standing in the Arizona sun had their lives put at risk.

She should also be brought up on charges for reckless endangerment.

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Response to Bubzer (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:53 AM

20. Fired? Try Life In Prison

 

And all assets seized, and donated to charity.

I am sure she will get a platinum parachute since she serves the .01% so well, keeping all them poor/young people away from the polls, and screwing up their paperwork on purpose.

Wouldn't want no change now would we?

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Response to Yallow (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:33 PM

50. Prosecute That Villan

 

And redo this horrid primary.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:19 AM

4. This "anything to win mentality" tells you everything about Clinton you need to know:

 

complete lack of principles, and full disregard for ordinary men and women and children.

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Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:28 AM

7. Well she can't win on her flip flopping erhm evolving

co-opting of Bernie's policies.....so, cheating it is.

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Response to SammyWinstonJack (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:38 PM

51. True.

 

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:20 AM

5. My God are those photos for real...those folks have more patience than me.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:22 AM

6. BEWARE this is just the beginning

of voting sabotage! This is going to happen in more and more places. We can thank the Republicans for their witch hunt on voter fraud!! The last time I went to the polls was in 2000! Ever since I have applied and received an absentee ballot to vote with. It's very easy. In this day and age of technology there is absolutely no excuse for the crap that is going on!!

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Response to tartan2 (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:48 AM

8. It isn't us who have to beware. Hillary needs to call off her

cheaters. Every person who stood in those lines and understands this will not be standing in line in November.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:29 AM

55. republicans are running this- you couldn't make rove happier

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Response to certainot (Reply #55)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:36 AM

61. Republicans -

in this group (socialist progressives) we discuss the maleficence of those who are in power and how they oppress others. The woman in charge of this particular act of voter sabotage/suppression is a republican. But I think we need to acknowledge that the media and certain prominent political candidates are complicit.

Bernie Sanders came out very forcefully against this suppression. I haven't heard any other presidential candidates calling for this to be investigated. I would like to thank the democratic mayor of Phoenix Greg Stanton for stepping up and asking DOJ to take a look.

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Response to certainot (Reply #55)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 10:23 AM

62. Yes, and she has yet to say one word about the other states

or this one. If it works in her favor anything goes. And I was there when they were playing this game in the 90s.

The fact is that she needs those people in those lines and she is doing very little to win them over. When a problem arises like this one she at least has to voice her objection.

This is for her own good - the "they don't have any place else to go" in the GE is not working anymore. And "the lessor of two evils" is even an emptier promise.

I do not think that Hillary is personally doing this except maybe when Bill and his bullhorn show up to interrupt voting but I think that her supporters maybe getting carried away in some precincts. It is hurting her.

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Response to tartan2 (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:50 AM

9. I was doing election integrity back in the 2000's elections ...

what we found:
1) When you vote at the polls with a regular ballot (not provisional), 100%
of the ballots were counted. Because if you spoiled your ballot, you could
immediately ask for another ballot.
Note: Does not mean it will be counted correctly, only that it will be counted.
2) When you vote absentee (or by mail), approximately 15% - 20% of the ballots
were not counted for one reason or another. In San Diego, it was 17%.
AND you'll never know if your ballot was uncounted!
Reasons for not counting:
- Forgot to sign the ballot
- Even if you signed it, the person checking the signature could say it didn't match.
- You were registered under a different name, then got married and never registered.
Note: This happened mostly to women who changed their name after marriage, then
changed their signature to match their new name, but not the same as the
registered name.
- Mailed or Received after the election date.
- Your ballot was spoiled so you checked the spoiled box on the envelope, but you never
received your new ballot in time to actually vote.
- Someone decided to check the spoiled box on your envelope along the way, without
your permission. (This would be election fraud, but it can happen if the spoiled box is
on the envelop where anyone can get at it. We pushed to have it placed inside the
envelope. Since I don't use absentee ballots, I don't know if this was accomplished).

For me, I'd rather go to the polls.

Also, one last note, it was rumored that when you applied for an absentee or mail-in ballot,
you would be immediately called for jury duty. Unproven of course, but the only time
I voted absentee, because I would actually be out of town on election day, I received a
jury duty notice within a couple of months. (Unscientific, of course).

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:45 PM

32. Thanks for work there and on this post, aggiesal.

This information is very relevant.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:51 AM

10. This is VOTER SUPPRESSION, plain and simple.

Whether the result of intention or incompetence, it is an OUTRAGE and is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

This issue should be PAGE ONE HEADLINES, with unceasing demands to do whatever is necessary to correct all such impediments that make it more difficult or impossible for citizens to exercise their voting rights in this ostensible democracy of ours.

WHAT is going to be done about this???

