Music Appreciation
Related: About this forumAndreas Frege (Campino, Die Toten Hosen's frontman) is 60 today.
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Lead singer of the very successful German band Die Toten Hosen, actor, author, and enough of a star in Germany that there are a lot of articles in German about his birthday -- but the Google translations were bad enough to make me wince, and the few I saw in English were either fragments of the new articles in German, or very old news. So I'm just going to link to a fairly good profile of Campino by a Canadian journalist 11 years ago -- https://rorymaclean.com/blog/on-campino/ -- and to a long thread about him and his band that has some more info: https://democraticunderground.com/10181664814
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Google Translate. It's awkward in places but not hopelessly confusing, like some translations I looked at but didn't want to take time to correct after copying and pasting.
Link to the translation:
https://www-ndr-de.translate.goog/kultur/musik/Campino-wird-60-Punkrock-bedeutet-nicht-nur-Vollgas-und-laut,campino270.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
I thought this quote from Campino about how his band has evolved from punk rock (while still calling themselves punk rockers) was interesting:
And I thought this was interesting as an explanation for the name of their current tour, Alles aus Liebe or Everything Out of Love:
That translation is awkward in places, too, but not as bad as some I've seen. Might grab my German-English dictionary later and see if I can fix the awkwardness. (EDITING, with an improved translation of the last sentence of that excerpt, though this is courtesy of using Google Translate for just that sentence, not my own translation: "At the end of the day, that's what these 40 years have been about." )
But I thought it was interesting to see Campino give credit to that actor, what he said at their first meeting, for the tour name.
I don't know exactly when Campino met Brandauer (who was nominated for an Oscar and won the Golden Globe for best supporting actor in Out of Africa), but Brandauer was impressed enough to cast the rocker as Mack the Knife in a 2006 stage production of Brecht's Threepenny Opera in Berlin in 2006:
https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/2006/03/23/mackys-back-in-town-rocker-to-play-lead-role/28468088007/
Campino, like David Bowie, is an attractive, charismatic singer people in the industry felt should be an actor. Unlike Bowie, who even studied mime at one time and also tried copying Anthony Newley (and later crafted onstage personas like Ziggy Stardust), Campino was always himself onstage (whether he was crowd surfing or climbing the scaffolding, both of which he used to do a lot).
I ran across some video of Bowie in Labyrinth the other day, video of him with that wild rockstar hair as the Goblin King, and between that and the proto-punk style of some of his best early music during his Ziggy/Aladdin Sane/Halloween Jack days (think of "Rebel Rebel" and "Jean Genie" and "Suffragette City" ), I suspect that if Bowie had headed to Berlin for a change of pace in the late '80s instead of the '70s, we'd've seen something from Bowie reminiscent of Die Toten Hosen's Clockwork Orange-based "Hier Kommt Alex." (See https://democraticunderground.com/103476487 .) But by the '80s Bowie was recording very commercial music like "Let's Dance" (not on my list of Bowie songs I most often listen to, despite SRV's guitar), which couldn't have been farther from that punk edginess he'd once had.
Bowie talking about punk rock in 1980:
Die Toten Hosen were much more politically outspoken and active than Bowie ever was. I don't know what they thought of Bowie. I'm guessing they'd probably heard of some statements Bowie got a lot of attention for in the 1970s:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/david-bowie-death-politics-213529/
I think there is a nostalgic nationalism in Bowiea sort of nostalgia for the utopian idea of Englishness, of Milton or Blake or Shelley. One of the things about Bowie thats interesting politically is this connection to the idea of Englishness, and this kind of whimsical nationalism that doesnt really make sense other than aesthetically. I think he confused fascism with nationalism.
Bowie did a concert at the Berlin Wall that got a lot of attention. Kudos to him for that.
But Die Toten Hosen gave an illegal concert in communist East Berlin:
https://www.factmag.com/2016/09/24/punk-priest-stasi-spy-east-berlin-mark-reeder/
Reeder and Die Toten Hosen travelled across the border in groups of three on different trains. East Berlin was like the hardest club in the world to get into. If we went in as a group theyd be suspicious, he says. I went last to check everyone got through. We met up in Rummelsburg, at the apartment of a couple who were helping us put on the gig. We sat there watching a West German TV feature about the difference between an established German rock band called BAP and a new punk band, Die Toten Hosen who were all sitting in their living room drinking ersatz coffee and eating homemade cheesecake. They couldnt believe it, the band were actually there in their flat and on West German telly.
They told only the few East German punks they knew about the gig the more people they invited, the more chance the authorities would find out. About forty people came. There were no photos, no evidence. At any moment the Stasi could have kicked in the door and arrested everyone. I was incredibly aware that if the gig was raided I would probably only serve a minimum of time in prison, if any, before being deported, but these kids would have had to live with the consequences. Their lives could be really shit from that point on, their chances of getting a job or going to university could be fucked.
I made sure they understood, because it was their lives that were at risk. I wasnt going to get shot or disappeared. They all knew it was totally illegal to have a western punk band playing unofficially in East Berlin. Theyd seen bands like Boney M come over and play big sanctioned concerts on TV, but nothing like this. Although we didnt realise then, it was actually the very first time a band from West Berlin had played an illegal gig there. I wanted to bring them this music because there was no question of them being allowed to leave to watch a gig in West Berlin. When it was finished I was in tears. It felt like wed done something historic.
According to the article, this illegal show "galvanised East Berlins fledgling punk scene."
And DTH are still speaking out constantly against the far right in Germany.
https://www.dw.com/en/german-couple-lauded-for-anti-nazi-stance/a-18681685