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Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:30 PM

Anyone thinking of leaving?

Is today an anomaly or portent?

Is it time to go while the going's good?

The weather extremes are just going to get more severe.

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Reply Anyone thinking of leaving? (Original post)
Auggie Sep 9 OP
Mr.Bill Sep 9 #1
Auggie Sep 9 #5
Mr.Bill Sep 9 #8
Moostache Sep 9 #2
Sedona Sep 9 #3
Auggie Sep 9 #7
Sedona Sep 9 #11
Adsos Letter Sep 9 #4
Auggie Sep 9 #6
Adsos Letter Sep 9 #14
procon Sep 9 #16
Adsos Letter Sep 9 #20
LakeArenal Sep 9 #9
Mike Nelson Sep 9 #10
Auggie Sep 9 #18
Mike Nelson Sep 9 #21
femmedem Sep 9 #12
secondwind Sep 9 #13
Adsos Letter Sep 9 #15
Auggie Sep 9 #17
Demovictory9 Sep 9 #22
dhill926 Sep 9 #25
dhill926 Sep 9 #19
Demovictory9 Sep 9 #23
msdogi Sep 9 #24
Auggie Sep 10 #29
ailsagirl Sep 12 #36
ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 9 #26
chia Sep 9 #27
SophieJean Sep 10 #28
Auggie Sep 10 #30
hunter Sep 11 #31
Auggie Sep 11 #32
ailsagirl Sep 11 #33
Auggie Sep 12 #34
ailsagirl Sep 12 #35

Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:33 PM

1. If I could have afforded to do it,

I would have left this country when Trump was elected.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:38 PM

5. I'm referring to California

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Response to Auggie (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:42 PM

8. I can't think of anywhere in the USA as affordable as where

I'm at now (not all of California is expensive) that isn't subject to some sort of natural disaster or severe weather.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:33 PM

2. As soon as you find Planet B, I am going...until then though, we're all FUBAR!

There is nowhere on Earth that people can mass migrate to that could A) provide for them all or B) stem the rising tides, changing winds and weather patterns or slow the devastation to anything but a full speed gallop at this point.

Besides, with our currently worthless USA visas and passports, there is no real option short of becoming full-on refugees and sailing back to Europe or Asia at this point...

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:34 PM

3. I'm a true blue Realtor in Atlanta

In box me. Its lovely here today. I left LA in 2016. I can help you help turn Georgia blue

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Response to Sedona (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:41 PM

7. Hate bugs and humidity

Georgia will experience weather extremes too

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Response to Auggie (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:43 PM

11. Try Sedona, no bugs, no humidity

my true blue daughter is a Realtor there. Turn Arizona blue.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:34 PM

4. We're moving from the Bay Area to eastern SoCal next year.

I don't think it will be much better.

I'm also pretty concerned about what the state's fiscal situation is going to bring in the future.

Just heard KGO say that the Dolan Fire (Monterey County, 95,000+ acres) was arson.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:39 PM

6. Arson!

Shit

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Response to Auggie (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:48 PM

14. Yeah.

That should be a very, very long prison sentence.

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Response to Adsos Letter (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:58 PM

16. On going earthquake activity near Ridgecrest and

China Lake area if that's where you're headed. Nothing big, but maybe a portent of things to come.

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Response to procon (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:04 PM

20. That is my greatest foreboding, statewide, at this point.

The San Andreas fault has yet to weigh in. And, hopefully, won't.

We are looking in a nice part of Redlands. We've lived in this house 30 years, and we've gotten everything just the way we like it, but the draw of the grand-babies is strong with my wife.

And if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:43 PM

9. Costa Rica is the place you oughta be.

Itís great. We moved a year ago and feel we got here just in time.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:43 PM

10. Not...

... the state, but staying away from fire areas. I like a lot of trees and stuff, but maybe not so close...

Also, it seems like other places are going to get climate change. Tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, fires...

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:02 PM

18. There's the Pacific Northwest ...

western Oregon and Washington. Earthquakes are few and far between. They're much less a concern than hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and wildfire.

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Response to Auggie (Reply #18)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:05 PM

21. Oh, I like those areas...

... but I would be so far from my SoCal friends.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:44 PM

12. I would if I lived there and if it were financially possible.

For all its beauty, I think that California is one of the first places in our country to become borderline uninhabitable.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:44 PM

13. We left San Francisco in June, and are living in the Caribbean now.


Donít miss it one bit.

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Response to secondwind (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:54 PM

15. We have friends who have lived here (NorCal) most of their lives...

...but they're moving to Jamaica next year.

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Response to secondwind (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 06:59 PM

17. I've been watching Caribbean Life on HGTV

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Reality show about Americans (mostly) who move there. Very tempting.

