Anyone thinking of leaving?

[Auggie]

Is today an anomaly or portent?

Is it time to go while the going's good?

The weather extremes are just going to get more severe.

[Mr.Bill]

1. If I could have afforded to do it,

I would have left this country when Trump was elected.

[Auggie]

5. I'm referring to California

[Mr.Bill]

8. I can't think of anywhere in the USA as affordable as where

I'm at now (not all of California is expensive) that isn't subject to some sort of natural disaster or severe weather.

[Moostache]

2. As soon as you find Planet B, I am going...until then though, we're all FUBAR!

There is nowhere on Earth that people can mass migrate to that could A) provide for them all or B) stem the rising tides, changing winds and weather patterns or slow the devastation to anything but a full speed gallop at this point.

Besides, with our currently worthless USA visas and passports, there is no real option short of becoming full-on refugees and sailing back to Europe or Asia at this point...

[Sedona]

3. I'm a true blue Realtor in Atlanta

In box me. Its lovely here today. I left LA in 2016. I can help you help turn Georgia blue

[Auggie]

7. Hate bugs and humidity

Georgia will experience weather extremes too

[Sedona]

11. Try Sedona, no bugs, no humidity

my true blue daughter is a Realtor there. Turn Arizona blue.

[Adsos Letter]

4. We're moving from the Bay Area to eastern SoCal next year.

I don't think it will be much better.

I'm also pretty concerned about what the state's fiscal situation is going to bring in the future.

Just heard KGO say that the Dolan Fire (Monterey County, 95,000+ acres) was arson.

[Auggie]

6. Arson!

Shit

[Adsos Letter]

14. Yeah.

That should be a very, very long prison sentence.

[procon]

16. On going earthquake activity near Ridgecrest and

China Lake area if that's where you're headed. Nothing big, but maybe a portent of things to come.

[Adsos Letter]

20. That is my greatest foreboding, statewide, at this point.

The San Andreas fault has yet to weigh in. And, hopefully, won't.

We are looking in a nice part of Redlands. We've lived in this house 30 years, and we've gotten everything just the way we like it, but the draw of the grand-babies is strong with my wife.

And if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

[LakeArenal]

9. Costa Rica is the place you oughta be.

It’s great. We moved a year ago and feel we got here just in time.

[Mike Nelson]

10. Not...

... the state, but staying away from fire areas. I like a lot of trees and stuff, but maybe not so close...

Also, it seems like other places are going to get climate change. Tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, fires...

[Auggie]

18. There's the Pacific Northwest ...

western Oregon and Washington. Earthquakes are few and far between. They're much less a concern than hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and wildfire.

[Mike Nelson]

21. Oh, I like those areas...

... but I would be so far from my SoCal friends.

[femmedem]

12. I would if I lived there and if it were financially possible.

For all its beauty, I think that California is one of the first places in our country to become borderline uninhabitable.

[secondwind]

13. We left San Francisco in June, and are living in the Caribbean now.

Don’t miss it one bit.

[Adsos Letter]

15. We have friends who have lived here (NorCal) most of their lives...

...but they're moving to Jamaica next year.

[Auggie]

17. I've been watching Caribbean Life on HGTV

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Reality show about Americans (mostly) who move there. Very tempting.

[Demovictory9]

22. I love that show and bahamas life, island life

Mexican life..all versions of house hunters except episodes that feature typical mcmansions

[dhill926]

25. same here.......

were it not for Covid, we'd be living in Key West right now. We both crave warm water, and the Pacific is COLD. 2 more dem votes as well, but alas, not to be. Probably for a year or two at least...

[dhill926]

19. mind sharing where...

been on our radar for a while...thx.

