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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:40 PM Nov 2012

Shooting the Highest-Resolution Photo Ever Made of Machu Picchu

Shooting the Highest-Resolution Photo Ever Made of Machu Picchu
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/11/16/shooting-the-highest-resolution-photo-ever-created-of-machu-picchu/

Photographer Jeff Cremer recently captured the highest-resolution photo ever shot of Machu Picchu, the most popular tourist destination in Peru and one of the New 7 Wonders of the World. Unlike other gigapixel projects that we’ve shared here in the past, this one is very well documented, offering an interesting behind-the-scenes look at how these gargantuan images are made.

Here are a couple of videos by Cremer and Destin of Smarter Every Day, who accompanied Cremer on the trip ...



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Shooting the Highest-Resolution Photo Ever Made of Machu Picchu (Original Post) Coyotl Nov 2012 OP
Way cool. bluedigger Nov 2012 #1
They sent me here Coyotl Nov 2012 #2
LOL n/t bluedigger Nov 2012 #3
Wow! What a cool project! n/t Callalily Nov 2012 #4
A long time ago in a galaxy far away - when I was 28 - I was on Machu Picchu Mira Nov 2012 #5
Great story, Mira! bluedigger Nov 2012 #6
No - it was as if Mira Nov 2012 #7
You can see that part of the trail up Huayna Picchu in the image by zooming in. Coyotl Nov 2012 #9
I've reminisced a bit today about my trip to Peru so long ago. And you describe Mira Nov 2012 #10
I've been there four times Richard D Nov 2012 #12
The first of these two photos looks impossible! Absolutely astonishing. Judi Lynn Nov 2012 #15
And it is also a wonder how they built for perpetuity Coyotl Nov 2012 #16
It may be impossible. As in PhotoShopped. I can't find it on Huayna Picchu. Coyotl Dec 2012 #22
Where is Waldo? In this case, Where is this wall? Coyotl Dec 2012 #26
I did that stairway Richard D Nov 2012 #11
This is the one atop Huaynu Picchu Coyotl Nov 2012 #13
Oh. Didn't then Richard D Nov 2012 #14
I need accurate GPS readings for Machu Picchu. Please PM Coyotl Nov 2012 #17
Is GPS latitude and longitude? Richard D Dec 2012 #18
Yes, the geodetic coordinates using the global positioning system. What I seek is Coyotl Dec 2012 #19
I'm not at all familiar with this Richard D Dec 2012 #23
Might this help? Richard D Dec 2012 #24
Interesting to see how that datum propagated to a GPS site Coyotl Dec 2012 #25
So . . . Richard D Dec 2012 #27
Correct. Coyotl Dec 2012 #28
Oh well . . . Richard D Dec 2012 #29
You can help out if you take me with you n/t Mira Dec 2012 #30
Believe me . . . Richard D Dec 2012 #31
I like to use Panoramio images in Google Earth. A lot has changed there Coyotl Nov 2012 #8
WOW! Amazing! SouthernDonkey Dec 2012 #20
Now I'm going to have to borrow my friends Gigapan n/t Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #21
Just found a Huayna Picchu video Coyotl Dec 2012 #32
This transports me back Mira Dec 2012 #33

bluedigger

(17,437 posts)
1. Way cool.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:49 PM
Nov 2012

You might want to cross post to the Anthropology group - they will like this, too!

Mira

(22,685 posts)
5. A long time ago in a galaxy far away - when I was 28 - I was on Machu Picchu
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:40 PM
Nov 2012

I can vouch for that the high res photos look like the magnificence I saw then with my young eyes.
Upstairs in a closet I have my slides. Probably rotting. You can possibly imagine how many I took.

Other than the obvious of getting to roam there and explore and breathe deeply and learn about the Incas and the phenomenal walls they built with no mortar there are two things I want to tell you.

There is the other mountain, the one that juts up in the photo that starts the little posted video.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g294318-d548890/Machu-Picchu eru:Huayna.Picchu.Wayna.Picchu.html

I tried to climb it!
I could not make it. The Urubamba river at the deep down bottom was beckoning for me to fall into it. Some of the turns at the side of the mountain were about 24" wide, you had to grasp the mountain to make it around the bend into the unknown on the other side. I could not do it. They did not have any ropes or anything to help you then. Many fell to their death.

The other thing is I came up in the bus on a switch back road. I called it the Hiram Bingham expressway. Hiram was the explorer who found Machu Picchu in I think 1916.
I was so effin' scared going up I simply cannot describe it. So, instead of going back down on the bus I walked down the entire mountain through the jungle, carrying my suitcase.

