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bif

(22,685 posts)
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:39 PM Jun 2021

Uh-oh! One of my paintings has gotten me into legal trouble.

I have a painting on Etsy called "Got Milkweed?" I just got an email from an attorney who represents the California Dairy Council telling me I have to change the name or face legal action. So my options are 1. I could change the name. 2. Ignore it and wait to see what happens. If it went to court, it could be some good PR. However it could also cost me a bundle.

What would you do?

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Uh-oh! One of my paintings has gotten me into legal trouble. (Original Post) bif Jun 2021 OP
I'd milk it as long as you can. underpants Jun 2021 #1
Winner! DEbluedude Jun 2021 #4
Change the name. It wouldn't be worth the hassle and expense Ocelot II Jun 2021 #2
Agreed, I recall a letter that said, "We have more lawyers than your town has people." n/t rzemanfl Jun 2021 #5
Trust me. They will win. You will suffer. Change the name. CurtEastPoint Jun 2021 #13
depends on if you have a lawyer in the family. mopinko Jun 2021 #3
Weird, sometimes they have had fun with the ripoffs soothsayer Jun 2021 #6
WTF ? dweller Jun 2021 #7
If I were in your shoes, I would change it. Blue Dawn Jun 2021 #8
Well the lawsuit might get you some pub Fullduplexxx Jun 2021 #9
Change it to "nondairy milkweed, the healthy choice" multigraincracker Jun 2021 #12
Are they going after the got milkweed t-shirt? NQAS Jun 2021 #10
Make another painting called "got milkshakedown" unblock Jun 2021 #11
Change it to rownesheck Jun 2021 #14
Or: "I planned to call this Got Milkweed but the California Dairy Association threatened to ratchiweenie Jun 2021 #15
Talk to a lawyer. It boils down to how much money do you want to spend vs how much they will ... marble falls Jun 2021 #16
I was thinking of changing it to: "God. Milkweed!" bif Jun 2021 #17
Have no idea about paintings. Am not an attorney. But song titles are Hoyt Jun 2021 #18
My experience is lunatica Jun 2021 #19
Ended up changing it to "God. Milkweed!" bif Jun 2021 #20

Ocelot II

(115,584 posts)
2. Change the name. It wouldn't be worth the hassle and expense
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:41 PM
Jun 2021

to fight with people who have more lawyers and money than you.

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
3. depends on if you have a lawyer in the family.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jun 2021

honestly, tho, even if they are a big entity, that phrase is someone's intellectual property.
change it.

dweller

(23,612 posts)
7. WTF ?
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:51 PM
Jun 2021

So if I took a picture of 2 school kids exchanging pennies, and called it
Got Milkmoney? I could be sued?

That’s nuts

✌🏻

Blue Dawn

(892 posts)
8. If I were in your shoes, I would change it.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 06:54 PM
Jun 2021

Avoid the hassle and expense of fighting it.

(My two cents' worth of advice.)


NQAS

(10,749 posts)
10. Are they going after the got milkweed t-shirt?
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 07:01 PM
Jun 2021

They’re being really stupid, but lawyers gotta eat.

Not worth the aggravation. Take out the “got.”

Reminds me of the joke that went around about 20+ years ago that bill gates was going to copyright the letter e and you could use it without paying him. Or something like that.



unblock

(52,116 posts)
11. Make another painting called "got milkshakedown"
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 07:04 PM
Jun 2021

Armchair lawyer here, but this seems to me like a blatant shakedown and a baseless legal claim.

First, it's clearly fair use.

Second, you're not trying to sell milk.

Third, a quick google shows a ton of merch with the phrase "got milkweed", so I'm not sure it isn't already in the public domain.

Trademarking a phrase generally doesn't prevent people in other industries from using it.


That said, it's no fun fighting a legal battle even if you're 100% in the right. It's usually better to avoid a fight if it doesn't really cost you much to do so.

Personally, I'd change the title slightly, then make another painting slamming them for the shakedown. The email is yours to use however you want.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
14. Change it to
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jun 2021

"Dickweed Lawyer With the California Dairy Council Threatened Me With a Lawsuit. Fuck You California Dairy Council".

Kind of a long name, but I like it.

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
15. Or: "I planned to call this Got Milkweed but the California Dairy Association threatened to
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 07:52 PM
Jun 2021

sue me." Also long but a good title none the less.

marble falls

(56,997 posts)
16. Talk to a lawyer. It boils down to how much money do you want to spend vs how much they will ...
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 08:27 PM
Jun 2021

... copyright laws say a holder has to defend their name.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. Have no idea about paintings. Am not an attorney. But song titles are
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:03 PM
Jun 2021

often the exactly the same, yet that is usually acceptable. Whatever, good luck. The prudent thing would probably be changing the name, but . . . . . .

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. My experience is
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jun 2021

that the artist always loses. I had some work that was stolen and used again, supposedly with my permission. There was nothing I could do about it, which is probably what a lawyer would tell you anyway.

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