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Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:16 PM

cameras... suggestions please

I'm ready to start up again and will start with new camera... have used in progression, a Pentax, Canon 50D, Olympus OM-D and was going to now use my husband's Canon 7D but decided to sell it instead and start fresh....

I need suggestions... I will never be a serious professional photographer, just want to have fun taking really good photos...

Right now, I am thinking about the Canon M50 Mark II???

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Reply cameras... suggestions please (Original post)
markie Jun 22 OP
Ferrets are Cool Jun 22 #1
markie Jun 22 #3
elleng Jun 22 #2
markie Jun 22 #4
Grumpy Old Guy Jun 24 #19
usonian Jun 22 #5
markie Jun 23 #13
usonian Jun 23 #15
markie Jun 23 #16
usonian Jun 23 #17
AndyS Jun 23 #6
markie Jun 23 #12
TreasonousBastard Jun 23 #7
markie Jun 23 #10
Grumpy Old Guy Jun 24 #22
George McGovern Jun 23 #8
markie Jun 23 #9
George McGovern Jun 24 #18
Gato Moteado Jun 23 #11
markie Jun 23 #14
Grumpy Old Guy Jun 24 #20
usonian Jun 24 #21
Grumpy Old Guy Jun 24 #23
markie Jun 24 #24
Grumpy Old Guy Jun 24 #25
Mysterian Jun 25 #26

Response to markie (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:20 PM

1. That is way overkill for fun picture taking.

I suggest the Sony 6000. I used it exclusively for many years to make a living with. It's light, inexpensive and has a great sensor. You can spend a ton more, but that money would have diminishing returns.

Oops, I read your post wrong. I was thinking of a different Mark II. I stand by my recommendation though.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:32 PM

3. yes, seem to be about the same price

I want to check lenses as well... a good macro and zoom

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Response to markie (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:23 PM

2. Nikon CoolPix P900

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Response to elleng (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:38 PM

4. looks like the P950

has taken its place... I will check it out

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Response to markie (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:00 AM

19. I think they have a P1000 now.

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Response to markie (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 11:52 PM

5. It depends entirely on your needs!

Only speaking from my experience.

I have been using a Coolpix older than Ellen's for some 10 years, I lost track.
It has one lens that goes from very wide (24mm equivalent) to 1000mm equivalent, telephoto.
The 950 and 1000 go even beyond this.
KEY POINT. One lens. No lens changing. No dust. Distant and close-up (macro) performance are great for the 16 megapixels. Not 24, but "you get the shot". Right now. My hummingbird photos are with this cam.

I have newer stuff for my special needs, which probably aren't yours.

Fire tower some 5 miles away. Just cropped, not enlarged.

Hummingbird. This is cropped and enlarged some to show detail.


HTH.

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Response to usonian (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 07:37 PM

13. I really have no needs

only impulsive wants and I miss taking pictures... time to start again


never used a Nikon so I am a bit hesitant, but your photos make me want to check it out





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Response to markie (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:06 PM

15. The main point is that unless you are a camera nut, a "do it all" camera can be just right

without compromise.

First of all, beautiful close-up. My first lens (1970) was a macro lens.

This is general, not specific to the Nikon.

I *am* a camera nut, did optical engineering, but for many years, did everything with one lens on the one camera, and there was zero lag time changing lenses etc. This kind of cameras is called "point and shoot" for good reason. (you want to zoom, as well) I found this especially useful around the property in the snow, and one special trip to Yosemite when it snowed. Goodness, it's hard to get the camera out of the case, let alone change lenses. I had super ski-gloves on (and off and on ...)

You can't peel me away from one camera doing wide angle to extreme telephoto, and also outstanding close-ups.

The point is the simplicity, probably the only thing in my life that IS simple.

And TBH, unless you want the telephoto capability which I don't think anyone else has, then any point and shoot camera will perform very nicely. And probably for less money.

This is Coolpix-specific.
The 1000mm equivalent hooked me. Newer models are 2000 and 3000. -- I did astronomy as well
A long lens (over 400mm) on an interchangeable lens camera will cost a fortune.