I wish I were young again, for just a little while, to do some more really idiotic things like that.

bluedigger

(17,437 posts)
6. Great story, Mira!
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:55 PM
Nov 2012

Machu Picchu was always on my bucket list. The stairway part reminds me of a photo I've seen of a cantilevered stairway stuck on the side of a vertical wall.



This one?

Mira

(22,685 posts)
7. No - it was as if
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 11:29 AM
Nov 2012

the grass part where I had to walk and then go around a corner even more narrow than the depiction.
And to my side it would go straight down to the river.
To my right were no steps, just the stone side of the mountain.
I'm getting sick remembering it.
Could not even turn on that ledge, had to inch my way backwards.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
9. You can see that part of the trail up Huayna Picchu in the image by zooming in.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:54 PM
Nov 2012

I was looking it over and it is amazing, on the right side of the terraces near the top in particular. There are cliffs lower down too, with the river on the left instead.

This image is up atop Huaynu Picchu:

13° 9' 28.71" S 72° 32' 48.11" W

Can you find it in the image, Where's this Wall-do?

I like this trail, Inca Bridge:

13° 10' 23.60" S 72° 32' 42.77" W

In '88, we walked up in a rain at night, got into the ruins before first light, and photographed the mist rising before the tourists entered the images. In '70, we camped in the agricultural huts near the ruins, staying in for four days. It was a great place to just relax for a few days back then, with far fewer visitors daily.

To descend the mountain, both times I timed the trail run for the buses. You cross in front of them many times, and wave at them again and again as you run down and they slowly zig-zag.

Mira

(22,685 posts)
10. I've reminisced a bit today about my trip to Peru so long ago. And you describe
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:10 AM
Nov 2012

how I went down the mountain perfectly, except I did not time my descent with a bus going down. Just down until I got to cross the road, down, and repeat, over and over.
It's been a real pleasure to have someone know this feeling I had.
I think when the Thanksgiving has quieted down I'll pull out my slides.

 

Richard D

(10,018 posts)
12. I've been there four times
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:45 AM
Nov 2012

And have never had the huevos to climb Huaynu Picchu. I did climb Apu Machupicchu, which is the mountain on which the sanctuary is built. From the top Huaynu Picchu looks fairly small. A hard climb but not scary or dangerous. Quite amazing at the top.

This is on the trail up.



And close to or at the top

Judi Lynn

(164,122 posts)
15. The first of these two photos looks impossible! Absolutely astonishing.
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 04:57 PM
Nov 2012

It's a true wonder an entire group of people used these facilities regularly, that they could become so sure-footed, and focused in each step they took living there in order to avoid a complete leap into the abyss.

The staircase photo above looks like science fiction, simply doesn't seem posssible.

Hope many, MANY people will see this thread.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
16. And it is also a wonder how they built for perpetuity
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:05 PM
Nov 2012

None of today's, "Fuck that, let the next guy fix it" culture. These "ruins" survived four plus centuries of utter neglect and look at them still!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
22. It may be impossible. As in PhotoShopped. I can't find it on Huayna Picchu.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:42 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Looking in the Gigapixel image, I'm impressed by the upper terracing, especially the masonry of the uppermost terrace, and i even see a set of the protruding steps, but not this particular configuration. This image may not be actual, rather a combined spoof. Panoramio may reveal the truth if the three terraces together are found elsewhere. There is some awesome stonework up on that peak!

On edit, I found another photo:



But I still don't confirm in the 16 gigapixel image.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
26. Where is Waldo? In this case, Where is this wall?
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:56 PM
Dec 2012

I think you can see the rock protruding from the topmost of those three terraces in the 16 gigapixel version. Not the protruding rock:



The end walls not seen here, facing Machu Picchu, are seen from the camera below on their other side.
The lower terrace of the three has brush capping the end and the receding cliff below it.
Look about 9 terraces down from the topmost, all the way to the right. That's the wall-do we want.

On edit, back because I found more photos of same:





The following image has a high-res file here:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/46170404?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
13. This is the one atop Huaynu Picchu
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 09:16 AM
Nov 2012

according to the image placement in Google Earth. There are others like it in the ruins.