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:01 PM

26. We need a revolution of people demanding accountability and a new vote in AZ

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #26)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:46 PM

33. Yes.

Exactly right.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:52 AM

11. This demonstrates how people have messed with voting and deligitimized it.

It sounds like election fraud again. Make it hard to vote or impossible with long lines and inconvenient voting locations. Difficult to obtain voter ID credentials. Privatize the process so that individuals can change results of elections and we would never know for sure because there's no paper trail for recounts. Throwing people off of voter roles because their name is similar to a felon in another state (Florida under Jeb Bush). Electronic voting machines that won't let people vote for the person they choose, or privatized vote counting that gets diverted to another state, such as Ohio in 2012 when Karl Rove was so sure Romney was going to win. I knew Republicans were trying this B S, Democrats better not be doing it. We need to clean up our elections, many Jimmy Carter could help.

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Response to All in it together (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:56 PM

30. Delegitimization is the point.......nt

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Response to All in it together (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:55 PM

35. What an excellent summary.

It would be a good idea to act proactively to clean this up if possible and be prepared to scrutinise, document and sound alarms, beat drums and light bonfires if necessary should the main event, the GE, turn out as I think all here probably expect.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:58 AM

12. In 1998 Oregon passed vote by mail, and now all government elections are held by mail.

 

While Oregonians can still vote at a voting place -- the elections offices here have several voting booths available -- almost no one votes that way because of the ease, convenience of voting by mail.

Go Bernie!

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:12 AM

13. My gueses as to what went wrong in AZ

 


* Intentionally supplying precincts with outdated voter registration information that did not reflect recent voter affiliation changes.
* Intentionally reducing the number of polling locations by over 60%.

Sorry to all you folks who changed your voter affiliation to be able to vote for Bernie in the 2016 primary only to find that the old list supplied by the party to the precincts did not reflect this change, your party affiliation will no doubt be processed in time for the GE.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:29 AM

15. "Your party affiliation will no doubt be processed in time for the GE"

If you believe that I've got a bridge in West Texas to tell you about ...

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:28 PM

52. I didn't think you had to worry about party affiliation in a GE?

I thought it was only when the state has a closed primary...But then I live in a state that doesn't require we register by party so I'm not entirely familiar with how it works.

Though the Democrats should worry that if Arizona gets by with election fraud now, it will get by with it in November. And in November it won't be done to help the Democratic establishment candidate.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:55 AM

56. I don't think that's all

There's a video that's been posted a few times and has been making the rounds on Facebook (I can probably find it pretty easily if you haven't seen it already and want to) that shows a woman actually going into her county office and they say she submitted one registration for Democrat and then another one a month later back to independent. Except that she hasn't and when they show her the image of the submitted form, the signature is IDENTICAL (not similar, an exact copy)... seems faked

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:22 AM

14. This is totally voter suppression

 

even though those in Camp Weathervane call it "sore loser complex."
This is total suppression.
Notice that how, in AZ, the front runner won for both parties. It is only with large turnout, as is shown here, and other places, are things changed. Most of the folks who vote very early are poll workers, and insiders who know that things will be crowded, due to circumstances that have either been put in place by the powers that be, or recent events.
This has to be reported, and changed.

Another case of one of Dubya's legislations doing exactly the opposite of its title. In this case, it was the "Help Americans Vote Act."
AFAIC, this has not helped people vote, but helped the powers that be manipulate the vote.

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:31 AM

16. "Sore loser complex"

When you have to cheat to win every primary, starting with the coins in Iowa, something is very wrong.

Stay tuned for November.

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Response to TBF (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:57 AM

21. Flipping Coins Has Been Around For A Long Time

 

I still want to see the actual vote totals.

Ain't gonna happen.

That would be democratic.

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Response to Yallow (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:02 PM

27. I want to see the actual coins!

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:01 PM

36. Only with large turnout are things changed.

That's important.

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #36)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:39 PM

40. The lines were already pretty long, Ghost -

would've backed up into New Mexico had they been much longer. But shining the light on these b******s may help a bit.

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Response to TBF (Reply #40)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:46 PM

44. Who was in charge?

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #44)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:01 PM

47. Helen Purcell is claiming responsibility for the hit -

Twitter: @RecorderPurcell (just in case anyone would like to contact her)

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Response to RoccoR5955 (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 09:08 PM

49. HAVA. The opposite of its title, but I think it achieved its intent. nt

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:32 AM

17. voter suppression

 

not acceptable.

Hold them accountable

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:44 AM

18. Jimmy Carter monitors voting

 

In third world countries.

Why isn'the he in Arizona?

BTW, did you see the PM of Estonia on The Daily Show last night?

On line verifiable voting and taxes filed in 3 minutes.

Who's third world? WE ARE!

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:48 AM

19. "On line verifiable voting and taxes filed in 3 minutes"

I didn't see it but that sounds wonderful. In the "richest country on earth" we should be able to accomplish such things. And we would if we really were a democracy rather than an oligarchy.

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Response to TBF (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:58 AM

22. As Long As It Is 100000% Verifiable

 

Clicking on a box on the internet, trusting Rove's friends to tally my vote?

Only if I can see where it went.

Ask Don Siegelman about vote counting.

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Response to TBF (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:59 AM

23. The tax filing

 

Used to take 5 minutes.

They made improvements.