(All focal lengths are equivalent compared to 24x36, or 35 mm)
Folks here will answer questions. If you can, borrow this or that make before buying.

Good luck.

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Response to usonian (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:19 PM

16. "The point is the simplicity"

https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/lenses/ef/telephoto-zoom/ef-100-400mm-f-4-5-5-6l-is-ii-usm/ef-100-400mm-f4-5-5-6l-is-ii-usm


this is one of the lenses I have... thinking of selling along with the 7D... maybe I need more time to consider... know I want more than a "point and shoot"

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Response to markie (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:40 PM

17. Wow.That's a beauty.

AFAICT, the Coolpix is the only way to get long telephoto performance under or around $1000 everything included.

And it never disappointed on any job, 16 megapixels worth. Stuff gets real pricey beyond 16 megapixels, and also beyond 200mm.

The long focal length will drive costs a lot.

Take your time. I didn't upgrade for years. Especially if you can borrow and try stuff. I hope you can, because paper decisions are tough to make.

Balance your need for "just take the picture" versus megapixels, how wide, how close and how "zoomy".

Good luck. I made my upgrade choice based on which system would give me the best 20mm lens, one I have always wanted but never got. It is very different from even a 24mm lens) I let the rest take care of itself. And at my place, it gets two mountain peaks into the same view, which is out of this world nice. And I have a rock wall (which I can't climb) that is ideal for 20mm wide angle views.

YMMV, of course.

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Response to markie (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:17 AM

6. Not knowing anything about you beyond the OP

it's hard to make an educated suggestion.

For casual shooting it hard to beat a 'bridge camera', one with a fixed lens that covers a wide range. They don't do everything to suit us 'pixel peepers' but it's everything in one package and are great for casual shooting.

You mentioned the M50 which is Canon's lightweight entry. Light, easy to carry and the best camera is the one you have with you. I'm biased to Olympus (now OM Systems) and an EM-10 with a 14-42 EZ is a very compact easy to use package. Add in a 40-150 and you've got a lot of range (28-300 full frame). Very inexpensive lenses with excellent glass. It also has easy to use scene settings that allow the camera to do all the work for most situations.

It just depends on you and what you plan for expansion. You can also save a bunch buying used and there's a lot of entry level interchangeable lens camers out there.

Bottom line is you can't buy a bad camera today.















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Response to AndyS (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 07:32 PM

12. "can't buy a bad camera today"

that seems to be what it looks like... thanks for the input



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Response to markie (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 04:55 AM

7. I tend toward Nikon but the Canon is a fine camara and will...

do what you want, except maybe 4K video.

Lens choice is the big thing, and Canon will give you everything you want. Mirrorless is a big deal for weight and makes up for a lot of things, although I'm not sure how Canon deals with legacy lenses. Nikon has an adaptor that lets you use almost everything they ever made.

Get whatever feels comfortable. Even though reviews say all sorts of good things about Sony, it's more about how you work wirh the camera.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 07:27 PM

10. not much interested in videos...

lenses are an issue I'm looking at... I have 4 that go with the 7D not sure I can use them with a new Canon... so much research... I always counted on my husband to do that part for me

thanks for the input

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Response to markie (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:18 PM

22. The EF-RF adapter works great with legacy lenses.

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Response to George McGovern (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 07:24 PM

9. had it

and just didn't seem to fall in love with it?? your photos are great! thanks for the input... still researching

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Response to markie (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 02:24 AM

18. Great close-up! I love that you've been posting your photos! You have a great eye!

Are you anywhere near a reputable camera shop? Might be an option, hands-on holding, professional advice. Thank you for your kind comment.

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Response to markie (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 07:31 PM

11. a lot of great suggestions in the thread so far....

