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Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
Tue May 15, 2012, 11:56 AM May 2012

Northwest Passage, 2011

I found these photos of a guy that took a Piper Cub (airplane) on a 30 day excursion across the western US. For those who don't know what a Piper Cub is, it is a pretty interesting aircraft. They were built back in the 40's as an everyman's aircraft. They were relatively cheap to buy. The engine they came with had anywhere from 40 hp to 75 hp (a Toyota Yaris has a 106 hp engine). Needless to say, it's a very underpowered airplane which makes this trip all the more interesting. The higher you go in an airplane, the less performance you have. The highest this aircraft can go is around 9,000' above sea level. Out in the west, mountain ranges of 10,000' and higher are quite common, which means you have to find mountain passes to cross at lower altitudes in an aircraft like this.

http://www.vintageflying.com/vintageflying%20photos%202011.htm

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Northwest Passage, 2011 (Original Post) Major Nikon May 2012 OP
Thanks for the info NV Whino May 2012 #1
Check out the ercoupe in a couple of the photos Major Nikon May 2012 #2
I saw that NV Whino May 2012 #3
I flew a Cub J-3! flamin lib May 2012 #4
I have a buddy that has one Major Nikon May 2012 #5
I flew this Piper Clipper. bluedigger May 2012 #6
I have a few hours in shortwing Pipers Major Nikon May 2012 #7
I'm kind of proud of learning to fly in a tail dragger. bluedigger May 2012 #8
It's more expensive to insure a tail dragger for primary instruction Major Nikon May 2012 #9
Most people don't buy their plane first. bluedigger May 2012 #10
Great pics, thanks. n/t trusty elf May 2012 #11

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
1. Thanks for the info
Tue May 15, 2012, 12:02 PM
May 2012

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Maybe one could put wings on a Yaris and do the same thing.

Those are great photos, and what a great experience.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
2. Check out the ercoupe in a couple of the photos
Tue May 15, 2012, 05:11 PM
May 2012

It's almost like a Yaris with wings. It was made to be extremely easy to fly, almost like a car. It has no rudder pedals, can't stall or spin, and even had a steering wheel that provided directional control in the air and on the ground.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
4. I flew a Cub J-3!
Wed May 16, 2012, 12:20 PM
May 2012

Takes off at 30 mph and cruising speed was a whopping 60! Couldn't keep up with highway traffic but what a blast to fly.

Had an engine quit and my eldest brother was able to reach out the window and spin the prop to re-start it (no electric start on the 65 hp version).

On a windy day you could tie it to a fence post and fly it like a kite.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
5. I have a buddy that has one
Wed May 16, 2012, 01:31 PM
May 2012

I've never flown one solo, but I can imagine it's a lot more fun than flying one with two grown men inside. He always says, take off at 50mph, cruise at 50mph, land at 50mph. Somehow I doubt those numbers, but it sounds good.

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
6. I flew this Piper Clipper.
Wed May 16, 2012, 02:41 PM
May 2012


I learned to fly and did my first (and last) solo in this 1949 PA-16 Piper Clipper almost thirty years ago. It was basically a wide Cub that (theoretically) could carry four people. In reality the back seat was only good for an overnight bag, as it had the same little engine as the Cub. Woefully underpowered, with the glide ratio of a brick.

The pictures make me miss flying.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
7. I have a few hours in shortwing Pipers
Wed May 16, 2012, 02:56 PM
May 2012

For just around for fun, it's hard to beat them. You could fly them backwards in a strong headwind and land them on a postage stamp. Recently I saw a Tri-Pacer in decent shape and flyable condition selling for $10,000. I almost bought it for just something to put around locally.

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
8. I'm kind of proud of learning to fly in a tail dragger.
Wed May 16, 2012, 09:43 PM
May 2012

We must be a vanishing breed.

My flight instructor had to take me down to a grass field to solo. The asphalt was too damn fast for landing.

The plane was still registered last time I checked, but had been repainted a lovely battleship gray.

We paid $7,000 for it in 1983. $10,000 sounds like a sweet deal for a Tri Pacer, if it has any avionics. All we had was a radio.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
9. It's more expensive to insure a tail dragger for primary instruction
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:35 AM
May 2012

That's why you don't see people getting their tickets in one these days.

bluedigger

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10. Most people don't buy their plane first.
Thu May 17, 2012, 12:52 AM
May 2012

My ex had her glider licence at 14 and pilot's licence at 16. I don't remember anything about the insurance - she dealt with it.

That plane would probably be uninsurable for instruction today - it only had ground brakes on one side - the instructor was SOL. It had a lot of quirks - like a single wing tank.

They revised (improved) the design pretty quickly with the other models, as you know.

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