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Thu Nov 11, 2021, 07:48 PM

Is everyone else getting spammed by the sports betting ads to "help education," too?

I'm old enough that I remember the original ads for the Florida Lottery and how with the revenue from that education in Florida would be fully funded with no taxes needed. These new ads sound like a rehash of that tired, old, failed argument. If the Florida Lottery provided the level of money to education that had been promised, why would we need another gambling scam to "win" for Florida education now?

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Response to csziggy (Original post)

Thu Nov 11, 2021, 07:51 PM

1. Arizona here - getting spammed on Twitter and network TV

Not sure about the education part, but all sorts of sports book sites advertising the hell out of us here since football season started.

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 11, 2021, 08:05 PM

2. These ads are apparently trying to get sports betting made legal in Floirda

I'm not familiar with the gambling laws but right now I don't think it is legal except possibly at the Seminole tribe owned casinos and horse race betting at tracks - if there still are any horse racing tracks (the greyhound tracks are now all closed down). At least sports betting didn't used to be legal in Florida.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 11, 2021, 09:32 PM

3. In AZ I think it was just legalized nt

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Response to csziggy (Original post)

Thu Nov 11, 2021, 10:55 PM

4. Too many sports betting ads here in Indiana on cable.

I hate them. Most time I mute them. Other times I fast forward.

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Response to csziggy (Original post)

Sun Nov 14, 2021, 03:31 PM

5. I have seen many ads on TV about this

But so far no emails or text messages about it and texting is generally the way I receive political messages. Plenty of snail mail spam about this.

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Response to csziggy (Original post)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 09:13 AM

6. Isn't this part of the Seminole Tribes' attempt

to build more casinos by using the increase in gambling as justification for their need?

I remember the shell game of the lottery too but we're probably going to need gambling to pay for pulling out of federal OSHA and creating a "new, improved Floriduh" OSHA..

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:06 PM

7. I haven't read up on it but I would bet the Seminoles are against it

I think (but have no facts) that some sports betting may be allowed at the Seminole casinos. So if more general sports betting is allowed, they would lose revenue.

But yeah, DeSantis is really trying to trash Florida. Now they've introduced a bill to abolish the city of Key West because they are defying his anti-mandate on cruise ship regulations. They're trying to turn Florida into one of those shit holes TFG talked about.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:18 PM

8. don't leave out the change to OSHA

the legislature, in the name of jobs, jobs, jobs, wants to form its' own Occupational Safety and Health board. Kinda like the unemployment board and the workers compensation board and we know how citizen friendly they are.

One of the legislators said it was in the vein of cutting regs so business can get a head start on other states.

I'm glad I'm outa the workforce, these people want to compete with Mississippi and Arkansas..

I saw that about Key West, they haven't forced it through as yet but give Monroe County a few for tries.

whoops, just found this. TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) The Seminole Tribe ushered in a new era of gambling on Monday, quietly launching a new app that lets Floridians place bets on sports. Sports betting became legal in October under a gaming compact, which was signed by Gov.Nov 2, 2021

Now watch the tribe start the casino dance.

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:22 PM

9. Yeah, I just think of how well ducking federal regulations for the power grid worked in Texas

And worry about how ducking OSHA regulations will work for the people of Florida.

Same as you, I'm glad I am out of the workforce (though I mostly worked for myself for most of my life), but not following the established safety regulations is dangerous for everyone, not just working people.

We're fucked. Too many states are controlled by Republicans which means the voting districts are or will be gerrymandered to favor Republican candidates. We're fucked.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:24 PM

10. my friend, I agree with you

100%.

I was the same, working for myself, most of the time. Now the state has been bought and paid for by lobbyists. I editted my prev post, give it look see

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Response to onethatcares (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 18, 2021, 02:29 PM

11. Oh - that's what I had in the back of my mind - that compact with the Seminoles!

That's what made sports betting legal at the casinos - but it's still illegal anywhere else. These ads are pushing to make it legal all over the state - I wonder how hard the Seminoles will fight it?

What bother me about these sport betting ads is that they are using the same arguments that were used to set up the lottery system - that it will provide more money for education. Of course, that was not true. The money goes into the state coffers and sent where the legislature wants - which seems to be to private schools and other boondoggles.

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