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Response to Auggie (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:23 PM

22. I love that show and bahamas life, island life

Mexican life..all versions of house hunters except episodes that feature typical mcmansions

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Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #22)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:38 PM

25. same here.......

were it not for Covid, we'd be living in Key West right now. We both crave warm water, and the Pacific is COLD. 2 more dem votes as well, but alas, not to be. Probably for a year or two at least...

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Response to secondwind (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:04 PM

19. mind sharing where...

been on our radar for a while...thx.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:24 PM

23. No

I love california

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 07:29 PM

24. Just had this conversation

We're 60 miles north of SF. This is the fourth year in a row of fire terror, 2017 we were evacuated for 3 weeks. Now it's high alert, go bags packed.
We all live in rural settings and so far, have been very lucky.
Climate change is having a devastating effect on many parts of the country. While previous years fire have resulted from human activity or negligence by utility companies, most of these fires are the result of lightning, and several are in areas of 80-90 percent dead trees after the long drought and voracious beetles. And a couple of them are arson, or stupidity.
All of us at socially distanced lunch today agreed there is no where else we would want to live. Everywhere has something, hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, locusts, republicans.
Most of the time it is paradise here and we intend to stay as long as we can. We have to believe we will be able to right at least part of the horrific damage we have done to our planet, and we can find a balance with nature.
Yes it is a very scary dark red outside, but that is keeping the sun from heating things up and that is helping fight the nightmare we have going on in our state right now.
Big step will be getting Democrats in charge of as much of the government as possible, starting at the top. We can do this.

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Response to msdogi (Reply #24)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 08:56 AM

29. Thanks for sharing

No one wants to panic but its impossible to know what's ahead. August lightning is not new here, but the intensity we experienced was. That's why I ask if it's time to go while the going is good -- move to parts of the U.S. where weather patterns might be more stable or predictable and before property becomes too expensive. Democrats may be able to help us prepare better for calamities and aid in faster recovery but they can't reverse climate change.

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Response to msdogi (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 12, 2020, 10:08 AM

36. Remember, the repukes insist there is no such thing as global warming

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 08:25 PM

26. thank ja my brother is up in the hills.

 

he lives in placerville, but he just completed a par-olympics training camp up in tahoe. since it is for winter sports, he can hide up there if it gets bad by him.

but i dont think it would stick around. honestly never liked cali. been there many times.
i'm very happy in chicago. not much here in the way of natural disasters. and the winter cold means we dont have poisonous snakes or giant bugs. worth the heat bills.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 10:03 PM

27. California born and raised, not going anywhere.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 01:46 AM

28. Weather extremes are not going to be isolated to California

or the west coast. We were thinking about moving from the Bay area to Mount Shasta, but now aren't sure. However, I get tired of all the California bashing I've heard over the years. This is about climate change, and no part of the world will be spared from the impact.

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Response to SophieJean (Reply #28)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 09:06 AM

30. True, though California's fire events are being exacerbated by those extremes

Impact in other parts of the U.S. may not be so severe. That's why I ask if it's time to leave while its still affordable for most of us to do so. A mass exodus from the state will affect property values in those other places.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 05:29 PM

31. My parents left, two of my siblings left, one of our children has left...

... I think my wife and I will stick around here a little longer.

Our extended family is very close, I think it has made leaving much easier for those who have left knowing they have family here in California to return to if things don't work out.

It's true that my wife and I might have had much less, um, interesting lives if we'd run off to Canada when we were young, and we could have, but we didn't.

It amuses me to drive past the remaining homes of my great grandparents and my great great grandparents in San Francisco, even though my great grandma sold them long ago. But she did not leave California.

My wife is about 25% native to the American West, so she's got roots stretching back thousands of years.

My last immigrant ancestor was a mail order bride to Salt Lake City. She didn't like sharing a husband so she caught the fancy of a monogamous guy who was passing through town and rode off with him. My great grandparents were all Wild West and San Francisco was always The City to them.

My ancestors didn't cross the Atlantic for any glorious opportunity, they left because their homelands had turned to shit.

I've always been aware the U.S.A. could turn to shit and keep good walking shoes beside my bed.



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Response to hunter (Reply #31)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 07:38 PM

32. Great story. Thanks for sharing.

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Response to Auggie (Original post)

Fri Sep 11, 2020, 11:00 PM

33. I hate to be a downer but...

Global warming affects the entire earth, so there's no running away.

Why bother?

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #33)

Sat Sep 12, 2020, 04:59 AM

34. Because extremes will vary depending on region

Given the choice, would you rather live through months of wildfire or rain? Drought or freezing temperature? We have a choice to reduce the severity of climate change based on where we choose to live, but those options will dwindle once people begin mass migration. That why I ask if itís time to go while the going is good.

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Response to Auggie (Reply #34)

Sat Sep 12, 2020, 10:06 AM

35. Thanks for clarifying

I'm feeling pretty discouraged these days-- you'll have to excuse me.

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