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snowybirdie

(5,222 posts)
1. With all those dang
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 06:10 PM
Jan 2018

illegals draining the state's money for welfare and education, how can that be? That's what the internet tells me, anyway

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
2. can the west coast just become one big state? we can call it
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jan 2018

Califorington...or....Cascadia, which is already in the works ( but without the secession).

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
13. Oregon hates us Californians
Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:01 PM
Feb 2018

Seriously, you do not want to drive around Portland with CA plates. Your car will be vandalized. Don't even tell anyone you are from CA.

tirebiter

(2,535 posts)
3. I take the conservative description of California with a laugh of relief.
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jan 2018

People and businesses leaving? Not fast enough says I

Every time there's a song about California we get a new flood of immigrants seeking refuge from red states. Hey, it sucks here. Really it does.

We are just fine as 3 states. Oregon and Washington have their own character, individually. Beside we would lose 4 senators.

lostnfound

(16,169 posts)
9. How about 44 senators instead of 2? Twenty two states add up to same population
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 08:23 AM
Jan 2018

Smallest 22 states add up to equal California population.
The 39 million people living in California get 2 Senators, while the 39 million people living in the smallest 22 states get 44 Senators.

Explains quite a lot about the condition of this country. There was a purpose to the bicameral legislature; it has become two skewed against not merely regions but against modern civilization itself.

Yes, I know the senate is the more “moderate” branch but there’s more to the story than that.

marked50

(1,366 posts)
7. Not trying to stop anyones parade, but
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 09:12 PM
Jan 2018

the homeless situation in southern California is something that probably hasn't been seen since the Grapes of Wrath Days. There is some sort of mismatch here- booming economy but there is a subset of people who aren't benefiting.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
8. That is due to the high cost of living...way too high!
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 11:16 PM
Jan 2018

A 550 sq ft apt in San Diego that isn't even on the beach is $1,500 a month! Gas is $3.35 for med. unleaded and the list goes on. A person has to work two jobs if he wants to raise a family. But it is that way in a lot of cities all over the country. What we save in heating our homes and not having to deal with bad weather doesn't go far. After moving from the East Coast I always said I would rather be homeless and not freezing than homeless and freezing. It all depends on how you look at it and what your personal preferences and priorities are I guess.

marked50

(1,366 posts)
10. I agree that CA has shown us that a great and booming economy and social improvements
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:31 AM
Jan 2018

can happen under Democratic control and that the GOP may become extinct there. It can most certainly explain the increases in homelessness-esp as a desirable place to be. Thanks for adding that perspective.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
12. That, and
Sat Feb 10, 2018, 12:54 AM
Feb 2018

there's the situation of people who are from out of state having a better shot at going to our universities than native Californians, and people buying up real estate who don't even live here full-time.

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