Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:32 AM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
Gavin Newsom recall election is turning into landslide, poll shows
https://www.sfgate.com/gavin-newsom-recall/article/Newsom-recall-poll-election-California-yes-Elder-16430710.php
Breathing a little - little - easier now.
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32 replies, 2962 views
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The Mouth | Sep 2021 | OP |
lambchopp59 | Sep 2021 | #1 | |
WA-03 Democrat | Sep 2021 | #5 | |
Merlot | Sep 2021 | #13 | |
bahboo | Sep 2021 | #21 | |
xxqqqzme | Sep 2021 | #28 | |
Midnight Writer | Sep 2021 | #2 | |
East-A-Squared | Sep 2021 | #3 | |
JohnSJ | Sep 2021 | #4 | |
WA-03 Democrat | Sep 2021 | #6 | |
NCDem47 | Sep 2021 | #7 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #16 | |
JohnSJ | Sep 2021 | #25 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #17 | |
ShazamIam | Sep 2021 | #24 | |
oswaldactedalone | Sep 2021 | #8 | |
Peregrine Took | Sep 2021 | #9 | |
Merlot | Sep 2021 | #10 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #11 | |
Merlot | Sep 2021 | #12 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #15 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #26 | |
Auggie | Sep 2021 | #14 | |
SWBTATTReg | Sep 2021 | #18 | |
ShazamIam | Sep 2021 | #19 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #22 | |
Sinistrous | Sep 2021 | #20 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #23 | |
Starfury | Sep 2021 | #27 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #30 | |
ailsagirl | Sep 2021 | #29 | |
Unwind Your Mind | Sep 2021 | #31 | |
The Mouth | Sep 2021 | #32 |
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:42 AM
lambchopp59 (2,463 posts)
1. M'okey wit dat
Primarily because, frankly I was tremendously disappointed when Newsom enacted lockdown measures, turned right around to a family dinner out. There was justification for some admonition there.
Otherwise I've liked him all along. But the recall effort clowns collecting petition signatures were only spouting nonsense RWNJ conspiracy crap. |
Response to lambchopp59 (Reply #1)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:11 AM
WA-03 Democrat (2,813 posts)
5. Dinner at French Laundry
It was a mistake. I’ve eaten their a few times and had to pay for it once too which is the only negative thing. It’s not worth COVID but I think it’s the best restaurant in California. Gavin screwed up but kept this eye on the ball. All while running up a state financial surplus and keeping the people as safe as possible.
This is unpopular but I think he should run for President. He has the credentials. |
Response to lambchopp59 (Reply #1)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:58 AM
Merlot (9,361 posts)
13. To me that dinner thing was a stupid lack of judgement, but a blip
when considered against all the positive work he's' doing for the state. It was the only talking point the republicans had when they started this partisan recall.
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Response to Merlot (Reply #13)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:36 AM
bahboo (15,217 posts)
21. agree...amazing how much legs this has...
even among democratic voters.
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Response to bahboo (Reply #21)
Sun Sep 5, 2021, 10:21 AM
xxqqqzme (14,887 posts)
28. And he acknowledged it was
a dumb thing to do and apologize. WTF California? He stood up to he who shall not be named and got what California needed when government stores of PPEs were being sold to the highest bidders. His Monday morning Covid briefings were packed with information. I rarely missed one.
He was not my first choice for Governor but I'm glad we had him when the pandemic hit. Mailed my NO ballot the day after I received it. Democrats have to vote. Remind your friends and family to vote. Then remind them again |
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:53 AM
Midnight Writer (18,335 posts)
2. Perhaps folks are looking at Texas and thinking they should take this election business seriously.
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:55 AM
East-A-Squared (14,505 posts)
3. GOTV, my friends.
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:00 AM
JohnSJ (86,976 posts)
4. I won't until the recall goes down in flames. Then I will call my legislators and demand they
change our crazy recall process. Increase the number of signatures required to at least 25%, and instead of a costly new election if a recall is successful, have the LT Governor become Governor
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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:12 AM
WA-03 Democrat (2,813 posts)
6. ALL OF THE ABOVE!
Response to JohnSJ (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:35 AM
NCDem47 (1,935 posts)
7. I know TFG was all about revenge politics, but...
When Newsom comes out of this, both he and Calif. Dems need to flex their muscles right in Republicans faces. Show them who owns the state. It would be like having a double mandate.
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Response to NCDem47 (Reply #7)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:12 AM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
16. On one hand, that would be nice
on the other, we risk hubris. Just because we have a supermajority doesn't mean we can get away with anything at all.
