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HAB911

(10,206 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 06:37 PM Tuesday

Even at 1200mm I feel fortunate to get close enough

to capture these guys. Crows and Blue Jays are so skittish



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Even at 1200mm I feel fortunate to get close enough (Original Post) HAB911 Tuesday OP
Very nice portraits! HappyH Tuesday #1
thanks! HAB911 Wednesday #4
Wonderfully detailed, my dear HAB911! Marvelous portraits. Thank you! CaliforniaPeggy Tuesday #2
nice!! what rig were you using to get 1200mm of focal length? Gato Moteado Tuesday #3
Those are nice! HAB911 Wednesday #5
no shit? a 2x on the 180-600mm? wow.... Gato Moteado Wednesday #6
oh yeah HAB911 Yesterday #8
i like primes... Gato Moteado 19 hrs ago #11
That 600 is on my list too HAB911 8 hrs ago #12
i shot that froglet with the 50mm f/2.8 Z macro..... Gato Moteado 6 hrs ago #14
I used my 50 2.8 yesterday HAB911 6 hrs ago #15
Lemme see if I got this right HAB911 -- Unlike Tom Sawyer's friends, you George McGovern Wednesday #7
LOL, correct HAB911 Yesterday #9
Well, it worked well this time for sure. George McGovern Yesterday #10
The detail is so good alfredo 7 hrs ago #13

HappyH

(157 posts)
1. Very nice portraits!
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 07:35 PM
Tuesday

Crows have been visiting our yard for a couple of years now, a family group that nests nearby. They no longer immediately fly off if I walk out while they are visiting but they won't let me get within 100 feet.

HAB911

(10,206 posts)
4. thanks!
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 06:46 AM
Wednesday

I have this feeder set up to have a nice green background, not the white fence in this photo. But I couldn't get to that spot without the scaring it off. I really had to isolate the crow in post to bring down the stark white fence, otherwise there would be no detail in the wings. They just suck up the light so much.

Gato Moteado

(10,087 posts)
3. nice!! what rig were you using to get 1200mm of focal length?
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 09:08 PM
Tuesday

when i'm in chicago, i sit in the back room at my parents' house and get blue jays out the window with 300mm prime on a full frame nikon:









now that i've mastered 3D tracking on the Z8, hopefully i'll get better shots on the next trip. i'd love to find some crows.

HAB911

(10,206 posts)
5. Those are nice!
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 06:59 AM
Wednesday

I have only captured a handful of blue jays, mine too through a window where I have my bath and feeder set up. This is my favorite. It reminds me of a what I imagine a Velociraptor would look like. I'm using a Z8 as well, with the 180-600 + TC2 for the 1200mm. Because I shoot a lot of airplanes at 40k ft, especially against the moon, I have had that combo on the camera since I bought it. I keep a 28-300 on my Z6ii for other shots.



Gato Moteado

(10,087 posts)
6. no shit? a 2x on the 180-600mm? wow....
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 01:41 PM
Wednesday

....i didn't know you could even do that with a zoom lens. do you notice a lot of image quality loss with the 2x? what about AF speed and accuracy?

i'm using my old 300mm PF and 500mm PF f-mount lenses with the FTZii converter on the z8. i'm looking at picking up the 400mm f/4.5 Z lens soon.

HAB911

(10,206 posts)
8. oh yeah
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:06 AM
Yesterday

there is a marginal loss of quality, but for the feeder/bath photos I'm shooting through double pane glass which I bet causes most of the detail loss. AF is better than the 200-500 f mount on the z8 and with subject detection, I'm satisfied.

Using primes, I remember Andy telling someone, "we're too old for primes, we need to zoom", lol

Gato Moteado

(10,087 posts)
11. i like primes...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:08 PM
19 hrs ago

...i guess i still have that old school state of mind that primes are sharper. but i know, in recent years, zoom lens image quality rivals that of prime lenses, especially if you get the f/2.8 pro zooms. i don't have any nikon zooms but i bought the 200-600mm sony zoom lens for my A7Cii and it's sharp...and it's not pro glass, nor does it have a fixed aperture throughout the zoom range.

the nikon 400 f/4.5 is next on my list and then the 600 f/6.3

i miss andy.....i showed this shot of mine to peg the other day and said that i think andy would have liked it.

HAB911

(10,206 posts)
12. That 600 is on my list too
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 07:35 AM
8 hrs ago

I may just pop for it next year. Without a doubt primes are head and shoulders above any zooms!

That photo is amazing, just perfect composition

Gato Moteado

(10,087 posts)
14. i shot that froglet with the 50mm f/2.8 Z macro.....
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 09:22 AM
6 hrs ago

....it's not an S line lens but still it's quite sharp even when i stop down past f/16. i bought it instead of the 105 Z because it's better to get closer to your subject when using a flash+diffuser, but i'm getting hung up in foliage when moving in close to these little guys in the field. i'm gonna have to get the 105 Z or start using my old 105 micro f-mount to see if that works out better. here's another frog metamorph shot i got this year....this one is a freshly emerged milk frog that would easily fit on a dime with room to spare:

HAB911

(10,206 posts)
15. I used my 50 2.8 yesterday
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 09:40 AM
6 hrs ago

for the first time in a long time, been thinking about the 105 too, lol

George McGovern

(10,458 posts)
7. Lemme see if I got this right HAB911 -- Unlike Tom Sawyer's friends, you
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:55 PM
Wednesday

de-whitewashed the fence? Did a great job, the gray is much nicer for background. Very nice!

HAB911

(10,206 posts)
9. LOL, correct
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:11 AM
Yesterday

In PS camera raw, I did a "select subject", then invert the mask, which cuts out the subject, then just bring down the exposure on the background. Then "select subject", and bring up the exposure on the bird because the crows are light sinks, basically no detail they are so dark. There are many ways of doing the same thing, but I find this the easiest. Although, it doesn't always work well.

alfredo

(60,245 posts)
13. The detail is so good
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 08:32 AM
7 hrs ago

At first I thought it was monochrome, then I scrolled a bit.
The tone was beautiful

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