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I. Love. Gavin. Newsom. (Original Post) ailsagirl Oct 2020 OP
Future POTUS. dixiechiken1 Oct 2020 #1
Your reply gave me a HUGE smile ailsagirl Oct 2020 #2
It would be AWESOME! dixiechiken1 Oct 2020 #3
That's right! ailsagirl Oct 2020 #5
So proud of our Governor. TDale313 Oct 2020 #4
They surely are!!! ailsagirl Oct 2020 #6
Soooo glad we moved here from Indiana... dhill926 Oct 2020 #7
Cool!! ailsagirl Oct 2020 #8
Gracias! dhill926 Oct 2020 #9
If there is a net migration out of the state, that might just be possible. Warpy Oct 2020 #10
If we ate less beef and dairy products we could restore a lot of land... hunter Oct 2020 #11
At least alfalfa fixes nitrogen and builds the soil Warpy Oct 2020 #12

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
3. It would be AWESOME!
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 07:44 PM
Oct 2020

Been completely in love with him since he was Mayor of San Francisco. Smart, well-spoken, progressive... and eye candy to boot! What's not to love, right?

ailsagirl

(22,896 posts)
5. That's right!
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 07:50 PM
Oct 2020

He's the perfect governor for California-- he's so much on our side (remember Arno?)!!!

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. So proud of our Governor.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 07:48 PM
Oct 2020

Live in the Bay Area, so have been following him and Sen Harris for a very long time. They’re making us proud 🙂

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
10. If there is a net migration out of the state, that might just be possible.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 10:44 PM
Oct 2020

Otherwise, developers are just going to increase sprawl into dangerous fire zones. They won't rethink the architecture, either.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
11. If we ate less beef and dairy products we could restore a lot of land...
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 10:59 AM
Oct 2020

... currently used by those industries.

For example, California currently exports alfalfa to Saudi Arabia to feed cows there.

Four hours east of Los Angeles, in a drought-stricken area of a drought-afflicted state, is a small town called Blythe where alfalfa is king. More than half of the town’s 94,000 acres are bushy blue-green fields growing the crop.

Massive industrial storehouses line the southern end of town, packed with thousands upon thousands of stacks of alfalfa bales ready to be fed to dairy cows – but not cows in California’s Central Valley or Montana’s rangelands.

Instead, the alfalfa will be fed to cows in Saudi Arabia.

The storehouses belong to Fondomonte Farms, a subsidiary of the Saudi Arabia-based company Almarai – one of the largest food production companies in the world. The company sells milk, powdered milk and packaged items such as croissants, strudels and cupcakes in supermarkets and corner stores throughout the Middle East and North Africa, and in specialty grocers throughout the US.

Each month, Fondomonte Farms loads the alfalfa on to hulking metal shipping containers destined to arrive 24 days later at a massive port stationed on the Red Sea, just outside King Abdullah City in Saudi Arabia.

--more--

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/california-water-drought-scarce-saudi-arabia


Beef and dairy do have a place in land management strategies, cows grazing on green and golden hillsides, but most of the beef and dairy industry doesn't look like that. It's factory farms, cows crowded onto great mountains of shit eating silage grown with scarce water.

Huge factory slaughterhouses are some of the worst places to work, and the work is often done by undocumented workers who are frequently abused. When they can no longer do the work, or they begin to organize and complain about working conditions, they are simply replaced.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
12. At least alfalfa fixes nitrogen and builds the soil
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 12:12 PM
Oct 2020

but I see your point for a lot of areas, Costa Rica in particular has been devastated as rainforest has been cut down to provide pasturage for beef cattle and they're not alone.

Where there are farmers, there will be cash crops. A lot of farming in California might soon become unfeasible if we get many more years like this one, a heat dome lasting for months parked over the west.

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