I don't like hubris, it usually comes right before a nasty fall. |
Response to The Mouth (Reply #16)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 02:24 PM
JohnSJ (86,976 posts)
25. It isn't hubris at all. California is the odd man out on how they deal with recalls compared to
other states
We have an unusually low threshold of 11%, other states have at least 25%, and they should have the lt governor be the replacement until the next scheduled election Our recall process is abused, and it will cost us 250 million dollars, not because Newsom did something illegal, but political ideology difference, and allow a minority to replace him That is hubris |
Response to JohnSJ (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:14 AM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
17. Excellent ideas
25 percent is reasonable; if you have that much of the electorate pissed, you need at least a bit of shaking up. And having the LT Gov take over is very sensible, too.
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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #4)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:24 PM
ShazamIam (2,350 posts)
24. I agree a recall election should have at least 25% of the voters sign a petition.
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:36 AM
oswaldactedalone (3,408 posts)
8. #VoteNoCalifornia
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:20 AM
Peregrine Took (7,246 posts)
9. I wonder if the surge has been affected by the goings on in Tx? n/t
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:50 AM
Merlot (9,361 posts)
10. This post headline had me worried
Maybe: Gavin Newsom no on recall election turning into a landslide.
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Response to Merlot (Reply #10)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:53 AM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
11. I just used the original title
which is what I always do and will do
Thanks. Yeah, I was a bit worried when I saw it in the Comical, too. |
Response to The Mouth (Reply #11)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:55 AM
Merlot (9,361 posts)
12. I though as much, headline written for click bait
Response to Merlot (Reply #12)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:10 AM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
15. Oh, well
I don't change the title from any article, take it up with the SF Comical
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Response to Merlot (Reply #12)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:15 PM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
26. Using the original title makes it *much* easier
for someone to search first before posting the same damned thing again (and again and again).
This was a specific request from Earl G in Latest Breaking News and it makes more sense than worrying about someone's reaction to what they consider 'clickbait'. "Use the published title of the story as the title of the discussion thread" Regards. |
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:00 AM
Auggie (29,506 posts)
14. Meanwhile, I'm getting spammed with texts begging for money.
Saying Newsome is way behind. Is anybody else getting them?
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Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:15 AM
SWBTATTReg (19,193 posts)
18. Good! Send the damn bill for holding the recall to the damn republicans in CA. Why should ...
taxpayers pay for this unneeded mess? Only one group had any vested interest in removing a very popular governor, and their name begins w/ a big fat 'R'.
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Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:24 AM
ShazamIam (2,350 posts)
19. I think they want the Democratic voters to relax and not bother mailing that ballot in.
Response to ShazamIam (Reply #19)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:00 PM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
22. I think the SF Chronicle would enjoy having Larry Elder
I mean tRump was a godsend to newspapers everywhere; every fucking day some new, entertaining shitpile.
President Biden is boring by comparison, which means fewer eyeballs and less $$ So you might have a point. |
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:31 AM
Sinistrous (4,249 posts)
20. I think I'll wait to celebrate until the ballots are tallied.
Response to Sinistrous (Reply #20)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:00 PM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
23. Never a bad idea
Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:27 PM
Starfury (786 posts)
27. Thought exercise: If Newsome somehow loses (which I don't think will be the case)...
How many hours pass before we start the recall process vs. Elder? And include Newsom on the replacement list?
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Response to Starfury (Reply #27)
Tue Sep 7, 2021, 05:06 PM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
30. Great idea
Two can play at this game
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Response to The Mouth (Original post)
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 09:20 AM
Unwind Your Mind (1,773 posts)
31. A friend in PA asked me about local sentiment on the recall
I had to think for a minute but I think the most important part is this: most people I talk to are worried about their kids in school and Covid. They sure as hell don’t want a Governor who they know will make that situation worse. |
Response to Unwind Your Mind (Reply #31)
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 10:39 AM
The Mouth (2,781 posts)
32. That is my take, too
Newsom is not 'likeable', he was far from the best person we could have run, indeed I have a bit of sympathy for Republicans as far as liking the policies but disliking the person.
But the alternative is utter, batshit crazy. I liked Chiang and Eastin much, much better in the primary and either could have beaten Cox who was, and is, pathetic in every dimension, but Gavin is good on LGBTQ and the environment regardless of his ineptitude on the fires. Indeed it's the failure to beef up wildfire fighting enough that seems to be the biggest issue with my neighbors (such as getting rid of the 747 that dropped lifesaving fire suppression last season), but Elder would just laugh as stuff burned and cut even more. Elder would be an unmitigated disaster on Covid. The man is a fool. The ultimate solution is to go to 25% voters needed for recall and the automatic accession of the Lt Governor in the event of one succeeding. |