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TexasTowelie

(112,060 posts)
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 04:03 AM Oct 2017

California Deputies Hurt in Las Vegas Massacre Are Denied Workers' Comp

A group of Southern California law enforcement officers who rushed to save lives during a gunman's deadly rampage in Las Vegas returned home wounded but alive.

Yet, while they were hailed for their heroic efforts, there is one benefit they won't be afforded as they recover physically and psychologically from the Oct. 1 attack: workers' compensation.

Officials in Orange County on Monday denied compensation claims to four off-duty sheriff's deputies who were attending the outdoor music festival when it turned into a killing field.

The reason for the denial hinges on a state labor code, which says benefits can only be given to officers acting in "protection or preservation of life or property" specifically within the state of California.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/california-deputies-hurt-las-vegas-massacre-denied-workers-comp-n814376

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California Deputies Hurt in Las Vegas Massacre Are Denied Workers' Comp (Original Post) TexasTowelie Oct 2017 OP
Tough technicality ghostsinthemachine Oct 2017 #1
Unbelievable! chillfactor Oct 2017 #2
That's very unfortunate ... but Workers Compensation is for people hurt on the job ... mr_lebowski Oct 2017 #3
FWIW, I have a pretty extensive background in WC insurance TexasTowelie Oct 2017 #5
I've never understood people that do not take DI when it's offered. Lochloosa Oct 2017 #7
One could make the argument LEO's are always on duty Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #11
The guy who did it to them will pay for it lostnfound Oct 2017 #4
Trump: "Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored." keithbvadu2 Oct 2017 #6
California fishermen got workers comp for VD they caught in an Ecuadorian whore house Cicada Oct 2017 #8
Definitely a work-related injury TexasTowelie Oct 2017 #9
I think there's a song about that... Nitram Oct 2017 #10

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
2. Unbelievable!
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 04:33 AM
Oct 2017

Hopefully Governor Brown can correct this error in judgment by Orange County officials. These men risked their lives..only to be denied compensation by a bunch bureaucratic fools!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. That's very unfortunate ... but Workers Compensation is for people hurt on the job ...
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 05:48 AM
Oct 2017

Not to sound unappreciative of their sacrifice and heroism, regardless of the State in which this occurred, "Off-Duty Police Officers" tells you all you need to know ... if you understand how 'Workers Comp' ... works.

Pretty sure that nobody gets that benefit ... EVER ... unless they're hurt while 'on the clock' .. or maybe if injury happened at an unpaid work-related gathering in some rare instances if attendance was mandated even w/o pay.

Sucks, but this is 'how WC works'. For everyone, everywhere.

Hopefully if any are hurt severely they'll be able to get some kind of Disability.

Maybe a GoFundMe could raise some funds to help these brave souls out ...

TexasTowelie

(112,060 posts)
5. FWIW, I have a pretty extensive background in WC insurance
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 06:17 AM
Oct 2017

since I use to code risk cards when I was with the insurance department and then filed aggregate financial data when I worked in industry. I was able to gain some familiarity with the underwriting and claims process.

I agree that the board didn't have any other choice but to deny the claims since they weren't on the clock and because of the jurisdictional issues. Hopefully the officers decided to opt-in on disability insurance or at least carried sufficient leave time that they still have income.

Lochloosa

(16,061 posts)
7. I've never understood people that do not take DI when it's offered.
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 06:48 AM
Oct 2017

Saved my ass a few times.

It's usually very inexpensive.

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
11. One could make the argument LEO's are always on duty
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 01:50 PM
Oct 2017

And that pesky Peace Officer Oath of Office for the State of California affords a little latitude

I, ___________________________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign and domestic.....

lostnfound

(16,169 posts)
4. The guy who did it to them will pay for it
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 05:56 AM
Oct 2017

All they have to do is sue him, right? That's the recourse for harm that is suffered in our society, right?

No? Okay then, maybe the cops have insurance just for being human. Or for being in Las Vegas?

Who could gave predicted it? Completely unforeseen, unprecedented.

Very sad that no one is held accountable.

Maybe we should start counting these as acts of God.

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
6. Trump: "Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored."
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 06:39 AM
Oct 2017

"I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end," he said. "Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/republican-convention-highlights-day-four/index.html

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
8. California fishermen got workers comp for VD they caught in an Ecuadorian whore house
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 08:50 AM
Oct 2017

The ruling was that going to a whore house in Ecuador on a fishing trip is just part of a sailor’s job. Maybe California changed their law after the publicity from the whore house case.

TexasTowelie

(112,060 posts)
9. Definitely a work-related injury
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 09:05 AM
Oct 2017

for the whore house workers. Not too sure about the fishermen though.

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