Photography
Related: About this forumAny recommendations for an actual camera for a 14 year old?
My daughter's shown an interest and has been taking all sorts of pictures with her cell phone.
Time for a camera.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)I got that for Christmas when I was 16.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)The latter require you bring the charger everywhere you go, or purchase extras.
The former are available anywhere and you can use rechargeable AA (or AAA) if you want.
I've had Canons but my favorite now is a basic Nikon model from Target, about $100.
rug
(82,333 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Mine is white. Nikon Coolpix S30 waterproof. I've used it snorkling, great results. I also have a GoPro Hero2 with underwater lens, but it's too wide angle.
The waterproof aspect might be good if she does a lot outdoors.
$89.00 at Target: http://www.target.com/p/nikon-coolpix-s31-10-1mp-waterproof-digital-camera-with-3x-optical-zoom/-/A-14438372#prodSlot=medium_1_2&term=nikon+coolpix
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/nikon-coolpix-s30-waterproof-camera-review-18889
rug
(82,333 posts)Thanks again!
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)And for smart phones you can get all sorts of apps that enhance the experience.
I bought my daughter a refurbed Nikon D3000 when she enrolled in a high school photography class, but she still winds up taking most of her pictures with her cell phone.
If you really want to go creative, get her a Holga, but I'm not sure many 14 yr olds would appreciate the gesture unless it was something you both wanted to explore together.
http://microsites.lomography.com/holga/
rug
(82,333 posts)With a camera I think she'll learn more about optics, lighting, balance and a lot more than just pointing.
I'm surprised somebody named Nikon recommends a Holga.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)And I love Nikons and have been using them for over 30 years. However when it comes to really learning photography, I think the more basic the camera is the more you'll learn from it. When you give a 14 yr old (or even an adult for that matter) a camera that has the capability of point and shoot, the tempation to do so vs operating it manually is too hard to resist.
rug
(82,333 posts)I'll ask her a few more questions about what it is she wants to do with it.
Stevenmarc
(4,483 posts)Certainly a dedicated camera allows for a more manual experience but learning about optics, lighting and balance and other photographic concepts such as composition and post processing aren't mutually exclusive to a dedicated camera.
This past summer I was invited to teach a photography class to a youth program and it didn't take long to realize that few of the kids had cameras but they all had cell phones so I came up with a class Mobile Photography Beyond the Selfie. It's honestly not that difficult to apply basic photographic theory to a mobile photography platform.
That said if you are going to go with a dedicated camera that you also go for an EyeFi card if the camera isn't wifi enabled, you really don't want to disconnect a 14 year old from the social media experience if you want to keep a dedicated camera in their hands.
rug
(82,333 posts)Stevenmarc
(4,483 posts)Is pretty plug and play, I've been using it for the past 3 years and I couldn't see myself working with a camera without wifi anymore. Actually my entry in this months contest was shot with a regular camera, the file was automatically sent to the phone and all the post processing was done on the phone and it was posted here from the phone.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Stevenmarc
(4,483 posts)I love plastic cameras but honestly I find 2 types of people use them, people who know what they're doing, I know a wedding photographer that shoots with a Holga, I know brave bride, the results are beautiful and the other group are hipsters who think they are suffering for their art because they they have given up the immediate gratification of Instagram. As much as I love Holgas they really aren't a starter camera.
Shocked you didn't say a Nikon FM10 as a film starter choice. Adorama Camera on EBay has factory refurbs for $139 with lens.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I think full manual cameras are great starters, but I'm just not so sure film is worth it anymore as a starter unless you really want to get creative like you can with the Holga. The problem with film is that it costs you every single time you release the shutter, so if all you are doing is creating images that can just as easily (much more so actually) be created with a digital camera, I'm not sure it's worth it for someone starting out anymore. The images made with a Holga are not so easily reproduced with a digital camera.
The problem I have with most digital cameras as tools for learning is many of them are clumsy when it comes to shooting full manual. Cameras that have a dedicated control for shutter speed, aperture, and ISO are generally at the higher end of the price spectrum and are geared towards pros and serious amateurs.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)However I have a couple of apps that I use with it all the time. One is a light meter app and the other is a DOF calculator. Both are very handy.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)It's pretty basic but does everything I need it to do. I use it just to give me a rough idea of what the lighting situation is. It's free with a donation requested.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Stevenmarc
(4,483 posts)Apps and there isn't a huge amount of difference although the Luxi clip for 29.95 does make a difference.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)D5100, with Nikon 18-70mm, a tamron 70-300 mm plus macro Tamron lens a Rokinon fish eye lens, a tamron doubler and proline tripod, I would be willing to part with for 2000 dollars.
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alfredo
(60,071 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)small sensor cameras that can fit in pocket/bag.
http://www.dpreview.com/products/ricoh/compacts/ricoh_grdigital4 comes in white too. Ricoh is big in Asia - Loyal following - Holds value.
http://www.dpreview.com/products/panasonic/compacts/panasonic_dmclf1 Panasonic makes solid point and shoot cameras. Leica branded lens. Panasonic has always had good face recognition in their cameras. Kids take photos of other kids.
Look at the Nikon V1 too. Expensive
Sony RX100 is excellent, but not cheap.
Sony Cyber-shot HX50V Nice camera, highly rated.
rug
(82,333 posts)We ended up getting a Samsung WB25OF with WIFI.