 

Richard D

(10,018 posts)
14. Oh. Didn't then
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

There's one that looks just like it in the main part of the sanctuary.
I'll be helping to lead another tour there in a few weeks. Pretty excited. It still hasn't gotten old. One of my favorite things is to watch people as they first enter the ruins. The looks on the faces are really precious.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
17. I need accurate GPS readings for Machu Picchu. Please PM
Mon Nov 26, 2012, 05:06 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:22 PM - Edit history (1)

if you know how and can do it.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
19. Yes, the geodetic coordinates using the global positioning system. What I seek is
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:02 AM
Dec 2012

Last edited Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:24 PM - Edit history (1)

someone with an actual instrument capable of 2m accuracy to do readings of specific points in the ruins, specific huacas like the Intihuatani. The Intihuatani is roped off, so two or more readings equidistant on opposite sides of the position would be required for averaging (or talking nice to the guard in Spanish). Good accuracy requires patience as the instrument takes time to acquire sufficient data. Are you at all familiar with this tasking?

My current Google Earth based coordinate for the Torreon is:
Machu Picchu Torreon
-72.545576 -13.164634

These Google Earth files open a lot of the placemarks determined using Google Earth and some GPS work of undetermined accuracy:



In Google Earth, turn on the Panoramio layer for tons of images to examine what the positions reference. Google earth has limitations in such vertical terrain due to oblique camera viewing. That oblique angle is seen in this image:


http://jqjacobs.net/archaeo/sites/index.html#africa

"When viewing geometric monuments with significant elevation, the oblique view of the camera is readily apparent—see the Washington Monument.

In this GE screen capture of Khufu's and Khafre's pyramids, note the seam between two images (bright on the right and darker on the left) and note that each pyramid has a unique angle of oblique view.

This points to the degree of accuracy, or I should say "inaccuracy" of the monument representations in this format. Online, an updated image has since replaced this one."


More placemarks of diverse Andes monuments with Panoramio images embedded here:


 

Richard D

(10,018 posts)
23. I'm not at all familiar with this
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:18 PM
Dec 2012

Can it be done with a cell phone? Not sure if there is connection there.
I'll be there in a couple weeks, leading a group. But I will have some free time if it doesn't take too much time to get a good measurement.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
25. Interesting to see how that datum propagated to a GPS site
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:36 PM
Dec 2012

because it is not a GPS reading, it is the Google Earth coordinate from the file linked above.

This is a complicated project at graduate level. It requires the correct instrument.

http://g.factoryoutletstore.com/details/2899/garmin-rino-120.html?cid=2967&chid=4272

What is WAAS?
http://www8.garmin.com/aboutGPS/waas.html

Some cameras now embed GPS data to geolocate the camera for each photo, called automatic geotagging.
http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-62stc-Handheld-Navigator/dp/B0055NQWZO/ref=sr_1_21?s=gps&ie=UTF8&qid=1354670974&sr=1-21

 

Richard D

(10,018 posts)
27. So . . .
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:23 PM
Dec 2012

. . I assume that the geo-tagging on my cell phone would not be accurate enough?

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
28. Correct.
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:08 PM
Dec 2012

We are talking a scientific instrument, for geodetic use, that produces and records lat/lon with waas-enabled accuracy of +/- 5m minimum, +/- 2-3m preferred result.

 

Richard D

(10,018 posts)
31. Believe me . . .
Wed Dec 5, 2012, 03:56 PM
Dec 2012

I'd love to take all my friends with me! Love, however doesn't pay for plane tickets, etc.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
8. I like to use Panoramio images in Google Earth. A lot has changed there
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 03:37 PM
Nov 2012

since I camped in the ruins in 1970 and revisited in 1988. Your photos may be very different than today. And they just keep working on the place.

Panoramio has innumerable great photos for popular ruins, a great tool for visually learning sites without going there, or to see how they have changed. Googling site:panoramio.com for images also provides coordinates to find places in Google Earth.

Google Earth placemarks with Panoramio images linked:
http://jqjacobs.net/andes/kml/andes_archaeology.kml

SouthernDonkey

(256 posts)
20. WOW! Amazing!
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:36 AM
Dec 2012

You guys and these photos give me chill bumps! It makes me want to go to Peru very badly now! I don't know if I could stand a bus ride back down myself. Thanks for posting!

Mira

(22,685 posts)
33. This transports me back
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:06 AM
Dec 2012

to my terror when I tried to climb it, and to the beauty of why I wanted to.
Having the mountain TOPS in my line of vision, and looking straight at them or down onto them is a vivid memory. So are the Urubamba river flowing down below, and the road leading up to Machu Picchu. I called it the Hiram Bingham expressway, named it for the guy who discovered it.
Thanks for this!

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