....no matter which camera you choose, you will make great images. it would be good to know what your budget is because that will help you narrow things down.

for convenience, the bridge camera is a good suggestion. and, from what i've seen, the nikons (P900, P950 and P1000) are by far, the best.

this guy uses the P900 and P950 for most of his work and it's great(some of his shots were done with a full frame sony, though):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/aisse_gaertner/

this woman uses the P1000 and gets amazing images of wildlife:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/catherinegardnerphotography/

if you choose to get a camera with interchangeable lenses, i would suggest getting a mirrorless camera. the canon m50 is fine, but, IMHO, it's not as good as the other APS-C mirrorless bodies. sony and nikon have APS-C mirrorless cameras that are better, but the fuji APS-C cameras are amazing. give them a look.

olympus and lumix have micro 4/3 sensors (smaller than the APS-C sensor) and they have been leading the way in the mirrorless world for a while and you can't go wrong there, either.

if you have a camera store near you, have a look at all of these and see which ones feel the most comfortable to you and also which have the best user interface for you.



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Response to Gato Moteado (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 07:47 PM

14. the camera equipment

I'm selling has been tentatively evaluated at about $1300 (local and Adorama) and so I figure a body with that and then I can pick up a couple more lenses

I had the original Olympus mirrorless (still do, giving it to my daughter) Starting fresh with ??? I appreciate your input!


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Response to markie (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:14 AM

20. Don't get an M series Canon. Look into the new Canon APS-C.

Canon is probably discontinuing the M series.

Instead consider the new Canon APS-C mirrorless cameras that are just now being released, the R7 and R10. They are reasonably priced and will offer superb quality and fearures.They have a kit lens available that is equivalent to a 24mm-225mm, and the bodies will work with every Canon RF, EF and EF-S lens with an adapter.

Right now the R7 is backordered due to supply chain issues, but it will be worth the wait. I ordered an R7 for my wife to use. I think the R10 has arrived in stores. Mirrorless cameras are amazing.

One more point. I've used Canon bridge cameras with great success in the past. I heartily recommend the Canon SX70HS if you're you're leaning in that direction. I've posted many photos here that were taken with a Canon SX20HS and SX40HS.

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Response to markie (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:40 AM

21. Taking a guess at your "profile"

From your posts, you might be happy with what I have been taking outdoors lately:
A 24-200 zoom for "almost" everything, and
A really close-focusing lens.
All makes do this nicely.

Important question:

How much do you need a long telephoto? (200mm, 400mm, and beyond)

An interchangeable long tele costs way more than a "superzoom" system camera.
https://www.photoworkout.com/best-superzoom-cameras-for-birding/

And one is best for climbing rocks, either at home or in a park, in terms of weight and not having to change lenses.



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Response to markie (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:28 PM

23. One drawback to bridge cameras.

I believe that all the bridge cameras use a 1/2.3 inch image sensor. This is the smallest of all sensors except maybe for cellphones. This is why they come with incredible zoom lenses. However, the downside is that it would be more difficult to get a good sized print out of it. If all you're going to do is post your pics on the internet that is fine. However, if you like to print your photos to hang on your wall you may be happier with a crop sensor camera.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:14 PM

24. I so appreciate all the input

it's funny... I am such a slacker but love to take photos and play with them.... I always counted on my husband to know what I wanted, do the research for me and then buy me just what I needed... he gave me a hard time because I resisted reading the manual and spending the time necessary to do the right thing... I would say "I want to do this with my camera" he would tell me what to do and I could take great photos.... I had the "eye" for the photo and he had the tech skills... now without him I have to do it on my own...... whine, whine, poor me time for me to grow up I guess

No, I do not want a bridge camera. I want to learn and have control of my camera

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Response to markie (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 03:05 PM

25. That sounds like me and my wife.

My wife, Legger here on DU, loves photography. In fact, we met in her family's custom B&W photolab in 1983. She has a great eye, and has done well in the photo contests here. I've often helped her with her settings, but she is slowly getting the hang of doing it all herself. She is excited about the new Canon EOS R7 that we just ordered for her.

This is definitely a good place to learn the craft. There are lots of folks willing to help. Feel free to DM if you have more specific questions. It really isn't all that difficult. There are just a few basic rules to observe. Digital cameras make it so much easier.

Grumpy

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Response to markie (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:16 AM

26. I can recommend the Panasonic Lumix G7

It is lightweight, takes great pictures and has all the capabilities I need as a former photographer myself.

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