[Demovictory9]

23. No

I love california

[msdogi]

24. Just had this conversation

We're 60 miles north of SF. This is the fourth year in a row of fire terror, 2017 we were evacuated for 3 weeks. Now it's high alert, go bags packed.
We all live in rural settings and so far, have been very lucky.
Climate change is having a devastating effect on many parts of the country. While previous years fire have resulted from human activity or negligence by utility companies, most of these fires are the result of lightning, and several are in areas of 80-90 percent dead trees after the long drought and voracious beetles. And a couple of them are arson, or stupidity.
All of us at socially distanced lunch today agreed there is no where else we would want to live. Everywhere has something, hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, locusts, republicans.
Most of the time it is paradise here and we intend to stay as long as we can. We have to believe we will be able to right at least part of the horrific damage we have done to our planet, and we can find a balance with nature.
Yes it is a very scary dark red outside, but that is keeping the sun from heating things up and that is helping fight the nightmare we have going on in our state right now.
Big step will be getting Democrats in charge of as much of the government as possible, starting at the top. We can do this.

[Auggie]

29. Thanks for sharing

No one wants to panic but its impossible to know what's ahead. August lightning is not new here, but the intensity we experienced was. That's why I ask if it's time to go while the going is good -- move to parts of the U.S. where weather patterns might be more stable or predictable and before property becomes too expensive. Democrats may be able to help us prepare better for calamities and aid in faster recovery but they can't reverse climate change.

[ailsagirl]

36. Remember, the repukes insist there is no such thing as global warming

[ihas2stinkyfeet]

26. thank ja my brother is up in the hills.

he lives in placerville, but he just completed a par-olympics training camp up in tahoe. since it is for winter sports, he can hide up there if it gets bad by him.

but i dont think it would stick around. honestly never liked cali. been there many times.
i'm very happy in chicago. not much here in the way of natural disasters. and the winter cold means we dont have poisonous snakes or giant bugs. worth the heat bills.

[chia]

27. California born and raised, not going anywhere.

[SophieJean]

28. Weather extremes are not going to be isolated to California

or the west coast. We were thinking about moving from the Bay area to Mount Shasta, but now aren't sure. However, I get tired of all the California bashing I've heard over the years. This is about climate change, and no part of the world will be spared from the impact.

[Auggie]

30. True, though California's fire events are being exacerbated by those extremes

Impact in other parts of the U.S. may not be so severe. That's why I ask if it's time to leave while its still affordable for most of us to do so. A mass exodus from the state will affect property values in those other places.

[hunter]

31. My parents left, two of my siblings left, one of our children has left...

... I think my wife and I will stick around here a little longer.

Our extended family is very close, I think it has made leaving much easier for those who have left knowing they have family here in California to return to if things don't work out.

It's true that my wife and I might have had much less, um, interesting lives if we'd run off to Canada when we were young, and we could have, but we didn't.

It amuses me to drive past the remaining homes of my great grandparents and my great great grandparents in San Francisco, even though my great grandma sold them long ago. But she did not leave California.

My wife is about 25% native to the American West, so she's got roots stretching back thousands of years.

My last immigrant ancestor was a mail order bride to Salt Lake City. She didn't like sharing a husband so she caught the fancy of a monogamous guy who was passing through town and rode off with him. My great grandparents were all Wild West and San Francisco was always The City to them.

My ancestors didn't cross the Atlantic for any glorious opportunity, they left because their homelands had turned to shit.

I've always been aware the U.S.A. could turn to shit and keep good walking shoes beside my bed.

[Auggie]

32. Great story. Thanks for sharing.

[ailsagirl]

33. I hate to be a downer but...

Global warming affects the entire earth, so there's no running away.

Why bother?

[Auggie]

34. Because extremes will vary depending on region

Given the choice, would you rather live through months of wildfire or rain? Drought or freezing temperature? We have a choice to reduce the severity of climate change based on where we choose to live, but those options will dwindle once people begin mass migration. That why I ask if it’s time to go while the going is good.

[ailsagirl]

35. Thanks for clarifying

I'm feeling pretty discouraged these days-- you'll have to excuse me.