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Related: About this forumStuck on Tchaikovsky's 6th
Truly one of the greats. That first movement...goodness. I finally figured out the "Grande Crise" passage toward the end of it thanks to the ever-so-slow pacing of Sergiu Celibidache, who people seem to either love (raises hand) or not. Simply put, the percussion is your heart pounding and the strings and winds are your head screaming. It can be pretty terrifying if you're feeling vulnerable. But it's heroic stuff, deeply touching, especially as the horns come in toward the end. With Celi, I find I can hear the constituent parts of movements more clearly and his sense of the dramatic can not be debated. The whole passage starts at 13:15; the head/heart dialogue runs from about 16:45 to 19:00:
A more conventional (and not inferior in the least) reading comes from one of the greatest living conductors Myung-whun Chung and the Seoul Philharmonic Orchestra, famous for the single tear that Chung sheds at the end of this live performance:
The 6th, famously named Pathetique, which is best translated as "passionate" from Russian, has been unfortunately called Tchaikovsky's suicide note because it's the last thing he ever wrote, not just for its themes but because he died just a week or so after its first live performance. Here's an awesome bit of writing on all that on all that from The Guardian's Tom Service:
"Lets get this clear: Tchaikovskys Pathétique Symphony is not a musical suicide note, its not a piece written by a composer who was dying, its not the product of a musician who was terminally depressed about either his compositional powers or his personal life, and its not the work of a man who could go no further, musically speaking. It shouldnt even be called the Pathétique, strictly speaking, with its associations of a particularly aestheticised kind of melancholy...Instead, the Sixth Symphony is a vindication of Tchaikovskys powers as a composer. It is the piece that he described many times in letters as the best thing I ever composed or shall compose, a work whose existence proved to him that he had found a way out of a symphonic impasse, which represented a return to the heights of his achievement as a composer.
"...this symphony is about a battle between a stubborn life-energy and an ultimately stronger force of oblivion that ends up in a terrifying exhaustion, but what makes the piece so powerful is that its about all of us, not just Tchaikovsky. And thats because of how Tchaikovsky makes the musical and symphonic drama of the piece work. So when youre listening to the performances below, hear instead how the cry of pain that is the climax of the first movement is a musical premonition of the inexorably descending scales of the last movement, and how the second movement makes its five-in-a-bar dance simultaneously sound like a crippled waltz and a memory of a genuinely sensual joy. Listen to how the March of the third movement creates a seething superficial motion that doesnt actually go anywhere, musically speaking, and whose final bars create one of the greatest, most thrilling, but most empty of victories in musical history, at the end of which audiences often clap helplessly, thinking they have arrived at the conventionally noisy end of a symphonic journey. But then were confronted with the devastating lament of the real finale, that Adagio lamentoso, which begins with a composite melody that is shattered among the whole string section (no single instrumental group plays the tune you actually hear, an amazing, pre-modernist idea), and which ends with those low, tolling heartbeats in the double-basses that at last expire into silence."
https://www.theguardian.com/music/tomserviceblog/2014/aug/26/symphony-guide-tchaikovsky-sixth-pathetique-tom-service
Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)right now.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I mean look at Rattle for example, and even Paavo Jarvi to a degree, whom I also admire.
And then the other not so great "standers on the box, " who flap around like a wounded vulture.
But Chung-- his intensity, his fire, all his energy is inside. Honest, humble, sincere, full of love and respect for the music, his players, all people...He has a very strong inner attention. He draws his players out. Opens the space for them to fill.
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)as much as he does. His humility and commitment to the art is unsurpassed.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I have heard him in Seoul, Tokyo, couple times in Europe..
I even got to sit in on a rehearsal of Tchaik Violin concerto and 4th Sym in Tokyo as I know several people in the Tokyo Philharmonic..
What a great memory..
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)What a pleasure to discuss him with you.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)The last of her tour doing all the Bach Sonatas and Partitas in one night !
It was a night I will bever forget.
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)I'm glad she's back. I have her recording of Bruch's concerto with Rudolf Kempe conducting that pretty much immobilized me the first time I heard it:
pangaia
(24,324 posts)And then there is their OTHER sister.
What a family....