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:12 PM

28. Oregon votes by mail, no internet required or desired. All paper, automatic registration. No lines.

 

The only people who use an electronic device to vote are people with disabilities which do not allow them to fill the regular ballot. They can go to a nearby place to use a tablet or one will be brought to them. The tablet allows any number of control methods including breath. Once the voter completes that ballot a printed version just like the regular ballot is produced, which is then cast like all the others. The tablet retains nothing. It creates a paper ballot.

Works like a charm.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #28)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:04 PM

37. Does the voter, having voted, get a receipt? n/t

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:44 AM

24. A disgusting display of voter supression.

Abetted by the M$M.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:58 AM

25. The folks

who brought babies and toddlers are a huuuge part of Bernie's agenda. Kudos to them for coming out!

K&R

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #31)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:51 PM

34. You are in the Socialist Progressives Group

and we are talking about the destruction of our democracy.

Do you have anything on point to add or are you just slumming today?

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:32 PM

38. Snapshot of this thread I'm using to facebook

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #38)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 03:36 PM

39. I believe Helen is elected -

and she needs to go.

TY for sharing.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 04:11 PM

41. Bernie Sanders himself weighs in on Voter Suppression:

Bernie Sanders is just as mad as his supporters about the Arizona primary election process, which is being widely regarded as a total fiasco.

“We got an email last night from a woman who was waiting in line for five hours to vote. For five hours to vote,” Bernie said incredulously today at a press conference in San Diego.

He said there was no excuse for a failure of this magnitude.

“Whatever the cause of that problem is, people in the United States of America should not have to wait five hours in order to vote. We do not know how many thousands of people who wanted to vote yesterday in Arizona did not vote. We don’t know if they wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, whoever. We don’t know that.”

More here: http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-blasts-arizona-voting-disaster-calls-the-fiasco-a-disgrace/

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:38 PM

42. Bernie takes this to the convention... no coronation...

 

...for Her Inevitableness ...

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:42 PM

43. Petition to the U.S. Government to investigate Election Irregularities/Vote Suppression...

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Response to HeartoftheMidwest (Reply #43)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:58 PM

46. I just signed the one Bernie sent in an email -

he is pissed too.

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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:05 PM

45. I have lost all faith in our voting system.

Don't get me wrong, I'll go vote, but I'm pretty sure that it is a useless waste of time. Ever since the 1% discovered back in 2000 that they could cook the election, Representative Democracy in the US has been a hoax. We allow elections where no one can examine the actual computer programs used to run electronic voting machines, where we can use a credit card at the local 7/11 gas pump and get a receipt showing what I bought, but it is 'too difficult' to give us a paper copy of who we voted for. And the guy who cheats is the guy who wins, so he/she has no incentive whatsoever to investigate voting irregularities.

We're toast. We just haven't realized it yet.

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Response to Stonepounder (Reply #45)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:49 AM

58. That voting machine software code should be Public Access.

It should be viewable, open source, and LOCKABLE FOR ELECTION DAY.
Anyone can download a copy, run whatever mocks they want so they can watch it work in real-time. Uploads to the source server would be locked out so no changes, and locked out and tamper-proof for election day. It wouldn't be difficult to build, and by that I mean the coding students at your local community college could probably do it for a semester project. If it were open source, anyone can download it and look for problems...find one and you call in, report the problem and it gets fixed. Easy Peasy.
A million sets of eyes looking for problems and the problems WILL be found. But, that of course isn't useful for the Owners, is it?

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Response to TBF (Reply #48)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 01:03 AM

57. This is pretty damning, and yet she won't step down.

from your link:

county officials allocated one polling place for every 108,000 residents and said that Anglo communities had more polling sites per resident.

Voters waited in long lines to participate in Arizona's presidential preference election on Tuesday because of fewer polling sites this year in Maricopa County. County officials earlier this year said fewer sites would be more cost-effective while still accommodating projected voter turnout.

The Board of Supervisors approved reducing the number of polling sites in February on the advice of Purcell, even as the Republican and Democratic presidential primary races across the country were seeing large voter turnout. Despite that, Purcell said she still believed there would be more people voting by mail early than showing up at the polls.


Someone's head should roll. And that someone is Purcell. She needs to lose her job.

No mention in the article of the cases of switched party affiliation. So how many people had that happen to them?

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Response to passiveporcupine (Reply #57)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:52 AM

59. ..she won't step down.

Then she should be INDICTED.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #59)

Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:23 AM

60. She is elected and should be indicted -

Her quote:


"If democracy is worth fighting for, then it's true value should be measured at the ballot box!" Helen Purcell (Republican) was elected to the office of Maricopa County Recorder in November 1988; is now serving her 7th term and is only the second woman to hold this position since 1871. Born in Topeka, Kansas, she's been a Phoenix resident since 1964. http://recorder.maricopa.gov/


Has Hillary Clinton said anything about this spectacle yet? I haven't seen anything but if I've missed it I'd like to know how she views this behavior.



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Response to TBF (Original post)

Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:53 PM

53. when machines count hillary wins - when people show up and count sanders wins

 

???

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