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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:28 AM Nov 2020

So, Gato Moteado and I have been having a PM conversation about growth as an artisan and

photographer. With that conversation in mind I've taken the liberty of downloading one of his images and making a small correction to it. There's not much to pick at in his work but during my classwork in Portrait photography I was taught, no hammered, that there should be only one apparent light source and hence only one catchlight in the subject's eyes and there must be a catchlight. It's a small thing and most people don't notice but it was guaranteed to earn a re-shoot on any classwork.

Below is what I'm talking about.



On the right is the original and in it the reflections of both the main light and the fill light can be seen in the frog's eye. On the left I painted over the fill light reflection in Post. It's a tiny thing and everything else is just about as perfect as anyone could ask; a strong diagonal composition of the perch, great placement of the frog and technically impeccable. It's the kind of composition that flows so naturally that it's not apparent that he did it intentionally.

It's the small things that help us grow past whatever plateau of skill we achieve and I look forward to Gato's critique on my work when I get around to shooting something new which I hope to do this week.

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So, Gato Moteado and I have been having a PM conversation about growth as an artisan and (Original Post) flamin lib Nov 2020 OP
that definitely makes it look much better! Gato Moteado Nov 2020 #1
I have two issues I constantly deal with. I crop way too tight. Probably from the days of trying flamin lib Nov 2020 #2
believe me, i am continually flying off the rails in post Gato Moteado Nov 2020 #3
You guys teach me SO much about composition.....THANK YOU mitch96 Nov 2020 #4
There are 'rules' of composition and they help a lot flamin lib Nov 2020 #5
Fascinating work! I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2020 #6
It really is all about the little things. flamin lib Nov 2020 #7

Gato Moteado

(9,853 posts)
1. that definitely makes it look much better!
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:43 AM
Nov 2020

i had already removed several annoying hot spots from the frog's face and other areas and i was afraid to go too much further, but that makes a huge difference. i need to remember to watch for catchlights and move flashes around to avoid that problem while shooting.

thank you!

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
2. I have two issues I constantly deal with. I crop way too tight. Probably from the days of trying
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:13 AM
Nov 2020

to pull 16x20s off 35mm K64 and TriX. Today it's easy to pull that size from a 5meg point and shoot. The other is that I can't stop messing with it in Post. I keep 'improving it' until it's too noisy to upload

Those are the things I'm aware of, the rest I need to have pointed out to me.

mitch96

(13,890 posts)
4. You guys teach me SO much about composition.....THANK YOU
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 12:16 PM
Nov 2020

When I was a kid I asked a painter friend of mine how does she compose a painting and how I could use it to compose a photo. She said the easiest thing to do is to throw some sort of angled line to a point. That tid bit served me well...YMMV
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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
5. There are 'rules' of composition and they help a lot
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 12:18 PM
Nov 2020

but the key to real creativity is to figure out when the throw all the rules out . . .

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,583 posts)
6. Fascinating work! I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 01:16 PM
Nov 2020

It's a TINY detail, but it does make the photo better.

Who knew?

Thank you.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
7. It really is all about the little things.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

If you do enough little things it makes a big difference. Trim a dry leaf, move a branch or add a reflector. Like your moon pictures benefit from cool still air, every little thing enhances the things we see and share.

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